Lingenfelter Performance Engineering Customers

[Aaron Pfadt]

Thanks for the kind words Don. I enjoy an intelligent conversation about cars and what makes them work. Suspension is one of the least understood disciplines in the performance arena and I am always happy to help raise the level of discourse on that subject.

I can't wait to see see the grin on your face when you first drive the car with a fully done suspension system. It is the perfect match to some big HP. I'm going to have to talk to Kevin again and get him on board with some Pfadt suspension on all of these monster power cars he is putting together.

-Aaron

[mws444]

Originally Posted by Windy City

To all my LPE Brothers and Sisters here, and the one's who I have spoke with via phone that are confirmed lurkers, I have some good information on design, engineering, installation, and documentation on suspension improvement coming your way.

After several months of researching suspension modifications, doing engineering research, and speaking with some local auto aficionado friends of mine, I have established a stance on suspension modifications for my Lingenfelter Performance Engineering "transformed" Camaro.

Through a personal recommendation from a local acquaintance, who I hold in the highest regard, I made contact with Aaron Pfadt of Pfadt Race Engineering http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/51 today and had one of the most enjoyable and enlightening conversations yet regarding the 2010 Camaro.

After a good deal of interesting physics banter and light discussion of suspension engineering, I placed an order for there coil overs, sway bars, poly bushing kit, and camber plates.
Their sway bars were a no brainer from there inception but the thing that has me most intrigued is their camber plates and bushing set.
These 2 items deserve a whole post on there own.

In the not too far future we will have a carbon fiber drive shaft option, that Vette owners have now, and will be another exciting product.

I will post photos and info as I install these products and invite inquires via PM for anyone who has questions prior.

I really like the drive shaft and bushings. What do you like about the coil overs vs. pedders? They seem very close, but the click factor on the pedders appears to make adjustments a lot easier.
Look forward to your insight.

[mws444]

Also doing a little homework on the Phadt boys, they do nice work, lots of good stuff on them. Main problem with pedders is the stocking issue...they never have anything.

[mws444]

Originally Posted by Aaron Pfadt

Thanks for the kind words Don. I enjoy an intelligent conversation about cars and what makes them work. Suspension is one of the least understood disciplines in the performance arena and I am always happy to help raise the level of discourse on that subject.

I can't wait to see see the grin on your face when you first drive the car with a fully done suspension system. It is the perfect match to some big HP. I'm going to have to talk to Kevin again and get him on board with some Pfadt suspension on all of these monster power cars he is putting together.

-Aaron

Nice of you to drop in Aaron, with LPE power we need some susp. help.
What is your take on the rest of the bushings in the Camaro? Do they all need replacing like some suggest?

[Windy City]

Originally Posted by mws444

I really like the drive shaft and bushings. What do you like about the coil overs vs. pedders? They seem very close, but the click factor on the pedders appears to make adjustments a lot easier.
Look forward to your insight.

How's the pecans doing? I thought of you as I had pecan pie during, around, and after Thanksgiving!

Well I haven't tried adjusting their stuff and so I can't speak of other suspension companies products. I know that Speed has some Peders products and I expect him to chime in from time to time with his experiences. Speed has a few miles on his so this is good for attrition reporting.

So far I have based my choice on knowledge and advertising information.
The internet has a plethora of information, some bad, some good. But I have done a lot of local networking and that has helped me immensely.

One great thing about this city I live in is it's cultural and information resources. (there is a lot of people here!)

There is nothing I love more than intelligent conversation with people knowledgeable in their discipline and I was pleased with the one I had today!

I will report judiciously what I experience as I have in the past!
I have enough miles on my car, with the stock suspension, so a direct comparison will be affirmed.

Hey MWS, all this horsepower ROCKS, don't it?

[2010 BADSS]

Originally Posted by mws444

Looking good 2010!!!!!!
Time just crawls when your car is up there, looks like they are really speeding things up. Tell RS he has to play nice while yours is being transformed.
We got two inches last night here, 5 total for the year.

MWS, Thanks, and if anyone is looking to buy the highest quality pecans, I can highly recommend MWS's business. Compared to what I normally buy at the store for $8-$12 a pound, his are so much better and comparably priced!!! Hey, quit scaring off all the potential local racers.


Abbey, if you're anything like me, your signature might just keep growing and growing!



Windy, thanks for the suspension info and research, RS and I are definitely having fun right now, but JUST WAIT

[mws444]

Originally Posted by 2010 BADSS

MWS, Thanks, and if anyone is looking to buy the highest quality pecans, I can highly recommend MWS's business. Compared to what I normally buy at the store for $8-$12 a pound, his are so much better and comparably priced!!! Hey, quit scaring off all the potential local racers.

Thanks 2010, this time of the year is when the Mrs goes crazy. She handles the gift pack side of things. It is probably the best part of the business, as we get to deal with so many people. It would be nice if it made a profit but the advertising costs are so high, it has built up to 7 figures in sales but is still in the red. The bread winner is the wholesale side that makes up the other 98%. Truth is if you buy about any commercial product with pecans you have probably eaten ours before.

Ford drivers out here are just like the old school bully, when someone stands up to challenge them they just fold up. Go figure, I like to race even if I dont win, just signals the need for more mods and another go.

[Windy City]

Originally Posted by mws444

Thanks 2010, this time of the year is when the Mrs goes crazy. She handles the gift pack side of things. It is probably the best part of the business, as we get to deal with so many people. It would be nice if it made a profit but the advertising costs are so high, it has built up to 7 figures in sales but is still in the red. The bread winner is the wholesale side that makes up the other 98%. Truth is if you buy about any commercial product with pecans you have probably eaten ours before.

Ford drivers out here are just like the old school bully, when someone stands up to challenge them they just fold up. Go figure, I like to race even if I dont win, just signals the need for more mods and another go.

If you have a site, PM me the info! I'd like to order some!

Stang drivers are whoosies!

[CRUSHER2SS]

Originally Posted by Windy City

To all my LPE Brothers and Sisters here, and the one's who I have spoke with via phone that are confirmed lurkers, I have some good information on design, engineering, installation, and documentation on suspension improvement coming your way.

After several months of researching suspension modifications, doing engineering research, and speaking with some local auto aficionado friends of mine, I have established a stance on suspension modifications for my Lingenfelter Performance Engineering "transformed" Camaro.

Through a personal recommendation from a local acquaintance, who I hold in the highest regard, I made contact with Aaron Pfadt of Pfadt Race Engineering http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/51 today and had one of the most enjoyable and enlightening conversations yet regarding the 2010 Camaro.

After a good deal of interesting physics banter and light discussion of suspension engineering, I placed an order for there coil overs, sway bars, poly bushing kit, and camber plates.
Their sway bars were a no brainer from there inception but the thing that has me most intrigued is their camber plates and bushing set.
These 2 items deserve a whole post on there own.

In the not too far future we will have a carbon fiber drive shaft option, that Vette owners have now, and will be another exciting product.

I will post photos and info as I install these products and invite inquires via PM for anyone who has questions prior.

Windy,

I'm am very glad to know you have done all your homework and not bought in to all the hype. You have made all your choices through thorough research LPE etc.........and now Pfadt. No hype no bull just proven results.

I have been running the Pfadt Sway and Balance bars front and rear, Poly bushings and the drop springs, the amazing Camber plates and the Engine mounts for a while now, ready to get the coil overs,(Merry Christmas) and all I can say is that Pfadt Race Engineering has their stuff together. Aaron, Josh, Rob, Robbin and the rest of entire Pfadt Racing Team are truly committed to providing the absolutely best products for the 2010 Camaro and the Corvette. I have absolutely no complaints with any of their products, they have an amazing setup and have been amazing to deal with.

You won't go wrong with Pfadt. They put their money where their mouth is, no hype no bull just engineered to the extreme, track tested and DD proven results. I have been to the track, and the drags several times with these suspension mods and the car is like a freight train on rails, no body roll, no hop, no swaying or squeaking!!! Just all the rubber to the road. With the engine mounts there is no movement at all, I can guarantee all the power is being transferred back and not lost, like in the factory mounts.

I am in the process of getting my supercharger project started this winter and can't wait to put the suspension mods to the Extreme test with over 500 RWHP.

Currently: ADM CAI, Kooks LT, Vector Tuned and Pfadt Suspension. Racing brake, front and rear rotors on order. Maggie will be installed within the next 30 days.

As with all my mods to the car, I have thoroughly researched each and every choice. You made a great choice! Pfadt will prove to be the winner.

[Speed74SS]

Originally Posted by Windy City

How's the pecans doing? I thought of you as I had pecan pie during, around, and after Thanksgiving!

Well I haven't tried adjusting their stuff and so I can't speak of other suspension companies products. I know that Speed has some Peders products and I expect him to chime in from time to time with his experiences. Speed has a few miles on his so this is good for attrition reporting.

So far I have based my choice on knowledge and advertising information.
The internet has a plethora of information, some bad, some good. But I have done a lot of local networking and that has helped me immensely.

One great thing about this city I live in is it's cultural and information resources. (there is a lot of people here!)

There is nothing I love more than intelligent conversation with people knowledgeable in their discipline and I was pleased with the one I had today!

I will report judiciously what I experience as I have in the past!
I have enough miles on my car, with the stock suspension, so a direct comparison will be affirmed.

Hey MWS, all this horsepower ROCKS, don't it?

Windy - I am sure you made a good choice with going with the Pfadt suspension. There needs to be a variety of equipment choices and thats what makes the game of modding so much fun. It sounds like you have done your homework and will be pleased with the results. I can only speak for how happy I have been with the Pedder's products. So far I have only had the Xtreme Coilovers installed from day one and I have been very impressed with how much it feels better over stock and the look of course. In the next month or so, I will have the rest of the bushings replaced, front and rear sway bars replaced and wheels and tires done, so I will give you a report on how everything turns out. I know 570 has the Pedders Extreme Track package and will be a good reference as to how the bushings and everything else turned out. I have a lot of respect for Pfadt and their products and I also have been very happy with Pedders and their help in setting up my car. Definatley on top of their game!!

[Windy City]

Originally Posted by CRUSHER2SS

As with all my mods to the car, I have thoroughly researched each and every choice. You made a great choice! Pfadt will prove to be the winner.

HooRah! Thanks for the good word Crusher! I am looking forward to comparing stock apples to Pfadt apples!
I have gotten a lot of positive reinforcement from other past customers like yourself.
I wish you all the luck with your car! Hopefully I get to meet some Camaro Brethren at the track some day soon!

By the way, the sig is great!

Originally Posted by Speed74SS

Windy - I am sure you made a good choice with going with the Pfadt suspension. There needs to be a variety of equipment choices and thats what makes the game of modding so much fun. It sounds like you have done your homework and will be pleased with the results. I can only speak for how happy I have been with the Pedder's products. So far I have only had the Xtreme Coilovers installed from day one and I have been very impressed with how much it feels better over stock and the look of course. In the next month or so, I will have the rest of the bushings replaced, front and rear sway bars replaced and wheels and tires done, so I will give you a report on how everything turns out. I know 570 has the Pedders Extreme Track package and will be a good reference as to how the bushings and everything else turned out. I have a lot of respect for Pfadt and their products and I also have been very happy with Pedders and their help in setting up my car. Definatley on top of their game!!

I knew I could count on Brother Speed to give up his experience! Speed ROCKS, he was and always will be #1 with his LPE transformation!
Been able to drive your monster in between messing up all them roosters?
The guys I deer hunt with, who had trouble hitten em 2 weeks ago (call em Mrs.) are out trying it again this weekend.

[Aaron Pfadt]

Originally Posted by mws444

I really like the drive shaft and bushings. What do you like about the coil overs vs. pedders? They seem very close, but the click factor on the pedders appears to make adjustments a lot easier.
Look forward to your insight.

Because we have not officially launched our coilovers yet, there is not a tremendous amout of details out there on them. I'll try to fill in a few of the high points of what is coming. Those of you who made it to SEMA could see the package, but that has been the only real public showing.

The main features of our Pfadt Coilovers:

• Inverted monotube design in on the front strut. This provides that really large shaft section that you see with our front coilover. That is important because the front strut takes cornering loads in these cars and the stiffer the tube, the better. This has the effect of placing the adjuster knob on the bottom of the strut for easy access. It is a click style adjuster with 20 clicks that are very positive and easy to feel. It is a simple matter of reaching around the front tire and making a couple of twists to change your damping.
  
• Inverted body design on the rear damper. This reduces unsprung mass (a good thing) and also places the adjuster at the bottom of the damper where you can reach it. It is also a click style adjuster wrapped around the shaft section just below the spring perch.
  
• Our dampers in both the front and rear feature single point adjust-ability which controls both compression and rebound damping together. This is a design that we have found to be very flexible and user friendly in our Corvette offerings. Basically, you do not need to be a damper engineer to be comfortable making adjustments and it is easy to switch from a 'street' setup to a 'track' setup with just a few clicks.
  
• Our damper are mono-tube design and feature a separate internal gas chamber, which in the industry is referred to as 'non-emulsion' design. Mono-tube non-emulsion shocks are what you find on most every production based race car everywhere. It is the best design and provides the most consistent and reliable operation. Many of the other offerings for the Camaro are not, ask the manufacturer if you are curious.
  
• The final feature about our coilovers that I will share today is that our coilovers take a 'standard' flat ground race spring. Many other use a custom spring to fit the Camaro specifically. Using a standard spring size allows extreme flexibility in spring rate choice. You can call up any race supplier and order springs in 25 lb/in increments that will work on our coilovers. We provide a set with our coilovers that will work well for most people, but the flexibility is there for those who want it.

I've gotta run, but I'll get back to the bushing question in another post later.

-Aaron

[mws444]

Originally Posted by Windy City

How's the pecans doing? I thought of you as I had pecan pie during, around, and after Thanksgiving!

Well I haven't tried adjusting their stuff and so I can't speak of other suspension companies products. I know that Speed has some Peders products and I expect him to chime in from time to time with his experiences. Speed has a few miles on his so this is good for attrition reporting.

So far I have based my choice on knowledge and advertising information.
The internet has a plethora of information, some bad, some good. But I have done a lot of local networking and that has helped me immensely.

One great thing about this city I live in is it's cultural and information resources. (there is a lot of people here!)

There is nothing I love more than intelligent conversation with people knowledgeable in their discipline and I was pleased with the one I had today!

I will report judiciously what I experience as I have in the past!
I have enough miles on my car, with the stock suspension, so a direct comparison will be affirmed.

Hey MWS, all this horsepower ROCKS, don't it?

HMMM.... Guess that would make me the nutty brother.
Really look forward to your evaluation, as I am sure it will be complete and comprehensive.
Horsepower has turned me into a "power junkie"...permagrin abounds.

Speaking of Junkie where has he been?

[mws444]

Originally Posted by Aaron Pfadt

Because we have not officially launched our coilovers yet, there is not a tremendous amout of details out there on them. I'll try to fill in a few of the high points of what is coming. Those of you who made it to SEMA could see the package, but that has been the only real public showing.

The main features of our Pfadt Coilovers:

• Inverted monotube design in on the front strut. This provides that really large shaft section that you see with our front coilover. That is important because the front strut takes cornering loads in these cars and the stiffer the tube, the better. This has the effect of placing the adjuster knob on the bottom of the strut for easy access. It is a click style adjuster with 20 clicks that are very positive and easy to feel. It is a simple matter of reaching around the front tire and making a couple of twists to change your damping.
  
• Inverted body design on the rear damper. This reduces unsprung mass (a good thing) and also places the adjuster at the bottom of the damper where you can reach it. It is also a click style adjuster wrapped around the shaft section just below the spring perch.
  
• Our dampers in both the front and rear feature single point adjust-ability which controls both compression and rebound damping together. This is a design that we have found to be very flexible and user friendly in our Corvette offerings. Basically, you do not need to be a damper engineer to be comfortable making adjustments and it is easy to switch from a 'street' setup to a 'track' setup with just a few clicks.
  
• Our damper are mono-tube design and feature a separate internal gas chamber, which in the industry is referred to as 'non-emulsion' design. Mono-tube non-emulsion shocks are what you find on most every production based race car everywhere. It is the best design and provides the most consistent and reliable operation. Many of the other offerings for the Camaro are not, ask the manufacturer if you are curious.
  
• The final feature about our coilovers that I will share today is that our coilovers take a 'standard' flat ground race spring. Many other use a custom spring to fit the Camaro specifically. Using a standard spring size allows extreme flexibility in spring rate choice. You can call up any race supplier and order springs in 25 lb/in increments that will work on our coilovers. We provide a set with our coilovers that will work well for most people, but the flexibility is there for those who want it.

I've gotta run, but I'll get back to the bushing question in another post later.

-Aaron

This is what I love about this board I learn everytime I login. I am most certainly lacking in the suspension department, look forward to your next installment!