Camaro Falling Apart?????

[DkknightX]

Originally Posted by Paul SS

"I do believe the SHO does proves that companies can build cars out of the box that don't have problems."

Do you think there isnt an SHO or two out there some where that are less than perfect?
THAT would be a miracle. Too many blanket statements here for me. If you have one or ten issues, go get them fixed or live with them. That's what warranties are for, and don't take no for an answer. Sometimes they just want you to go away and some people will accept that and not persue it. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and gets fixed.

Myothercarisafireengine -- Persistence is also key. Paul is absoutely right about "keeping on them." Be annoying, as much of a time waster as it might seem. This approach also works if you submit a resume and want updates on it to find out what is happening with it. It shows you are interested and are eager to work.

[coolman]

Originally Posted by riverbadboy

don't feel too bad. my heater core blew up and covered the two front seats and console carpet and all. the heater core got fixed and multiple parts got broken by the tech. ...AND TODAY i got a call from gm rep telling me most of my problems seem to be with the dealer not GM. ..NOT GM??? how the H..L not GM? my car smells of coolant and they say thats as far as they go with the repair. i'm so sad i might drive it to the grand canyon south rim??

That sucks, That coolant smell is almost impossible to get rid of.

[trixienurse]

Originally Posted by Myothercarisafireengine

I know, but are they going to repaint my entire car..it is so bad. I have owned many cars and have not felt this "had" over a car.

I am always adding air to my tires!!

[greenrail]

Originally Posted by Nostromo

An engineer friend of mine had a factory-fresh '89 Bonneville SSE receive roof damage while in transit via train. They wanted him to take the car after a new roof, sunroof, headliner, etc had been 'installed'. He declined but you just know that some hapless f*cker ended up with that Bonneville. They were hot cars in their day.

I gotta say this doesn't hold true anymore. I work for one of the carriers that serves several Manufacturers. And when we have any vehicle damaged where a structural or welded part is damaged (not light repairable paint scratches) but bent, dented, weld separation, gouged, or similar damages, the vehicle is scrapped.

I know my company has bought several of those vehicles and shredded them so none of the parts reach the street.

Wasn't in that side of the business back in '89.

[Myothercarisafireengine]

Originally Posted by trixienurse

I am always adding air to my tires!!

Try adding nitrogen..it fixed my problem..it costs about 40 bucks but fixed it!

[nasty2ss]

Originally Posted by DkknightX

The technology changes in every new model. Placement of parts and other things. BMW's and Mercedes have these problems with 1st year model cars too, so what is your deal? We're not here to be your friend, we are here to listen to what you have to say and respond objectively to it. Not to judge you.

Owned a 88 gran prix 98 gran prix 2002 silveraldo all junk. after the truck bought a Toyota and never had another problem

[Myothercarisafireengine]

Originally Posted by riverbadboy

don't feel too bad. my heater core blew up and covered the two front seats and console carpet and all. the heater core got fixed and multiple parts got broken by the tech. ...AND TODAY i got a call from gm rep telling me most of my problems seem to be with the dealer not GM. ..NOT GM??? how the H..L not GM? my car smells of coolant and they say thats as far as they go with the repair. i'm so sad i might drive it to the grand canyon south rim??

Wow...I am sorry..:(

[coolman]

Originally Posted by nasty2ss

Owned a 88 gran prix 98 gran prix 2002 silveraldo all junk. after the truck bought a Toyota and never had another problem

Yea the frames just rust out on that crap. good luck.

[Nostromo]

Originally Posted by greenrail

I gotta say this doesn't hold true anymore. I work for one of the carriers that serves several Manufacturers. And when we have any vehicle damaged where a structural or welded part is damaged (not light repairable paint scratches) but bent, dented, weld separation, gouged, or similar damages, the vehicle is scrapped.

I know my company has bought several of those vehicles and shredded them so none of the parts reach the street.

Wasn't in that side of the business back in '89.

I can't even vouch for what happened to the vehicle after my friend had refused it. That part of my post was speculative. I know that 'they', our GM overlords circa 1989, were on him for about 2 weeks to sign for the car after it would have been repaired. When I was involved with GMSPO (service parts operations) any damaged item which was destined to be scrapped had to be rendered completely unusable/unsaleable. I smacked a Lexan roof panel for a '95 Corvette with a sledgehammer several times just to be certain. Ouch.

[nasty2ss]

Originally Posted by coolman

Yea the frames just rust out on that crap. good luck.

Ya right 150,000 miles and no problems if the frame rusted out today I got my moneys worth my GM cars wouldn't run long enough for the frame to rot out

[SSE 4 2SS]

Originally Posted by Myothercarisafireengine

My tires were also not holding air, so I paid to put nitrogen in them and it seemed to do the trick..not sure how or why?

Nitrogen is filtered from air as in the air we breathe, or the air from a compressor. A pure nitrogen molecule is quite large, relative to the other molecules that make up the air around us. Oxygen for example. When tires have a slow leak, they will generally leak down the molecules other than nitrogen first. The nitrogen molecules being substantially larger take a much longer time to leak out.

[coolman]

Originally Posted by nasty2ss

Ya right 150,000 miles and no problems if the frame rusted out today I got my moneys worth my GM cars wouldn't run long enough for the frame to rot out

That's nothing I got two chevy work trucks the have over 400,000 miles on the origanal drive train and they go to the job site everyday. I thought you were talking about a new toyota. My buddy got a new one after a year because the frame rusted out and now I see their having the same problem in the tundra. I also don't like the random acceleration option they put in their cars and trucks.

[kga10734]

So far I have only had one issue and had to take the Camaro back to the dealership. Luckily I did before the right rear window fell out. It is held in place with 3 clips but didn't have a drop of sealant/ glue around it. Here is the link and my problem was fixed.

For those that work in the plant, is this area done by the robot or humans?

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...58#post1281058

[Lauryn200]

Originally Posted by Myothercarisafireengine

Coolman,
First of all..I was coming on here for help NOT harrassment..and it wasnt ZERO, it was under 10..I meant zero as in it came straight from the factory. I have every right to have my opinion about GM..they sold me a bad car and I am tired of going to the dealer every other week.
For the record, my car does have every single problem listed. EVERY one of them! I even wrote verbatim what was on my warranty invoices..sorry you feel I am fishy and last but not least..I AM NOT A HE!

You paid/paying good money for that car.
Minor problems are to expected but sounds like it has major issues.

Some of these responses are like the one's on the Jeep site,when the JK first came out.There were (Still are) issues like leaking tops on a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon that cost around $35,000 ....response was.."It's A Jeep Thing..get over it."

WTF????