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JANNETTYRACING · 12-17-2009, 10:00 AM

Our Street brawler package on an L99 Makes 505 RWHP, with the addition of Methanol injection we were safely able to add a smaller pulley and more timing to achieve 545 RWHP.

Methanol is an Octane and fuel adder, and can help safely achieve greater power levels on pump fuel.

We can use this thread as a discussion forum on Methanol so if you have any questions about is and how it works post them here.

Ted.

jeffny09 · 12-17-2009, 02:36 PM

how does it help with more power? ive heard of people using methanol-but would it help a car if i didnt do any engine work to it?

chappy48 · 12-17-2009, 02:47 PM

Ted, is methanol recommended for anything less then the 3.8 pulley. I guess I'm trying to figure out how low I can go without the methanol

caverman · 12-17-2009, 03:04 PM

Wow 40 rwhp!

How often would the Methanol need to be filled up? Where would you go to fill it up? About how much does something like this cost?

JANNETTYRACING · 12-17-2009, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chappy48

Ted, is methanol recommended for anything less then the 3.8 pulley. I guess I'm trying to figure out how low I can go without the methanol

You have a 3.6 now, this one has a 3.4 and Yes Methanol is recommended for a 3.4 as we could not get good power without detonation without it.

Ted.

chappy48 · 12-17-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

You have a 3.6 now, this one has a 3.4 and Yes Methanol is recommended for a 3.4 as we could not get good power without detonation without it.

Ted.

Thanks Ted. So like previously asked, how long does Methanol last and what's the danger if it runs out? I'm guessing you can only get this stuff at a tuner shop.

JANNETTYRACING · 12-17-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chappy48

Thanks Ted. So like previously asked, how long does Methanol last and what's the danger if it runs out? I'm guessing you can only get this stuff at a tuner shop.

Meth is Pretty easy to find, you can also use Washer fluid and Heet mixed, and substiuted Isopropyl in a pinch.

If you stay out of boost it will last for ever, the tank holds 1.5 gallons and we only used a quart in 10 pulls.

Ted.

SRT10KLLR · 12-17-2009, 07:33 PM

I have methanol injection on the turbocharged Hemi. It only comes on past 7 lbs of boost(or whatever you set it to). It is about 120 octane and will last forever if you never go past your on boost level. Because it is on a turbo setup it is wired to not allow you to go into high(7+, 15 in my case) boost if you are empty. It is wired to the dual stage boost controller as a safety margin although it may be ok to go past 7 lbs without it.

Since it is high octane it allows you to add more boost without detonation and/or add more timing to your current boost level. It will also work in NA applications by allowing you to add more timing also.

It also helps cool the intake air charge depending on your water/meth ratio. More water = more cooling whereas more meth = more octane. I was at a 50/50 mix but will be going to a 70/30(meth/water) mix.

Mike TexaSS · 12-17-2009, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

You have a 3.6 now, this one has a 3.4 and Yes Methanol is recommended for a 3.4 as we could not get good power without detonation without it.

Ted.

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garagelogic · 12-18-2009, 01:40 AM

Have you checked with MagnaCharger on whether it is a good idea or not to spray meth into their blower? I know some blower rotors are coated and the methanol can quickly eat away at the lining and fubar your high-dollar blower. If so, it would not be covered under any warranty offered by the supercharger manufacturer.

Mzodarg · 12-18-2009, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Yes Methanol is recommended for a 3.4

Ted,
BY who? The manufacture or the you the builder? I am in the process of getting the funds together for the force feed, interested in this concept.
I just sent Simmon Gale at Magnuson an e-mail, will share his thoughts if he reply's.

Thanks,
Mike

Revo1 · 12-18-2009, 05:40 AM

Holy cow, meth+maggie?

Scary combo ...for Mustangs

boostedyards86 · 12-18-2009, 06:15 AM

i run the aem methanol kit on my camaro...with a 3.6" pulley we put down 580whp seeing only 6psi with my setup. Pretty good imo. I have always been a firm believer in methanol with superchargers. However I would have to disagree on the more water = more cooling idea...ever spill methanol on ur skin by accident...cold huh? Save your time and money and spray 100% methanol. just becareful of rising egt's. since its a higher octane you can run leaner with more timing....but methanol has a much richer stoich ratio which means you will actually be running chemically leaner than what your wideband may be reading. And this in turn can cause high egt's. AND NEVER LET IT RUN OUT.

*CamaroSpike23* · 12-18-2009, 07:00 AM

Ted, are you guys going to make a different mounting setup for the resevoir? Not that I dont think the bungie straps wont hold it, but I think it could be a cleaner mounting setup.

I'll be watching this thread for sure!

12-17-2009, 10:00 AM	#1
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,427	Pics of our Coolingmist Methanol system install on street brawler package Our Street brawler package on an L99 Makes 505 RWHP, with the addition of Methanol injection we were safely able to add a smaller pulley and more timing to achieve 545 RWHP. Methanol is an Octane and fuel adder, and can help safely achieve greater power levels on pump fuel. We can use this thread as a discussion forum on Methanol so if you have any questions about is and how it works post them here. Ted. Attached Images __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 39 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com

12-17-2009, 02:36 PM	#2
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12-17-2009, 02:47 PM	#3
chappy48 Drives: 2010 Camaro Auto 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 878	Ted, is methanol recommended for anything less then the 3.8 pulley. I guess I'm trying to figure out how low I can go without the methanol __________________ Built by Jannetty Racing 670rwhp/649rwtq...Scariness to be determined. Jannety Racing forged 416. TVS2300 Supercharger w/Maggie Max Stage 2, 3.6 Pulley, Innovators West 8 rib conversion, OD rear Cog belt drive. Jannetty Racing Rough Idle Cam, LS3 Conversion. Jannetty Racing built 6l80e Trans, Jannetty Racing Custom Converter, Built rear diff w/ 3.45 gears, DSS driveshaft and 1400 hp axles. ADM Twin Pump Fuel System, ADM CAI, Dynatech 1 7/8" Coated Headers, Borla "S" Catback. Custom 18" Forgestar F14's, Nitto 305/45-18 DR's

12-17-2009, 03:04 PM	#4
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	Wow 40 rwhp! How often would the Methanol need to be filled up? Where would you go to fill it up? About how much does something like this cost? __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

12-17-2009, 07:33 PM	#8
SRT10KLLR Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Down South Posts: 1,497	I have methanol injection on the turbocharged Hemi. It only comes on past 7 lbs of boost(or whatever you set it to). It is about 120 octane and will last forever if you never go past your on boost level. Because it is on a turbo setup it is wired to not allow you to go into high(7+, 15 in my case) boost if you are empty. It is wired to the dual stage boost controller as a safety margin although it may be ok to go past 7 lbs without it. Since it is high octane it allows you to add more boost without detonation and/or add more timing to your current boost level. It will also work in NA applications by allowing you to add more timing also. It also helps cool the intake air charge depending on your water/meth ratio. More water = more cooling whereas more meth = more octane. I was at a 50/50 mix but will be going to a 70/30(meth/water) mix. __________________ 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 RCSB Thunder Road Hemi Sport w/STS Turbo 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10 - Silver - Stock 2003 Chevy 1500 RCSB Stepside 400SS - 408 in now awaiting Turbo

12-18-2009, 01:40 AM	#10
garagelogic Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Shelby GT500 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,686 View My Garage	Have you checked with MagnaCharger on whether it is a good idea or not to spray meth into their blower? I know some blower rotors are coated and the methanol can quickly eat away at the lining and fubar your high-dollar blower. If so, it would not be covered under any warranty offered by the supercharger manufacturer.

12-18-2009, 05:40 AM	#12
Revo1 Don't Like it? Suggit. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 14,832 View My Garage	Holy cow, meth+maggie? Scary combo ...for Mustangs __________________ "Tops off, tach up baby- loud and proud!" A Camaro lover from day one- 1996 3.8 V6 Camaro, to 1996 5.7 LT1 Camaro Z28, to the sold 2002 5.7 LS1 Camaro SS, and NOW, a [I]6.2 L99 VR 2SS/RS: XS Power stainless full exhaust, Airaid CAI, BMR drop springs and sways, custom tune by Cal Speed- 411rwhp

12-18-2009, 06:15 AM	#13
boostedyards86 Drives: Cummins 3500 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pgh PA Posts: 611 View My Garage	i run the aem methanol kit on my camaro...with a 3.6" pulley we put down 580whp seeing only 6psi with my setup. Pretty good imo. I have always been a firm believer in methanol with superchargers. However I would have to disagree on the more water = more cooling idea...ever spill methanol on ur skin by accident...cold huh? Save your time and money and spray 100% methanol. just becareful of rising egt's. since its a higher octane you can run leaner with more timing....but methanol has a much richer stoich ratio which means you will actually be running chemically leaner than what your wideband may be reading. And this in turn can cause high egt's. AND NEVER LET IT RUN OUT. __________________ 85 Buick TType - 5.3l GT4202r 10.86 at 126

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