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1320junkie · 12-18-2009, 03:47 PM

Welcome to the forum and...

ssump29 · 12-18-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320junkie

Welcome to the forum and...

mjf6866 · 12-18-2009, 03:59 PM

fdjizm · 12-18-2009, 04:00 PM

I like how some people have already decided that the engine is maxxed out and bolt on's are worthless LOL

Dakota Kid · 12-18-2009, 04:04 PM

As someone who is NOT brand loyal, just a muscle car enthusiast, I think this is great news for all of us. I will be sure to test drive one in the spring, and if I like it then hell it will be parked next to my wife to be's 2010 SS. We love the Camaro, and have no regrets. It is gorgeous, fast and fun to drive.

Bring it on, Ford!

ironpeddler · 12-18-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fdjizm

I like how some people have already decided that the engine is maxxed out and bolt on's are worthless LOL

lol, I know right. Comes with the territory I guess.

kevin2323 · 12-18-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zweb620

I could care lees...Yeah Yeah Mustang is upgrading.....Finally!!!!!But let's face it when there GT comes out our SS will ened end getting something done to make it better for the 2011 model.....or the alll mighty Z28 will dominate all that stand in it's way!!!!Nice try FORD....Better luck next time!

SamSS · 12-18-2009, 04:41 PM

What about the 2011 Mustang's design? Is it gonna look like the 2010 Mustangs?

porcupinekiller · 12-18-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BrandX

I firmly believe without the Camaro in the mix (especially kicking the Mustangs ass in sales), this new engine would have never made it into the Mustang.

I wouldn't say that statement is entirely accurate. The Mustang has lost more sales to BMW's sports coupes than Camaro's. I've heard that Ford is poised to take on BMW sports coupes when the redesigned 2014 Mustangs are released as a slightly smaller more nimble coupe.

(I know I'm hearing uncontrollable laughter...). Time will tell.
The Camaro and Mustang are both iconic cars. Each have there strengths and weaknesses and we're lucky to have a choice. Long live the new HP wars!!!

Black5thgen · 12-18-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fdjizm

I like how some people have already decided that the engine is maxxed out and bolt on's are worthless LOL

I like how some people have already decided this car will not weigh a pound more and will be far superior to an SS, LOL.

*DGthe3* · 12-18-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fdjizm

I like how some people have already decided that the engine is maxxed out and bolt on's are worthless LOL

Its a hell of a lot easier to get an extra 10% more power when you start with ~69 hp/L (current 4.6L or LS3) than it is when you're at 82 hp/L (new 5.0L), so long as both are naturally aspirated. Thats just how it works. Are there gains to be made? Sure, just not as much. Modifications are not magic. Every engine obeys the same laws of physics and has certain limits. The closer you are to those limits when you start, the less bang for your buck you get when you try to improve it.

ULTRAZLS1 · 12-18-2009, 05:18 PM

Should be solid. Im excited.

I would honestly be very tempted to buy one if it wasnt a mod motor. And also from reading about the motor not even needing headers and other details makes it sound rather maxed out from the factory. Now im sure it will still respond well to mods but not nearly like an ls3.

I cant wait for the first head to head test.

I wonder if the 2011 camaro will at least get some gears. It is going to need it.

SWAT...the main point of my last post was simply that a lot of you mustang guys dont think much of the half second and 6mph average trap speed advantage a stock camaro has over a stock mustang currently. So basically I am preparing myself for if and when the mustang edges out the camaro by a tenth or so in the quarter. I dont want to hear any bragging...lol.

Ne wayz...got to give credit where credit is due. looks impressive.

porcupinekiller · 12-18-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Its a hell of a lot easier to get an extra 10% more power when you start with ~69 hp/L (current 4.6L or LS3) than it is when you're at 82 hp/L (new 5.0L), so long as both are naturally aspirated. Thats just how it works. Are there gains to be made? Sure, just not as much. Modifications are not magic. Every engine obeys the same laws of physics and has certain limits. The closer you are to those limits when you start, the less bang for your buck you get when you try to improve it.

+1 on that!!
That's why a N/A LS3 will always make bigger #'s than a N/A 4.6 (or 5.0). There is no replacement for displacement!! That also why so many 4.6 owners went F/I, it's the only real way to get decent power out of a smaller engine and still have it driveable. The larger LS motors have had and will continue to have a HP/Torque advantage over the smaller Ford motors. The only way for Ford to close the gap is to put their motors into lighter cars.

porcupinekiller · 12-18-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by zweb620

I could care lees...Yeah Yeah Mustang is upgrading.....Finally!!!!!But let's face it when there GT comes out our SS will ened end getting something done to make it better for the 2011 model.....or the alll mighty Z28 will dominate all that stand in it's way!!!!Nice try FORD....Better luck next time!

Z28?!?! What...am I missing something. Do you know something that nobody else does?

View Poll Results: What is your opinion of the Mustang?
Hate it. Plain and simple.	11	7.19%
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Its cool, but its not a Camaro.	90	58.82%
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12-18-2009, 03:59 PM	#3629
mjf6866 Drives: 09 Challenger R/T 6-speed 3.92 rear Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: sitting on an angry chair with angry walls that steal the air Posts: 423	__________________ a few mods: -180* Jet t-stat -Amsoil Eaa drop in filter -HopNot total package -275/50-17 M&H drag radials on mustang cobra r's for track days future mods: -hurst shifter -exhaust -custom tune -driver mod

12-18-2009, 04:04 PM	#3631
Dakota Kid Drives: 2010 2SS/RJT/L99 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,151	As someone who is NOT brand loyal, just a muscle car enthusiast, I think this is great news for all of us. I will be sure to test drive one in the spring, and if I like it then hell it will be parked next to my wife to be's 2010 SS. We love the Camaro, and have no regrets. It is gorgeous, fast and fun to drive. Bring it on, Ford! __________________ 2SS/RJT/L99

12-18-2009, 04:41 PM	#3634
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ULTRAZLS1 Drives: 14 Silverado LTZ Z71, 16 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 4,418	Should be solid. Im excited. I would honestly be very tempted to buy one if it wasnt a mod motor. And also from reading about the motor not even needing headers and other details makes it sound rather maxed out from the factory. Now im sure it will still respond well to mods but not nearly like an ls3. I cant wait for the first head to head test. I wonder if the 2011 camaro will at least get some gears. It is going to need it. SWAT...the main point of my last post was simply that a lot of you mustang guys dont think much of the half second and 6mph average trap speed advantage a stock camaro has over a stock mustang currently. So basically I am preparing myself for if and when the mustang edges out the camaro by a tenth or so in the quarter. I dont want to hear any bragging...lol. Ne wayz...got to give credit where credit is due. looks impressive.