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megancanada · 12-23-2009, 06:58 AM

HEADS UP - Ordered tires and 18" rims for the winter from The Tire Rack but they have been informed of a "in production" brake pad change that may cause your 18" rims not to fit when you have to get new pads. Anyone else heard of this? Appears Brembo and Chev have made an on the fly change and now the new pads are larger and won't clear 18"rims! They were going to ship my tires but stopped until they figure out what is going on.

garfin · 12-23-2009, 09:35 AM

If you have an SS (20" wheels), then you might have a problem regardless, just trying to fit 18" wheels over the original Brembo calipers. Usually it's the size of the calipers that prevent the use of smaller wheels.
When I did the C5 brake upgrade on my '98 SS, I determined that if my car had the original 16" wheels that came on the Z28, they would not fit over the C5 calipers. The 17" SS wheels barely clear the C5 calipers, but the donut spare does not.

Best regardSS,

Elie

Mr Twisty · 12-23-2009, 10:00 AM

Hey garfin

CTS-V? or still waiting?

Brake pad thickness won't change the rotor placement. The rotors themselves have changed tho, I believe it has to do with the weights that used to be mounted on top... there's a thread about it around here someplace.

garfin · 12-23-2009, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Hey garfin

CTS-V? or still waiting?

Brake pad thickness won't change the rotor placement. The rotors themselves have changed tho, I believe it has to do with the weights that used to be mounted on top... there's a thread about it around here someplace.

Heh, heh... the wait is over. 6-speed manual CTS-V in Thunder Gray with Recaros etc. just ordered within the last few days!

Best regardSS,

Elie

jacques · 12-23-2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Hey garfin

CTS-V? or still waiting?

Brake pad thickness won't change the rotor placement. The rotors themselves have changed tho, I believe it has to do with the weights that used to be mounted on top... there's a thread about it around here someplace.

Here is the thread that you are referring to. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57247

I can't tell if the weights are part of the pad backing plate or another part of the caliper assembly. In any event, the weights appear to protrude much further than the stick on weights do. This will certainly effect the usability of 18" wheels on an SS going forward.

Gforce8 · 12-25-2009, 02:06 PM

I bought these at tire rack and I have a lot of space for thicker pads even if the caliper moves out.
Bought these for 1450 with sensors!
These are awesome in the snow.
Firestone winterforce wheels msw type 12.

Gforce8 · 12-25-2009, 02:07 PM

Sorry , I meant goodyears not firestone.

GNVenom · 12-25-2009, 10:42 PM

18 in. wheels fit no problem on the SS, maybe 3/8-1/2 in. of minimum clearance.

jacques · 12-26-2009, 08:47 AM

^

This same wheel did not fit my SS. The top of the caliper weights were rubbing against the inside of the barrel.

GNVenom · 12-26-2009, 09:12 AM

Ouch! So, did you find out if there was a change in the spec for that caliper? It's a 3rd. party component, so there must have been a reason...which makes me wonder what the "problem" was with the first run. I don't experience squeaky brakes (not yet). Had to have been a pretty big issue.

It must be a Brembo issue. It would be very interesting to see what Tire Rack comes up with. It has to have been changed after a certain VIN date.

EDIT: My VIN is 53xxx. I think we should poll the list to see when that change was initiated.

SRFnSNO · 12-26-2009, 10:11 AM

To play it safe I went with the 19" MSW Type 16 in black.
There was plenty of space between calaper and brake.
But it was close between the Spokes and Brake Caliper. Had about 1/4-3/8" clearance. But that is enough

Ravirn · 12-27-2009, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNVenom

It must be a Brembo issue. It would be very interesting to see what Tire Rack comes up with. It has to have been changed after a certain VIN date.

EDIT: My VIN is 53xxx. I think we should poll the list to see when that change was initiated.

BOOM! I think you hit the nail on the head.

I'd like to see a list generated about this.

y2jdmbfan · 12-28-2009, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacques

^

This same wheel did not fit my SS. The top of the caliper weights were rubbing against the inside of the barrel.

What wheel were you talking about?

Mr Twisty · 12-28-2009, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garfin

Heh, heh... the wait is over. 6-speed manual CTS-V in Thunder Gray with Recaros etc. just ordered within the last few days!

Best regardSS,

Elie

CONGRAT'S!
Have pity on the poor SS that unfortunately crosses your path

12-23-2009, 06:58 AM	#1
megancanada Drives: 2010 CAMARO SS L99 Victory Red Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sharon, Ontario Canada Posts: 6	Camaro SS / Brembo Brake 18" rim problem for winter tires HEADS UP - Ordered tires and 18" rims for the winter from The Tire Rack but they have been informed of a "in production" brake pad change that may cause your 18" rims not to fit when you have to get new pads. Anyone else heard of this? Appears Brembo and Chev have made an on the fly change and now the new pads are larger and won't clear 18"rims! They were going to ship my tires but stopped until they figure out what is going on.

12-23-2009, 09:35 AM	#2
garfin Resident Disciple Drives: 2010 CTS-V 6MN '98 Camaro SS (Sold) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Roches Point, Ontario, Canada Posts: 607	If you have an SS (20" wheels), then you might have a problem regardless, just trying to fit 18" wheels over the original Brembo calipers. Usually it's the size of the calipers that prevent the use of smaller wheels. When I did the C5 brake upgrade on my '98 SS, I determined that if my car had the original 16" wheels that came on the Z28, they would not fit over the C5 calipers. The 17" SS wheels barely clear the C5 calipers, but the donut spare does not. Best regardSS, Elie __________________ 2010 Cadillac CTS-V 6MN Thunder Gray 1998 Camaro SS # C079 SOLD

12-23-2009, 10:00 AM	#3
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,763	Hey garfin CTS-V? or still waiting? Brake pad thickness won't change the rotor placement. The rotors themselves have changed tho, I believe it has to do with the weights that used to be mounted on top... there's a thread about it around here someplace. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin lib·er·ty /ˈlibərdē/ noun 1. the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views

12-25-2009, 02:06 PM	#6
Gforce8 WFO all the way Drives: Hyper Blue 2SS, Kalahari, 6 speed Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 367	SS wheels 18" fits well I bought these at tire rack and I have a lot of space for thicker pads even if the caliper moves out. Bought these for 1450 with sensors! These are awesome in the snow. Firestone winterforce wheels msw type 12. Attached Images __________________ 2016 2SS -no mods

12-25-2009, 02:07 PM	#7
Gforce8 WFO all the way Drives: Hyper Blue 2SS, Kalahari, 6 speed Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 367	Sorry , I meant goodyears not firestone. __________________ 2016 2SS -no mods

12-25-2009, 10:42 PM	#8
GNVenom Turbos. Turbos. Turbos. Drives: 2010 SS Yellow/Black Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Loveland, Colorado Posts: 201	18 in. wheels fit no problem on the SS, maybe 3/8-1/2 in. of minimum clearance. Attached Images __________________ John Spina Caspers Electronics Inc. Loveland CO 2010 2SS/RS Yellow/Black > http://www.bummlbe.com

12-26-2009, 08:47 AM	#9
jacques Drives: Summit White 2SS RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montgomery County Posts: 122	^ This same wheel did not fit my SS. The top of the caliper weights were rubbing against the inside of the barrel.

12-26-2009, 09:12 AM	#10
GNVenom Turbos. Turbos. Turbos. Drives: 2010 SS Yellow/Black Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Loveland, Colorado Posts: 201	Ouch! So, did you find out if there was a change in the spec for that caliper? It's a 3rd. party component, so there must have been a reason...which makes me wonder what the "problem" was with the first run. I don't experience squeaky brakes (not yet). Had to have been a pretty big issue. It must be a Brembo issue. It would be very interesting to see what Tire Rack comes up with. It has to have been changed after a certain VIN date. EDIT: My VIN is 53xxx. I think we should poll the list to see when that change was initiated. __________________ John Spina Caspers Electronics Inc. Loveland CO 2010 2SS/RS Yellow/Black > http://www.bummlbe.com Last edited by GNVenom; 12-26-2009 at 09:23 AM.

12-26-2009, 10:11 AM	#11
SRFnSNO Drives: Blown & Flamed Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jerzy Posts: 654 View My Garage	To play it safe I went with the 19" MSW Type 16 in black. There was plenty of space between calaper and brake. But it was close between the Spokes and Brake Caliper. Had about 1/4-3/8" clearance. But that is enough

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