M6 Owners and Skip Shift Beware!

[Russell James]

Originally Posted by multiSS

I agree with you completely. GM should make this much easier to bypass!!

I stuck a 99 cent Radio Shack resistor in mine 30 minutes after I got home from picking it up brand new from the dealer. Not sure that it could be any easier than that.

Done the same thing with all the six speeds I've bought for the past 10 years or so. In the time it takes to complain about, it can be bypassed for under a buck. I'll take that any day versus paying the gas guzzler tax.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by respawn

So, is the skip shift only on the V8 camaro? Not on the manual V6?

Yep

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by herkman

Come on people....he was on a hill and had to put the clutch in to shift! the car is going to roll backwards until a gear is found and whether or not it stalled is not an issue either. If it would have been wet or ice on the ground, are you still going to say gun it to 19 mph? Skip shift sucks and actually could cause an accident during the hesitation to find the gear.

Skip shift doesn't activate when you are stopped. The only time you roll backwards is when you are stopped on a hill. If you get moving in 1st then try and shift is when it activates. If he's moving forward then he's not going to roll backward unless he holds the clutch in until the car slows and stops and then begins to roll backward.

[Russell James]

Originally Posted by CPanther95

Ignore the apologists, a handful on this forum seem obliged to defend every possible thing about the Camaro, no matter how ridiculous. I swear, if it was designed with a hole in the gas tank, there are some who will tell you to buy an electric car if you can't afford the cost for gas.

Skip Shift is unnecessary, awkward and potentially dangerous. I agree with you, not only should it be bypassed, GM should make it much easier to do so. I understand the politics behind the decision, but I don't understand why they didn't make the solution a simple fuse pull/replacement.

There is no politics, it's a tremendous favor they are doing for us to avoid paying the gas guzzler tax. Here is a feature - just saved you thousands thank you very much. Don't like that feature, get off your couch and unplug it. Stick a reisistor or an aftermarket "module" in it and be done with it. I've struggled more making toast some days than defeating Skip Shift.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

You put it in first you leave it there, you don't have to gun it.

If I recall correctly, first gear is good enough to get you to 81MPH at full throttle, so if you are shifting BEFORE 20MPH where the system is cancelled then you're not even getting to 1/4 throttle in first gear.

All you have to do to avoid the system is accelerate the exact same way you currently do (fast/slow/prius) and instead of shifting at 3/16 throttle (18MPH) you wait until you're at 5/16 throttle (22MPH).

The ONLY thing you change is the amount you press in before you shift. You don't take off any faster and you don't do anything crazy. Just press in a tiny bit more.

Easy!

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Russell James

There is no politics, it's a tremendous favor they are doing for us to avoid paying the gas guzzler tax. Here is a feature - just saved you thousands thank you very much. Don't like that feature, get off your couch and unplug it. Stick a reisistor or an aftermarket "module" in it and be done with it. I've struggled more making toast some days than defeating Skip Shift.

I think you inadvertently stumbled across the REAL problem...

The reason we HAVE this dumb feature on our car is BECAUSE some idiot beaurocrat politician GOT INVOLVED where they have no business.

Instead of spending $30 on a skip shift eliminator, donate the $30 to the campaign of someone willing to put an end to these stupid intrusions on our lives!

[caverman]

Originally Posted by Russell James

I stuck a 99 cent Radio Shack resistor in mine 30 minutes after I got home from picking it up brand new from the dealer. Not sure that it could be any easier than that.

Done the same thing with all the six speeds I've bought for the past 10 years or so. In the time it takes to complain about, it can be bypassed for under a buck. I'll take that any day versus paying the gas guzzler tax.

What are the specifics on the resistor? Just want to verify from someone that has it working. Don't want to get the wrong thing.

[herkman]

Skip shift doesn't activate when you are stopped. The only time you roll backwards is when you are stopped on a hill. If you get moving in 1st then try and shift is when it activates. If he's moving forward then he's not going to roll backward unless he holds the clutch in until the car slows and stops and then begins to roll backward.

No, but if you are going slow in first and you put the clutch in for second and it doesn't go there, then you realize it went into skip shift....by the time you get it into fourth, then yes you have rolled back going up hill (law of gravity)

[macwest]

Thank you for posting the resister solution.

My 2 cents on the bypass I dont like it but I dislike the gas guzzler tax more. Since this is easy and cheap to fix I would rather see this solution then have to pay a gas guzzler tax. In the end, for me with my driving style I still have not seen this issue yet.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by herkman

No, but if you are going slow in first and you put the clutch in for second and it doesn't go there, then you realize it went into skip shift....by the time you get it into fourth, then yes you have rolled back going up hill (law of gravity)

Don't shift so early and it will not happen. If you just have to shift around 15-18 mph into 2nd, then I guess you will need the skip shift.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by herkman

No, but if you are going slow in first and you put the clutch in for second and it doesn't go there, then you realize it went into skip shift....by the time you get it into fourth, then yes you have rolled back going up hill (law of gravity)

If the hill is steep enough for the car to stop rolling forward and begin to roll backward in the 0.5 seconds where skip shift is active then you probably would have stalled in second gear anyhow, since the hill must be a 45% grade or you were going under 10MPH. (Law of common sense)

[GC-Camaro]

Originally Posted by DkknightX

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I know it's mostly the way I'm driving but it just doesn't feel natural. My Cobalt doesn't do it and I guess that's what I'm used to. Is the SLP eliminator easy to install?

Yes it is easy to install, just make sure you get the right plug. It took be about 30 minutes.

Originally Posted by Alain

where can i get the eliminator? link?

thanks guys

http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?P=21008

[CPanther95]

Originally Posted by Dire Wolf

Skip shift is only encountered if you're not shifting correctly.

BS.

If I want my car to dictate how I shift, I'll get an automatic.

BTW - you still avoid the gas guzzler tax if you make it easier to bypass. That's all the OP is saying. Not sure why people are so hell bent on not making it easier - unless they just feel more comfortable having their car tell them when, and where to shift. And feel compelled for everyone else to either drive like them or give up the freedom to choose their own gear.

[kauffjd3]

Originally Posted by DkknightX

I was driving with my wife tonight and for the umteenth time, I have been dealing with repeated skip shift problems. Before you jump all over me, I am well aware there is a bypass available and that skip shift was implemented to avoid gas guzzler taxes. I am currently looking into getting the bypass but I think GM needs to do something better.

Skip shift is occuring at the most inopportune times, but I've been dealing with it...that is until tonight, where it became more than an inconvenience.

I was sitting at a red light tonight driving to my mother's house after dinner with my wife and the hill was a pretty steep incline. The light turned green and the car behind me was right on my bumper. I have been driving manual for a very long time and regardless of how good you think you are, you are going to roll back, even if it is just a little. Tonight, I was able to get the car moving but as soon as I went for second gear, skip shift went into effect, I switched to fourth and the car stalled. The car behind me missed my bumper by literally a hair. If I wasn't quick on the brake, I would have rolled back and hit the guy and my wife was scared out of her mind as she let out a shriek when it happened.

This nuisance is an accident waiting to happen and thankfully it can be bypassed, but the average "Joe" wouldn't know how and just deal with it until an accident happens. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks all!

I was going to post the same exact thing! Same thing happened to me. At a red light in first. Light turned green forced me into fourth on the shift and the car fell on its face. Luckily I didn't stall it as I pushed the clutch back in before it stalled and through it back in first.

Very bad situation while sitting in the middle of the intersection!