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Total_Perf_Eng · 01-18-2010, 09:38 PM

Yeah, the KB's are the most complete kit I have ever worked with. Hell, the KB install manual for the corvette had 255 pages, and 710 pictures. It is no more difficult than the maggie. But the maggie had something like 43 pages. Not that theirs isnt complete, because it is, only that KB literally takes 100% of the guesswork out of it. They have a picture for EVERY step, no matter how small. Even cutting a 1" piece of electrical tape..

They also include every nut, bolt, piece of electrical tape, zip ties, allen wrenches, Hell, they even include the solder if you need to solder a wire. It literally includes EVERY SINGLE PIECE you need with the exception of the hand tools themselves. That is for either the tuner kit or the complete kit. The only difference is the tuner kit doesnt come with injectors or the tune.

They even include the socket size your gonna need when turning the bolt..

Jared@Lethal · 01-18-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by meanmike

So you have something for the 2011 Stang? If so please tell me more.

meanmike · 01-18-2010, 10:22 PM

You guy's quit teasing!

Whipple Charged · 01-18-2010, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meanmike

So you have something for the 2011 Stang? If so please tell me more.

Yup, we have 2 systems, did rapid prototype pieces for testing and production units will be available March 15th through FRPP. 2nd system will be out in June.

I can't release any power info or other data until FRPP gives the ok, but they make incredible power. The best part is, at least for some is that the new PCM is extremely sophisticated and will really give incredible performance and reliability. Aftermarket tuners will have a lot harder time than before, especially for a supercharger.

Whipple Charged · 01-18-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by garagelogic

Awesome, but that has not always been the case, has it? When I was looking to twin screw my 2007 GT500, I could purchase a Whipple blower, but that was all. No throttle body, no tune, etc. In order to install the Whipple, I would have looked to another source for the stuff I needed to safely install the blower. With the KB, everything I needed (blower, throttle body, MAFia, tune, belt, dual Boost-a-Pump, etc.) all came complete in the kit. It took me 4 hours in my garage to install everything and drive down the road with the new blower.

If you are now offering complete kits, that's a great thing as I know the Whipples are great units and certainly make power.

Yes, we now offer complete kits. The reason we didn't actively promote our complete kits before is that we were working with FRPP on a few things. We had complete kits that we did for certain dealerships such as Tasca.

Thanks

VADER SS L99 · 01-18-2010, 11:03 PM

I voted KB becuase if their kit is every bit as good as the cobra kits then it will be a winner. I dont think you can go wrong with either though. My question is weither or not the liquid cooling will be offered in the 2.8. I know its offered in the 3.6 but that blower will be a bit big on a stock motor. I will be interested in the 2.8 if it offers the same benefits as the 3.6 that was in the Feb addition of MM & FF ( I used to have a S197 GT, please dont bash me). If it reduces the same amount of parasitic loss, has liquid cooling and seal pressure equalization than I think this will be the blower for me as I can grow into it later.

East Coast Supercharging · 01-19-2010, 10:36 AM

Another vote for whipple, although anyone who knows us, knows we are centrifugal fans, but we have installed a handful of TVS 2300's now on the fifth gen Camaro with very nice results.

Hats off to Whipple for a proven product in the LS community.

SC2150 · 01-19-2010, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whipple Charged

Yup, we have 2 systems, did rapid prototype pieces for testing and production units will be available March 15th through FRPP. 2nd system will be out in June.

I can't release any power info or other data until FRPP gives the ok, but they make incredible power. The best part is, at least for some is that the new PCM is extremely sophisticated and will really give incredible performance and reliability. Aftermarket tuners will have a lot harder time than before, especially for a supercharger.

How are you coming with the largemm TB for the latest? I sent Dunstin the diagram for the flange mount a few months back.

Anyone on the bench, the Whipple will deffinately be worth the wait!!

*radz28* · 01-19-2010, 11:13 AM

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nfamous209 · 01-19-2010, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC2150

How are you coming with the largemm TB for the latest? I sent Dunstin the diagram for the flange mount a few months back.

Anyone on the bench, the Whipple will deffinately be worth the wait!!

its always worth it.

Z_Rocks · 01-19-2010, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by East Coast Supercharging

Another vote for whipple, although anyone who knows us, knows we are centrifugal fans, but we have installed a handful of TVS 2300's now on the fifth gen Camaro with very nice results.

Hats off to Whipple for a proven product in the LS community.

Whipple combined with ECS install & support is a win win situation.

Two companies with Integrity!

SC2150 · 01-19-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

Whipple combined with ECS install & support is a win win situation.

Two companies with Integrity!

Gotta Agree with this one!

Whipple Charged · 01-19-2010, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I voted KB becuase if their kit is every bit as good as the cobra kits then it will be a winner. I dont think you can go wrong with either though. My question is weither or not the liquid cooling will be offered in the 2.8. I know its offered in the 3.6 but that blower will be a bit big on a stock motor. I will be interested in the 2.8 if it offers the same benefits as the 3.6 that was in the Feb addition of MM & FF ( I used to have a S197 GT, please dont bash me). If it reduces the same amount of parasitic loss, has liquid cooling and seal pressure equalization than I think this will be the blower for me as I can grow into it later.

Not sure about KB, bout our 2.9L will be offered in water cooled. Though it does nothing at low boost levels, its for higher boost levels.

Whipple Charged · 01-19-2010, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC2150

How are you coming with the largemm TB for the latest? I sent Dunstin the diagram for the flange mount a few months back.

Anyone on the bench, the Whipple will deffinately be worth the wait!!

Yup, it requires a billet adapter but we made it work, so now power restriction there! Thanks Tracy!

View Poll Results: Who wins this battle?
Kenne Bell	56	50.91%
Whipple	45	40.91%
Other Twin Screw company - Post who	9	8.18%
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01-18-2010, 11:03 PM	#34
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	I voted KB becuase if their kit is every bit as good as the cobra kits then it will be a winner. I dont think you can go wrong with either though. My question is weither or not the liquid cooling will be offered in the 2.8. I know its offered in the 3.6 but that blower will be a bit big on a stock motor. I will be interested in the 2.8 if it offers the same benefits as the 3.6 that was in the Feb addition of MM & FF ( I used to have a S197 GT, please dont bash me). If it reduces the same amount of parasitic loss, has liquid cooling and seal pressure equalization than I think this will be the blower for me as I can grow into it later. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

01-19-2010, 11:13 AM	#37
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,798 View My Garage	If comments are not kept on topic and don't remain non-suggestive, infractions will be issued and this thread shut-down and deleted. No more warnings. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

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01-18-2010, 09:38 PM	#29
Total_Perf_Eng Drives: Corvette Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 509	Yeah, the KB's are the most complete kit I have ever worked with. Hell, the KB install manual for the corvette had 255 pages, and 710 pictures. It is no more difficult than the maggie. But the maggie had something like 43 pages. Not that theirs isnt complete, because it is, only that KB literally takes 100% of the guesswork out of it. They have a picture for EVERY step, no matter how small. Even cutting a 1" piece of electrical tape.. They also include every nut, bolt, piece of electrical tape, zip ties, allen wrenches, Hell, they even include the solder if you need to solder a wire. It literally includes EVERY SINGLE PIECE you need with the exception of the hand tools themselves. That is for either the tuner kit or the complete kit. The only difference is the tuner kit doesnt come with injectors or the tune. They even include the socket size your gonna need when turning the bolt..

01-18-2010, 10:22 PM	#31
meanmike Account Suspended Drives: FIRST ON RACE DAY Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,170	You guy's quit teasing!

01-19-2010, 10:36 AM	#35
East Coast Supercharging Drives: 8 second C5 Drag Car, C6 Road racer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cream Ridge, NJ 609-752-0321 Posts: 778	Another vote for whipple, although anyone who knows us, knows we are centrifugal fans, but we have installed a handful of TVS 2300's now on the fifth gen Camaro with very nice results. Hats off to Whipple for a proven product in the LS community.