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headpunter · 10-01-2008, 03:37 PM

i cant remember if it was a 4th genbut i could swear the 5th gen that had a mobil 1 logo on the fill cap

*radz28* · 10-01-2008, 03:40 PM

No synthetic from the factory on 4th. Gens. but I believe SSs and WS6 cars, from SLP, came with Quaker State (either that, or it was an option.) They've been running sythetic in 'Vettes since LT1s if I'm not mistaken, so synthetics can't be that bad... I guess...

headpunter · 10-01-2008, 03:42 PM

well all the corvettes with ls1,2,3,6,7's all come with mobile one

*radz28* · 10-01-2008, 03:47 PM

That's what I was thinking too, but I feel better I have confirmation. I think that speaks well of synthetics too because after all the LT1 intake manifold leaks (even on the LT1 in my '95 Z28) I'd think GM would change it they didn't think it was beneficial. That's one of the reasons I haven't completely bitten on the whole dino'-oil-is-better wagon. I understand you don't really want to switch too late in the engine's life, but that's mostly because synthetic oil is smaller and more uniform in size than dino' oil, therefore more apt to find spots to leak through. As far as protection, it is said by a guy on LS1tech that has tested oil that the oil is good through like 10K miles (or something) but it's more a matter it becomes contaminated with engine debris and chemical contaminants from combustion than it actually breaks down.

lalometalik · 10-01-2008, 03:48 PM

would an engine flush help clear the synth?

u know, just incase

headpunter · 10-01-2008, 04:33 PM

i am still of the inclination they break in the motor before installation

DntWrryBeHappy21 · 10-01-2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headpunter

i am still of the inclination they break in the motor before installation

it makes sense that way the engine would be in better shape i guarantee a good amount of the people that are buying these cars may not know about the break in period and that could lead to the company being blamed for problems later on....

headpunter · 10-01-2008, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DntWrryBeHappy21

it makes sense that way the engine would be in better shape i guarantee a good amount of the people that are buying these cars may not know about the break in period and that could lead to the company being blamed for problems later on....

thats what i thought, seems like how lutz would think

lalometalik · 10-01-2008, 04:57 PM

they may have their own methods of 'braking the motor in', but IMO theres no way they run it, like you would be driving it, for the first 100s of miles.
its still a good question tho, maybe CamaroScotty could answer this one ?

SimC33 · 10-01-2008, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalometalik

they may have their own methods of 'braking the motor in', but IMO theres no way they run it, like you would be driving it, for the first 100s of miles.
its still a good question tho, maybe CamaroScotty could answer this one ?

I agree with that as well...Yea the've taken it to the track and pushed the motor in other ways, but I find it hard to believe that they have run it, or "broken it in" to the way other users will do once they buy them, thats why I said earlier that the owners manual is fine, but thats their "recommended" procedure...

CamaroScotty!!! what you think?

headpunter · 10-01-2008, 05:03 PM

where is Fbodfather or Al Oppenheiser when we need him

lalometalik · 10-01-2008, 05:20 PM

i think i'll stick to the break-in game plan either way, just to be safe

according to the mototuneusa link above: "the window of opportunity for achieving an exceptional ring seal is much smaller with
newer engines than it was with the older "rough honed" engines."
meaning the first 100s of miles...

SimC33 · 10-01-2008, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalometalik

i think i'll stick to the break-in game plan either way, just to be safe

according to the mototuneusa link above: "the window of opportunity for achieving an exceptional ring seal is much smaller with
newer engines than it was with the older "rough honed" engines."
meaning the first 100s of miles...

I really like that link you and others provided about the break in. I've read a lot of threads and such on it, but this has caught my interest more than others...I think I may follow this as well...

fbird777 · 10-01-2008, 05:35 PM

I believe the engine is broken in before the engine is ever placed in the vehicle like others believe. The manual will still tell you to break the engine in for added insurance I believe.

10-01-2008, 03:37 PM	#43
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,745 View My Garage	i cant remember if it was a 4th genbut i could swear the 5th gen that had a mobil 1 logo on the fill cap __________________ Stop Whinging

10-01-2008, 03:40 PM	#44
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,795 View My Garage	No synthetic from the factory on 4th. Gens. but I believe SSs and WS6 cars, from SLP, came with Quaker State (either that, or it was an option.) They've been running sythetic in 'Vettes since LT1s if I'm not mistaken, so synthetics can't be that bad... I guess... __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

10-01-2008, 03:42 PM	#45
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,745 View My Garage	well all the corvettes with ls1,2,3,6,7's all come with mobile one __________________ Stop Whinging

10-01-2008, 03:47 PM	#46
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,795 View My Garage	That's what I was thinking too, but I feel better I have confirmation. I think that speaks well of synthetics too because after all the LT1 intake manifold leaks (even on the LT1 in my '95 Z28) I'd think GM would change it they didn't think it was beneficial. That's one of the reasons I haven't completely bitten on the whole dino'-oil-is-better wagon. I understand you don't really want to switch too late in the engine's life, but that's mostly because synthetic oil is smaller and more uniform in size than dino' oil, therefore more apt to find spots to leak through. As far as protection, it is said by a guy on LS1tech that has tested oil that the oil is good through like 10K miles (or something) but it's more a matter it becomes contaminated with engine debris and chemical contaminants from combustion than it actually breaks down. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

10-01-2008, 03:48 PM	#47
lalometalik killer bAnana Drives: 1985 z28 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carson, CA Posts: 694	would an engine flush help clear the synth? u know, just incase __________________ "Shut your noise tube, Taco Human!"

10-01-2008, 04:33 PM	#48
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,745 View My Garage	i am still of the inclination they break in the motor before installation __________________ Stop Whinging

10-01-2008, 04:57 PM	#51
lalometalik killer bAnana Drives: 1985 z28 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carson, CA Posts: 694	they may have their own methods of 'braking the motor in', but IMO theres no way they run it, like you would be driving it, for the first 100s of miles. its still a good question tho, maybe CamaroScotty could answer this one ? __________________ "Shut your noise tube, Taco Human!"

10-01-2008, 05:03 PM	#53
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,745 View My Garage	where is Fbodfather or Al Oppenheiser when we need him __________________ Stop Whinging

10-01-2008, 05:20 PM	#54
lalometalik killer bAnana Drives: 1985 z28 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carson, CA Posts: 694	i think i'll stick to the break-in game plan either way, just to be safe according to the mototuneusa link above: "the window of opportunity for achieving an exceptional ring seal is much smaller with newer engines than it was with the older "rough honed" engines." meaning the first 100s of miles... __________________ "Shut your noise tube, Taco Human!"

10-01-2008, 05:35 PM	#56
fbird777 SOM WS6 Drives: 2002 SOM Trans Am WS6 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kinston, NC Posts: 266	I believe the engine is broken in before the engine is ever placed in the vehicle like others believe. The manual will still tell you to break the engine in for added insurance I believe.

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