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2010SSRS · 02-12-2010, 07:45 PM

sorry, but i fall on the Maggie side. if the hog was a stock option, maybe......but to swap a BRAND NEW engine?

besides, i found this on Ebay for $6300 shipped!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...CA:MOTORS:1123

Supercharger for me brother!

VADER SS L99 · 02-18-2010, 02:00 AM

The cost per dollar ratio of the FI route far outways the motor swap. Lets say you do get 620fwhp on the LSX. The FI route could be making that much to the wheels and have alot of extra money to pocket. Those that say the LSX would be a drag only engine with alot of maintenance are wrong though. This motor could be made to have perfect driveability with the same maintenance of the ls3. The only thing that would suffer is mpg, by alot. lol. If you have some problem with FI then the LSX motor combination is a good choice or if you are going for more than 800rwhp. If you are not going for insane power and have no discrimination to FI than this motor route is just more money than you need to spend.

ls2 goat · 02-18-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

The cost per dollar ratio of the FI route far outways the motor swap. Lets say you do get 620fwhp on the LSX. The FI route could be making that much to the wheels and have alot of extra money to pocket. Those that say the LSX would be a drag only engine with alot of maintenance are wrong though. This motor could be made to have perfect driveability with the same maintenance of the ls3. The only thing that would suffer is mpg, by alot. lol. If you have some problem with FI then the LSX motor combination is a good choice or if you are going for more than 800rwhp. If you are not going for insane power and have no discrimination to FI than this motor route is just more money than you need to spend.

I am saying its better suited for a drag motor in the Camaro, GTO, etc based on the weight alone. Our cars are already heavy and throwing more weight on the front end is not beneficial for handeling. That being said, the 454 would be a damn stump puller and fun as hell to drive on the street, if you could get her to hook...As for those using the more maintenance arguement, thats bunk.

Robert91RS · 02-18-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

The cost per dollar ratio of the FI route far outways the motor swap. Lets say you do get 620fwhp on the LSX. The FI route could be making that much to the wheels and have alot of extra money to pocket. Those that say the LSX would be a drag only engine with alot of maintenance are wrong though. This motor could be made to have perfect driveability with the same maintenance of the ls3. The only thing that would suffer is mpg, by alot. lol. If you have some problem with FI then the LSX motor combination is a good choice or if you are going for more than 800rwhp. If you are not going for insane power and have no discrimination to FI than this motor route is just more money than you need to spend.

I agree with everything you said except the price difference between the two.

The sale of your very low mileage LS3/L99 could easily offset a considerable amount of the cost assuming you did the install yourself. Plus a LSX454 would take a hell of a beating for alot longer than a blown stock motor. If that's not enough reason to reconsider, the LSX could be putting down huge numbers on juice or boost later without even breakin a sweat. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE me some Maggie but this would leave lots of growin room. Not to mention the wicked braggin rights that come with 454 cubes.

Will@Apf · 02-18-2010, 10:53 AM

Motor 9,800-10,000, headers, intake, efi,install, tune, 15-16k out the door easy.. but the lsx setup will be nice...

Dr Jkel · 02-18-2010, 12:37 PM

Why not just buya Vette??? Just asking

VADER SS L99 · 02-19-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert91RS

I agree with everything you said except the price difference between the two.

The sale of your very low mileage LS3/L99 could easily offset a considerable amount of the cost assuming you did the install yourself. Plus a LSX454 would take a hell of a beating for alot longer than a blown stock motor. If that's not enough reason to reconsider, the LSX could be putting down huge numbers on juice or boost later without even breakin a sweat. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE me some Maggie but this would leave lots of growin room. Not to mention the wicked braggin rights that come with 454 cubes.

You are correct if you do the work yourself but I should have clarified high end shop build. Also all the odds and ends and accesories of a motor swap really add up. For an all out build this motor would take whatever you throw at it laugh in your face and ask "is that all you got!" For those that want less than 600RWHP this is not cost effective me thinks even with the selling of the old motor. For those wanting less than 800rwhp it definitly would not be cost effective because you could have a shop like Texas Speed build you a stroker ls3 built for boost and still sell your old motor. For clarification I give the LS7 headed LSX all kinds of

. The flow potential of those heads along with the 6 bolt head studs and iron block give me wood at the thought of how much power this motor can make in an all out build. That is not the issue though, price is. Under 800rwhp, LS3. Over 800rwhp, LS7 headed LSX.

Robert91RS · 02-19-2010, 10:39 AM

Ok, I'll give you that. But I still want somebody will the wallet to step up and do the swap anyways

please.....I just wanna watch......

*The_Blur* · 02-19-2010, 10:43 AM

I wonder if I could talk Nickey Chicago into doing this instead of a built LS7.

Robert91RS · 02-19-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

I wonder if I could talk Nickey Chicago into doing this instead of a built LS7.

Is that a hint Blur or are you just sayin?

NicKey · 02-19-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

I wonder if I could talk Nickey Chicago into doing this instead of a built LS7.

We have tested all Aluminum block LS based engines up to 500ci.

We get a safe 441 ci by stroking the LS7 with a stock bore.

Blur,

We'll put you in line for our first LSX 454 based Super Camaro.

BUMBLEB · 02-19-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrbowtie26

Why spend 7k on a magnacharger when you can buy an LSX 454 with 620 hp for $9500 Just curious on opinions. Not sure how many people have gone this rout, it just seems like a killer deal for a motor directly from GM.
Thanks

Well lets buy that and then put a Maggie on also and realy have a shi* load of pony's.

02-12-2010, 07:45 PM	#29
2010SSRS Drives: 2000 Silverado Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southern WI Posts: 1,240	sorry, but i fall on the Maggie side. if the hog was a stock option, maybe......but to swap a BRAND NEW engine? besides, i found this on Ebay for $6300 shipped! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...CA:MOTORS:1123 Supercharger for me brother! __________________ IOM 2SSRS LS3 R6P - VIN 7553 Delivered 5/22/2009 Kooks, Corsa and Roto-Fab - SOLD 9/2010 VR 2SSRS LS3 - Borla, SLP CAI

02-18-2010, 02:00 AM	#30
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	The cost per dollar ratio of the FI route far outways the motor swap. Lets say you do get 620fwhp on the LSX. The FI route could be making that much to the wheels and have alot of extra money to pocket. Those that say the LSX would be a drag only engine with alot of maintenance are wrong though. This motor could be made to have perfect driveability with the same maintenance of the ls3. The only thing that would suffer is mpg, by alot. lol. If you have some problem with FI then the LSX motor combination is a good choice or if you are going for more than 800rwhp. If you are not going for insane power and have no discrimination to FI than this motor route is just more money than you need to spend. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

02-18-2010, 12:37 PM	#34
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02-18-2010, 10:53 AM	#33
Will@Apf Drives: corvette Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Acworth GA Posts: 485	Motor 9,800-10,000, headers, intake, efi,install, tune, 15-16k out the door easy.. but the lsx setup will be nice...

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Robert91RS Drives: Everywhere Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: TX Posts: 852	Ok, I'll give you that. But I still want somebody will the wallet to step up and do the swap anyways please.....I just wanna watch......