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Old 03-21-2010, 03:36 AM   #463
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The curb weight of your car is 3902 unless you have a v6. it’s a fat pig I’m sorry. Ls3 Superior motor in terms of its stock power band range, correct. We are comparing 400hp to a 430hp ls2, however it is a lot easier to get the ls3 within its power band. 30 hp does not make up for the curb weight of the camaro but the engine is very responsive so its easier to get consistent runs.
A stock GTO is slower around a road course than a Camaro but not slower in a straight line. This is very true as I explained the camaro has superior brakes, grippy non all season tires etc.

The Camaro is like having two passengers in your car 3700lbs + 160LB driver vs 3902 + 160lb driver. The camaro is over 4,000 Lbs.

You don’t seem to understand what I’m saying. The camaro is a better stock car on the Track not the strip but it is not a superior car once you modify it. The Curb weight of the Camaro harms the cars trackibility. The car doesn’t even have a spare to remove to lighten it not even digging into the deep things. The GTO also has a tow hitch that can be removed etc. The zeta platform of which the Camaro is based is vastly heavier and has been reinforced more for the camaro.

Of course if I’m talking to people know nothing about cars you may Feel slight sting when GTO’s beat you.

simple facts, right now a GTO is faster than you in a straight line.


Let a owner of both tell you how wrong you are. Curb weight for my GTO 2005 LS2 in stock form 3725, curb weight for my Camaro SS 2010 LS3 in stock form 3849. Get your facts straight first. And this coming from someone who does drag race in stock form highest I had in my Stock GTO was 13.19, in my Stock Camaro SS 12.88. Now as an very experienced racer I know how to get cars to move. You are very bias and I understand its because you love your GTO as do I but lets be real overall its not in the same class. Tell me this how many times before you changed out your stock shifter were you not able to hit 3rd gear in the GTO and how stiff is that clutch. GTO was rushed and not done right, but its still a good car just not as good. and once again
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:01 AM   #464
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Let a owner of both tell you how wrong you are. Curb weight for my GTO 2005 LS2 in stock form 3725, curb weight for my Camaro SS 2010 LS3 in stock form 3849. Get your facts straight first. And this coming from someone who does drag race in stock form highest I had in my Stock GTO was 13.19, in my Stock Camaro SS 12.88. Now as an very experienced racer I know how to get cars to move. You are very bias and I understand its because you love your GTO as do I but lets be real overall its not in the same class. Tell me this how many times before you changed out your stock shifter were you not able to hit 3rd gear in the GTO and how stiff is that clutch. GTO was rushed and not done right, but its still a good car just not as good. and once again


There's a 124 lbs difference. The LS3 also dynos a good 30 rwhp higher (on average) than the manual LS2 GTOs (I owned 2 LS2 GTOs). That more than makes up for the 124 lbs difference.
Combine the extra power with a better suspension and drivetrain and you get a faster car in a straight line.

We all agree the GTO is a fast car. But the LS3 Camaro definately has an advantage.
My stock M6 GTO times were embarrassing because of terrible wheel hop issues.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:16 AM   #465
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Of course if I’m talking to people know nothing about cars you may Feel slight sting when GTO’s beat you. simple facts, right now a GTO is faster than you in a straight line.
You sound like someone with small balls syndrome. Your car is not faster stock for stock, but you argue it is anyways so your balls don't shrink.

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Old 03-21-2010, 10:05 AM   #466
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Why even argue with him? If he knew what he was talking about he would have known the stock curb weights. He would have also known it takes about 10 hp to overcome 100lbs. (rule of thumb for years and years). He would have also known the fastest stock 2010 SS is 12.58 compared to 12.8 for the GTO. All this has been covered 10x in this thread.

Why waste the time? He is just trolling, bored and jealous
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:34 AM   #467
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I've never been beaten by a GTO in straight line and almost ever one I have raced has had a lot more mods than me. I should have listened to ultra, these people have an extra "GTO" chromosome I guess. Then they pull out the "mines faster because I have 8K in mods". Priceless. I should learn every time I see a new post here.
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:54 AM   #468
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my car runs its ass off = 11.60 with 370 hp
no i said the new 5.0 is as big as the old 460.
and wtf are you even doing in a camaro vs gto thread ?

go back to the corral and jerkoff on some other rustangs
dude give it up man...your car looks like a cavalier on steroids...yeah it might be fast but it takes alot of work to make those cars fast......the stock ls2 GTO cant even run with my car and the M6 2010 SS is faster than i am so shut up .win for the SS

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Old 03-21-2010, 12:21 PM   #469
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dude give it up man...your car looks like a cavalier on steroids...yeah it might be fast but it takes alot of work to make those cars fast......the stock ls2 GTO can even run with my car and the M6 2010 SS is faster than i am so shut up .win for the SS

i did drop it but you draged me back in . yes my car is modded .
and it is just bolt -on car ,not even all the bolt -ons
the 11.60 run is on stock gears and no underdrive pulley.
and the cheepest set of wheels .with a better set of wheels and the 3.91 gears i expect to get kicked of a track for too fast (11.49).

i have less than 3k in mods on the car

as for the ss is faster than you ?well im faster than you also ? whats the point . there will always be someone faster.
i just happen to have one of the fastest bolt-on cars .
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Old 03-21-2010, 02:16 PM   #470
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A few songs come to mind with some of the GTO owners...

1. They see me trollin' ......they hatin' ..... (Chamillionaire)

2. Picture me trollin' (Tupac)

3. trollin' down the street,, smokin' on .... (Snoop Dogg)

4. The thunder TROLLS.... (Garth Brooks)

5. Troll Out... (Ludacris)

6. Troll on highway, Troll on along .. Troll on momma til I get back home (Alabama)

7. I love Rock and Troll,, put another dime in the jukebox baby.. (Joan Jett)

8. We'll be trollin'....trollin'.... trollin' on the river.. (Tina Turner)/ CCR

9..

10..
11...

I know you guys have some more for me... lol..
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Old 03-21-2010, 02:29 PM   #471
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Old 03-21-2010, 02:58 PM   #472
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:42 PM   #473
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Keep Trollin, Trollin, Trollin- Limp Bizkit
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:43 PM   #474
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Even the children can enjoy...

- Knick knack paddy whack give a dog a TROLL....this old goat came rolling home.

- Twinkle twinkle little Troll

- Rock-a-bye Troll
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I wonder if they like music from the
Trolling Stones.... lol..... hahaha
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:46 PM   #476
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I wonder if they ask for fresh "Trolls" with their meal when out for dinner.
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