The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by bpmurr

Good lord, read every one I posted in the first link. I've had seat time in a 2SS/RS with and without the 21" wheels. It feels no different then my Stang on rough roads.

Let me start you off with Autoblog.

"As far as the never ending live rear end vs. independent suspension argument goes, we're saying the following: The 2011 Ford Mustang GT sports the very best solid rear axle in the world. We'd rather have the best solid axle than a mediocre multi-point rear. Hint, hint, Chevy. 'Nuff said."

Quoting autoblog about anything substantively automotive is like consulting a little kid on the street about how awesome the power rangers are...they are far from professionals...

[Sawyer]

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

Quoting autoblog about anything substantively automotive is like consulting a little kid on the street about how awesome the power rangers are...they are far from professionals...

LOL

Side note, I was bored to tears looking at the 11 Stang in the edmunds video. Looks so plain.

[Xp0gam3r]

Originally Posted by mustangman99

...If I got offered my 99 Cobra or that POS shark looking thing you call a car....

That shark looking thing looks better than a donkey looking car, that got hammered in the ass to have a disgusting looking back?

[Reeko]

I love Mustangs.
I would have gotten one if not for the Camaro.
But,

We do not yet know what the '11 Camaro will have for HP. It would not take much of a Cam change to get 30 more HP on the LS3. It's only a question of whether Chevy thinks they need to or not.

[hair10]

Originally Posted by mustangman99

I have presented my facts in a calm and rational manner.

Thing is, you don't have any facts. Nobody is able to go to a dealership and buy a 2011 Rustang yet. A few magazine writers have been able to get in one but Joe off the street hasn't. We don't have any "real world" accounts of them yet, just what amounts to controlled press releases.

Not to mention that nobody has any idea what GM has in store for the 2011 Camaro. You're here trolling, but you aren't even comparing apples to apples.

[motorhead]

What always cracks me up is how everyone always says you can't rely on the media for these #'s when the #'s are not what they want to hear ,but then the very same people also post the link or site the media when the #'s favor their car.

[mustangman99]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Actually no. It ran a 12.9 as well in motor trend (they even say so in the article LOL). it also ran a 13.0 at edmunds just like the mustang did.

All with the same trap speeds in all tests (AKA same speed/power in a roll race)

So like I said you are bragging for nothing. We had a reason to brag before...we were spanking that little 4.6 by over a half second son. Now you are nutting over one test that shows a .1 tenth difference with the same trap speed. You make me laugh

And yes it may respond decent to mods...but you have to be crazy to think it will respond like the LS3 will...the 5.0 is all ready close to 100hp per liter....if you know anything about cars you would realize it is far closer to being tapped out than the camaro. Not to mention it has a better exhaust from the factory as well as a CAI.

Do you really think it is a secret to make 412 hp out of 5.0? or that gm can only get 426 hp out of a 6.2?
They have something called GAS MILEAGE to worry about. GM chooses to use a 6.2 because it can make solid power being corked up a bit and still have good mileage. Then when you decide to do mods you have A LOT left in the tank....un-like your 5.0....SON.

Answer me this...do you really tell yourself the new mustang would hang with the new camaro both having bolt ons and a CAM?

This 5.0 may not even be worth a damn supercharged...it has a very high compression ratio.

So again...what exactly are you bragging about.... The .1 tenth difference they got from the camaro ss in the motor trend test (that was on a different day mind you)....the same EXACT time they got at edmunds?....or is it the same trap speeds they got in all the tests?....maybe the mod ability that you know nothing about?

As far as the terminator...yes it had a blower and it was a cobra.....wasnt even in the same price range...I could have cared less back then. But you guys bring it up like its your lone defender because thats all you had

And we are the ones who say wait till next year ROFLMAO...thats all you guys ever say! We say it now because you dont even know what the 2011 camaro has....is it not fair to at least compare year to year? cmon now

Get a life and do your homework.

Trust me there's more left in that motor than you think. Revised tuning can optimize camshaft profiles. The exhaust still can be modified. There's room for P&P of the heads. The factory cold air intake looks cool but won't flow as well as aftermarket systems.

Fuel system cutoff is at 6850 in 5th gear. With a little bit of fuel system modification and a new MAF, that will pull to 7K+ all day, the rods, pistons, and crank can easily handle that.

Couple that with all the other bolt ons and you should be scared. Despite that, even a Blower at 6 pounds on stock internals is going to make 550 horses.

I'm sorry but do YOUR research first, thanks.

[Camaro_hx]

Originally Posted by mustangman99

Lol your friends SS. I'm talking stock for stock. The 5.0 wins.

And I'm far from jealous. If I got offered my 99 Cobra or that POS shark looking thing you call a car. The Cobra would be gone so fast it would make your head spin.

And I would shut your mouth about your V6 because the new Duratec 3.7 in the 2011 Mustang V6 just put up 0-60 in 5.1 seconds and a quarter mile of 13.8@ 102mph.

Once again you lose.

I think you have a 9 Inch carrot stuck up your ass!

Anyway, cut the story short, the one thing that just proves the CAMARO is a leader to the MUSTANG is the bullish sales pattern of the 2010 Camaros for over 8 months straight.

Why...?
You KNOW the answer!

case closed.

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by mustangman99

I am here we are debating. The tone is negative and directed towards me.

I haven't called anyone names (okay the use of mullet a few times) I have presented my facts in a calm and rational manner.

I just think its hilarious to see you Camaro fanboys get all upset about this. Honestly you were on your high horse when the Camaro was beating the Mustang.

I guess you can dish it out but you can't take it.

That comment wouldn't be allowed in a debate, no facts and trying to force an emotional response. You wanna debate? Let's debate.

[bpmurr]

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

Quoting autoblog about anything substantively automotive is like consulting a little kid on the street about how awesome the power rangers are...they are far from professionals...

Yeah, I'm sure nobody at Camaro5 ever quoted a nice thing they had to say about the Camaro. It's funny how selective we become to who's opinions count and who's don't when it doesn't favor our car.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by mustangman99

Trust me there's more left in that motor than you think. Revised tuning can optimize camshaft profiles. The exhaust still can be modified. There's room for P&P of the heads. The factory cold air intake looks cool but won't flow as well as aftermarket systems.

Fuel system cutoff is at 6850 in 5th gear. With a little bit of fuel system modification and a new MAF, that will pull to 7K+ all day, the rods, pistons, and crank can easily handle that.

Couple that with all the other bolt ons and you should be scared. Despite that, even a Blower at 6 pounds on stock internals is going to make 550 horses.

I'm sorry but do YOUR research first, thanks.

Ummmmm...ok. Nice job proving nothing and saying nothing

I never said it wouldnt respond to mods, I said it wouldnt respond as well as an LS3...and it wont...and you have said nothing to prove otherwise.

BTW...Ill never be scared of a 5.0 when I have a 6.2.

The day that 5.0 makes 500 rwhp with long tubes, CAI, CAMS, and a tune while running pump gas ill bend over and kiss your ass.

[mustangman99]

Originally Posted by Camaro_h

I think you have a 9 Inch carrot stuck up your ass!

Anyway, cut the story short, the one thing that just proves the CAMARO is a leader to the MUSTANG is the bullish sales pattern of the 2010 Camaros for over 8 months straight.

Why...?
You KNOW the answer!

case closed.

Yes I know the answer: The 5.0L has been rumored to be in the works for a while. Hence the real enthusiasts are waiting for the 5.0L to come out. On top of that every Camaro fanboy in the world who has been waiting for the 5th gen to come out went out and bought one.

1. The new 5.0L will sell well.

2. The new 3.7L will swing buyers who don't have brand loyalty to the Mustang side, given its performance.

3. There won't be any fanboys left to buy the Camaro, because they will already have bought one.

Thanks

[mustangman99]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Ummmmm...ok. Nice job proving nothing and saying nothing

BTW...Ill never be scared of a 5.0 when I have a 6.2.

The day that 5.0 makes 500 rwhp with long tubes, CAI, CAMS, and a tune while running pump gas ill bend over and kiss your ass.

Then you better pucker up because its going to happen. Raising the rev limit and retuning it'll be close if not 500, so I wouldn't have said that if I were you.

[bpmurr]

Originally Posted by RedlineSS

LOL

Side note, I was bored to tears looking at the 11 Stang in the edmunds video. Looks so plain.

Maybe but then you have lots of options like this.