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Old 04-07-2010, 01:44 PM   #3109
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Sure is...when you have a moron driving the car you're trying make a case against.
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Old 04-07-2010, 01:47 PM   #3110
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You obviously are not a drag racer and it shows.
Indeed,

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108ft compared to 104 feet is not the same, performance wise, there is clearly a difference. 6 months ago the Camaro SS' braking was 105ft, BUT NOW some how the Brembos have seemed to have changed or worn to the point where the car's braking is now 108ft. That's hella significant in a damn comparison. I feel Motor Trend is seriously fixing these time for the Mustang's favor to make it appear better than it is.

They're going nuts because ....gasp...shock and awe, the new Mustang gets Brembo brakes too, "and the brakes work so much better on the Mustang than the Camaro", when in reality, that's far from true. If we look at the braking the Camaro first achieved compared to what they're claiming the Camaro has now achieved, you'll see, the braking on both cars the Mustang and Camaro are nearly dead even, one not significantly doing better than the other given the 200 pound weight difference.

Mustang 60-0 braking = 104ft
Camaro SS 60-0 braking =105ft.

But as far as the drag times in this new comparison, I asked a honest question because I didn't understand something. I wanted to know how the Mustang can trap the same speed as the Camaro "111.3 mph" and achieve a whopping "12.7", but when the Camaro SS in they're first comparison ran "111.0 MPH flat" it achieve a significantly lower drag time at 13 seconds. So basically, Motor Trend is telling us, .3mph can take a car from 13.0 flat at 111.0mph to 12.7 at 111.3 mph. That doesn't make sense. Something doesn't add up to me.

I can get through the quarter and score a 13.0 @111.0mph....but if I had .3 more mph "111.3" I could some how JUMP to 12.7 or for that matter 12.8 in my Camaro like the Mustang just did. That's my problem. The 2011 is the same kid on the block it's just that today he's driving a newer bike with better tires and brakes, but we're going to stack the chips in his favor because he's always been our favorite.
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god, it's not a conspiracy, on this day, in these conditions, with this Camaro SS and this Mustang GT they got these times. Get over it. The difference and acceleration is basically as simple as a different car and a different day and conditions. Take any car, compare 10 different reviews or comparisons, no 2 are going to get the exact smae braking, acceleraiont times, mph, etc, etc.

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Old 04-07-2010, 01:49 PM   #3111
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Old 04-07-2010, 01:51 PM   #3112
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You obviously are not a drag racer and it shows.

Hey buddy. Hey Hey!


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Old 04-07-2010, 01:53 PM   #3113
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Hey buddy. Hey Hey!


I live my life 1/4 mile at a time.
Just saying a little bit of track(1/4) time and he could answer his own questions.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:03 PM   #3114
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Rape.
More like setup. The Camaro's CLEARLY not even at half throttle. Would take a halfwit to think this race is legit.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:07 PM   #3115
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Would take a halfwit to think this race is legit.

Yeah and this suprises you why?
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:21 PM   #3116
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Sure is...when you have a moron driving the car you're trying make a case against.
Rape just the same
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:25 PM   #3117
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It was about as set-up as this.


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Old 04-07-2010, 02:35 PM   #3118
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lol this thread is so bad....
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:36 PM   #3119
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I don't legally see how they could, changing the rear gearing that much without changing anything else will effect gas mileage. Seems to me they would have to rate it differently... I know most cars will rate the automatic different than the manual, so why wouldn't they have to on rear gearing?

I worked with the epa and NHTSA on a certain project, and while it wasn't the focus of what we were doing it did invollve fuel economy and as such I can tell you from my own experience that the EPA does not require re-cert. for optional axle ratios. You certify with whatever the standard ratio is and that's it.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:41 PM   #3120
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, I was trying to figure the whole signature thing out, but it took me a second to get that you were representing yourself as something you are not.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:41 PM   #3121
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I worked with the epa and NHTSA on a certain project, and while it wasn't the focus of what we were doing it did invollve fuel economy and as such I can tell you from my own experience that the EPA does not require re-cert. for optional axle ratios. You certify with whatever the standard ratio is and that's it.
What if you were to change the tranny gearing? Do you know if that would require EPA re-cert?
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:42 PM   #3122
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, I was trying to figure the whole signature thing out, but it took me a second to get that you were representing yourself as something you are not.
He calls somebody else for doing it and then jumps right no to doing it himself.

Obvious troll is obvious
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