Torq Custom Mail Order Tune - V3.0 Results!!!

[Meister@Torq]

We had a car on the dyno this morning that already had a tune on it, but since that time we had finalized our 3rd revision of our custom mail order tunes and I wanted to see what the gains were. After returning the car back to stock with the SCT Xcalibrator, pulling the fuse (for those of you who still insist this is required) we made 3 back to back pulls and they were all within 3HP of each other.

After this, without any cool down, I loaded our Custom Mail Order tune for 93 octane (V3.0) and have picked up PEAK gains of 16rwhp and 21rwtq and MID RANGE gains of 35rwtq and 28rwhp.

[DSteck]

That thing must have pulled timing HARD on the stock tune at 4k.

[Meister@Torq]

Every single 6spd M car we have had on the dyno has the same power curve. There was only a few degrees of spark retarded cause by temperature and and "knock retard". We have found that the additional load on the car when using a loaded dyno will show these results (additional heat and load causing some "knock"). These are real world conditions

[DSteck]

I'm saying it had to have started pulling timing hard from knock to cause that 30hp power drop at 4000rpm. Definitely not typical for a clean run to drop off like that (and I'm not saying a stock tune is clean by any means ).

[Meister@Torq]

Originally Posted by DSteck

I'm saying it had to have started pulling timing hard from knock to cause that 30hp power drop at 4000rpm. Definitely not typical for a clean run to drop off like that (and I'm not saying a stock tune is clean by any means ).

Every single 2010 6spd M has done this on our dyno. What brand dyne's are you looking at?

I do not think you can state what is considered "clean" or "wrong". This is how the car came in and how all of the others have been run on our loaded dyno. The factory calibrations are JUNK

Every car we have done, stock has been hot off the street. The temperature with the additional load (because we do not use a dynojet) could cause the knock and spark retard. This is a fair comparison because I did not do ANY cool down's between the runs. It is simply calibration .vs. calibration. It takes 3min to put a tune on the car

[DSteck]

Originally Posted by Meister@Torq

The factory calibrations are JUNK

I know, I am agreeing with you. Sheesh... settle down. I'm well versed in how calibrating a car goes. People are always so on edge.

[Meister@Torq]

Originally Posted by DSteck

I know, I am agreeing with you. Sheesh... settle down. I'm well versed in how calibrating a car goes. People are always so on edge.

I am very settled and simply responding to your statements.

[2SSCAMARO]

Originally Posted by Meister@Torq

We had a car on the dyno this morning that already had a tune on it, but since that time we had finalized our 3rd revision of our custom mail order tunes and I wanted to see what the gains were. After returning the car back to stock with the SCT Xcalibrator, pulling the fuse (for those of you who still insist this is required) we made 3 back to back pulls and they were all within 3HP of each other.

After this, without any cool down, I loaded our Custom Mail Order tune for 93 octane (V3.0) and have picked up PEAK gains of 16rwhp and 21rwtq and MID RANGE gains of 35rwtq and 28rwhp.

I think the WOT AFR of 13+ is a wee bit too lean. I am not confortable with anything above 12.5 even though it may bump up the dyno numbers somewhat.

[Meister@Torq]

Originally Posted by 2SSCAMARO

I think the WOT AFR of 13+ is a wee bit too lean. I am not confortable with anything above 12.5 even though it may bump up the dyno numbers somewhat.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We have been tuning cars for 10+ years and trust our knowledge and skills.

Every engine is different and responds differently to both timing and fuel. We have found out how to make amazing power with optimal air fuel and timing combination's without harming the engine.

There is no safety issue whatsoever running an air fuel ratio high 12's and low 13's....and it actually only touches over 13 in a few spots in the lower end (2300, 3400, 3300). 4500rpm + there is not one point where it goes beyond 12.9

Even our own shop car that has had 90+ dyno runs, 100 1/4 mile runs, 10,000 street miles and 50 standing mile races has shown no signs of anything failing.

[ckaram]

Hey Meister, have you taken a run at the V6 yet?

[Meister@Torq]

Originally Posted by ckaram

Hey Meister, have you taken a run at the V6 yet?

Nope but I would love to