The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by firengnred

It's no surprise. Ford claims the mustang 5.0 is putting out 412 HP however, dyno pulls from various sources indicate 430-435 HP may be more accurate. The LS3 equipped Camaro is rated 422 HP and the L99 400 HP. Now, in these videos, you see a 412 HP (430-435) AUTO tranny mustang going against what as best I can tell appears to be an L99 equipped AUTO Camaro 400 HP. The mustang has an obvious power and weight advantage.

Both the Camaro and the Mustang are automatics in that video.

[alphaghost]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

Both the Camaro and the Mustang are automatics in that video.

Thats what was implied the l99 auto is putting out 400hp whereas the auto 5.0 is putting out SUPPOSEDLY 412hp when it may be 430plus. Instead they should have compared m6 to m6 trannys as well

[DiverNB]

Originally Posted by alphaghost

Thats what was implied the l99 auto is putting out 400hp whereas the auto 5.0 is putting out SUPPOSEDLY 412hp when it may be 430plus. Instead they should have compared m6 to m6 trannys as well

Would be a good race I think

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by firengnred

It's no surprise. Ford claims the mustang 5.0 is putting out 412 HP however, dyno pulls from various sources indicate 430-435 HP may be more accurate. The LS3 equipped Camaro is rated 422 HP and the L99 400 HP. Now, in these videos, you see a 412 HP (430-435) AUTO tranny mustang going against what as best I can tell appears to be an L99 equipped AUTO Camaro 400 HP. The mustang has an obvious power and weight advantage.

The 6speed automatic in the Mustang is brand new and developed in house..I wouldnt be shocked to find its loss to be less than what we drivers would consider normal.

My guess is the auto Mustangs will put down between 340 and 350 RWHP.

[Dentyneice]

I think it's the drivers especially when the 1/8th times were posted in that 2nd vid. My best 1/4 mile run was 13.17 showroom stock on a M6/SS with a 1/8th mile time of 8.63 seconds. The camaro in the 2nd vid ran a 8.86 so it was the driver and not the best run the cars can do.

M6/2SS model Camaros can do 12.9 on the 1/4 showroom stock which is faster than what I did.

[DiverNB]

Originally Posted by Dentyneice

I think it's the drivers especially when the 1/8th times were posted in that 2nd vid. My best 1/4 mile run was 13.17 showroom stock on a M6/SS with a 1/8th mile time of 8.63 seconds. The camaro in the 2nd vid ran a 8.86 so it was the driver and not the best run the cars can do.

M6/2SS model Camaros can do 12.9 on the 1/4 showroom stock which is faster than what I did.

The same could easily be said for the 'Stang, however.

[Dentyneice]

Just posted a reply for the 2nd vid.

"Just looked through some time slips and one Camaro driver ran a 8.912 1/8th with a 13.696 1/4 mile. No where near the rated 12.9s that it is capable of. The driver in the vid would have probably pulled a similar 1/4 mile time. As for the mustang driver, I saw a time slip for another Camaro with a time of 8.528 with a 1/4 mile time of 13.094. In either case. The mustang driver in this vid would have still beat my 13.17 1/4 - 8.63 1/8 time but you can see that it was definitely the drivers".

Just pointing out that it wasn't the best of the Camaro especially when comparing numbers to all the other time slips posted on this site.

[fielderLS3]

Can we all stop agonizing over the Mustang 5.0!?! Yes, the Mustang is (a little) faster than the Camaro. Better weight to power ratio. You can't argue against physics.

That being said, why does this matter so much? The two cars are not that far apart if launched properly, and the Camaro is still crazy fast. Both are excellent cars, and the stock for stock contest should come down to your own personal preference. That tenth of a second or two won't matter unless you race a lot, and if you race a lot, you are going to mod it anyway, rendering these comparisons pointless.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Dentyneice

I think it's the drivers especially when the 1/8th times were posted in that 2nd vid. My best 1/4 mile run was 13.17 showroom stock on a M6/SS with a 1/8th mile time of 8.63 seconds. The camaro in the 2nd vid ran a 8.86 so it was the driver and not the best run the cars can do.

M6/2SS model Camaros can do 12.9 on the 1/4 showroom stock which is faster than what I did.

And the numbers in the vid were not the best the Stang has done.

We can go around and around.

[justincase_2008]

Isnt the autos pullin better time then mans? u cant out shift a computer.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by justincase_2008

Isnt the autos pullin better time then mans? u cant out shift a computer.

Nope. The best times between the two are .3 tenths apart as of now. Ls3 12.58, L99 is 12.8x. L99 is down 26 hp and is lower on compression. Auto car is also 50lbs heavier. Auto tranny causes more drivetrain loss.

And MANY of the L99 cars have been shown to run sluggish from the factory without a fuse pull etc. due to dealers using 87 in the tanks off of the showroom.

[dmiller66]

It doesn't matter... the Camaro's looks are light years ahead of the Mustang.

[SGOS252382]

This has to be the 10th time this Video has been posted.

The guy driving the Camaro has no idea how to drag race.

[Deric884]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

Can we all stop agonizing over the Mustang 5.0!?! Yes, the Mustang is (a little) faster than the Camaro. Better weight to power ratio. You can't argue against physics.

That being said, why does this matter so much? The two cars are not that far apart if launched properly, and the Camaro is still crazy fast. Both are excellent cars, and the stock for stock contest should come down to your own personal preference. That tenth of a second or two won't matter unless you race a lot, and if you race a lot, you are going to mod it anyway, rendering these comparisons pointless.