2011 mustang v6 vs 2010-11 camaro v6

[nachocheese]

Originally Posted by swizz

I feel like there are a lot of non-owners chiming in on this debate in here which is where threads lose credibility. Regardless, I 'm gonna chime in again and just make my point:

For DRIVING experience, if I had to choose between the two cars, even as a proud 1SS/RS owner and haven driven a 1LT and 2LT Camaro virtually brand new last summer from Avis for about a month prior to purchasing my 1SS & test driving a Mustang 2 weeks ago, I'd have to say drumroll....


1. Ford Mustang V6
2. Camaro V6

AND if you have to add the Genesis Coupe into the equation and Dodge Challenger SE..

1. Genesis Coupe
2. Mustang
3. Camaro
4. Challenger


Simply put on driving alone, the Mustang just "FEELS" better behind the wheel. It feels more peppy and easier to control COMPARED to the Camaro but then when compared to the Genesis Coupe, the Mustang doesn't feel as nimble. The Challenger is like every Dodge I've driven from 300 to Charger... boat like feeling but smooth.

The Camaro whether you want to admit it or not has a weird field behind the steering wheel and sometimes just doesn't feel as fast as it reads. A part of that can be attributed to driving position but in my case even at 5'9, I'm forced to jack the seat up so I can get better visibilty in the car which I don't have to do in ANY other. Because of that, you always feel like your driving to "PROTECT" the car from blindspots rather than driving to DRIVE the car.

On exterior looks alone, I'd take any RS packaged Camaro LT or SS over anything any of these competitors have to offer. Cartoonish or not, it looks good, end of story. Now non RS packaged Camaro's look... OK but RS/SS is like PERFECTION period. You may think it's subtle but when you put both of them next to each other, you know right away.

So all the LT owners will likely need to well trick your car out, throw some rims, do whatever you got to do to make it stand out but in the end, RS/SS is an unbeatable combination in the looks department.

Now before I completely jump off topic.... Mustang is an ok car, but too many on the road, don't feel special, looks are sorta bland because there are just so many of them and they all look the same to me.

Camaro's always got that "DAMN that car is hot" look everytime you see one or when you drive it, heads ALWAYS turn. I can't EVER remember someone on the street going "WOAH look at that Ford Mustang..."

NEVER.

Camaro wins but only barely.

Are you saying you got to test drive a 2011 V6 Mustang 2 weeks ago? How did you manage that? I certainly hope you did, because if you are saying the 2010 V6 is quicker, I am calling BS on that. You make some reasonable points about driving impression on the Camaro. I'm not sure I follow how LT owners need to "trick out" their cars with rims to look as perfect as the RS/SS. The RS/LT cars look nearly identical to RS/SS cars except for the mail slot. Performance and sound are of course a different matter.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Jarhead

Are we talking 2011 base price, because the chevy site has this posted.

2010 Camaro
MSRP(1): Starting at
$22,680


That puts the Camaro 315 less than the stang.

The Ford site shows the 2011 V6 Mustang starting with a base price of $22,145.

Or $535 cheaper than the 2010 Camaro V6.

Maybe we have a price war going on. Awesome for the consumer.

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by nachocheese

Are you saying you got to test drive a 2011 V6 Mustang 2 weeks ago? How did you manage that? I certainly hope you did, because if you are saying the 2010 V6 is quicker, I am calling BS on that. You make some reasonable points about driving impression on the Camaro. I'm not sure I follow how LT owners need to "trick out" their cars with rims to look as perfect as the RS/SS. The RS/LT cars look nearly identical to RS/SS cars except for the mail slot. Performance and sound are of course a different matter.

x2!!

Not just the mail slot, but the stuck out chin spoiler on the SS is different then the LS/LT cars.

[Jarhead]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

The Ford site shows the 2011 V6 Mustang starting with a base price of $22,145.

Or $535 cheaper than the 2010 Camaro V6.

Maybe we have a price war going on. Awesome for the consumer.

This earlier post is what I was referencing:

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat
Camaro base MSRP: 23,530

Mustang base MSRP: 22,995

So the Camaro runs $535 more.

Thanks for checking the Ford Site. That should make it a little clearer.

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by swizz

I feel like there are a lot of non-owners chiming in on this debate in here which is where threads lose credibility. Regardless, I 'm gonna chime in again and just make my point:

For DRIVING experience, if I had to choose between the two cars, even as a proud 1SS/RS owner and haven driven a 1LT and 2LT Camaro virtually brand new last summer from Avis for about a month prior to purchasing my 1SS & test driving a Mustang 2 weeks ago, I'd have to say drumroll....


1. Ford Mustang V6
2. Camaro V6

AND if you have to add the Genesis Coupe into the equation and Dodge Challenger SE..

1. Genesis Coupe
2. Mustang
3. Camaro
4. Challenger


Simply put on driving alone, the Mustang just "FEELS" better behind the wheel. It feels more peppy and easier to control COMPARED to the Camaro but then when compared to the Genesis Coupe, the Mustang doesn't feel as nimble. The Challenger is like every Dodge I've driven from 300 to Charger... boat like feeling but smooth.

The Camaro whether you want to admit it or not has a weird field behind the steering wheel and sometimes just doesn't feel as fast as it reads. A part of that can be attributed to driving position but in my case even at 5'9, I'm forced to jack the seat up so I can get better visibilty in the car which I don't have to do in ANY other. Because of that, you always feel like your driving to "PROTECT" the car from blindspots rather than driving to DRIVE the car.

On exterior looks alone, I'd take any RS packaged Camaro LT or SS over anything any of these competitors have to offer. Cartoonish or not, it looks good, end of story. Now non RS packaged Camaro's look... OK but RS/SS is like PERFECTION period. You may think it's subtle but when you put both of them next to each other, you know right away.

So all the LT owners will likely need to well trick your car out, throw some rims, do whatever you got to do to make it stand out but in the end, RS/SS is an unbeatable combination in the looks department.

Now before I completely jump off topic.... Mustang is an ok car, but too many on the road, don't feel special, looks are sorta bland because there are just so many of them and they all look the same to me.

Camaro's always got that "DAMN that car is hot" look everytime you see one or when you drive it, heads ALWAYS turn. I can't EVER remember someone on the street going "WOAH look at that Ford Mustang..."

NEVER.

Camaro wins but only barely.

Like it or not, "non owners" will have an impact on sales because we will also express an opinion to people about the cars when they're thinking about buying one. Non owners also provide a different point of view beyond the retarded frantic fanboy masturbation that would happen if the discussion was only limited to Camaro and Mustang owners.

Eventually, when production has been up and running at full tilt long enough, the 5th Gen Camaro will be common. The reason why you see 1st Gen Camaro's turning heads is because they're classic muscle. Classic muscle always turns heads, be it Ford, Mopar or GM. Cruise a 68 Charger R/T with a 440 or 426 down the street and you'll get just as many, if not more gawkers and compliments (because it IS more rare).

Now this is NOT (NOT NOT NOT) a bash on the 4th and 3rd Generation Camaro's, I'm putting that bright and clear right now. Unless you see a car that is very unique, they dont turn heads. 3rd Generation's have a trailer park (undeserved) reputation and are more often than not the object of mockery and scorn. The 4th generation cars are very common and, as I said, unless they are very stand out they do not turn heads anymore.

Eventually the 5th generation Camaro will become just like the 05-09 Mustang and 06-present Charger. A nice, but common car that is seen often. A very stand-out car will still turn heads, but it doesnt matter if it is a RS/SS..in time it wont stand out.

Challengers, Pontiac G8's (especially G8's) and other low volume cars will by nature get more attention because there are always going to be less of them, either due to low production or END of the brand (G8). If you bought a Camaro thinking it was always going to be unique looking and rare, then you really bought the wrong car, I'm sorry.

In the performance and affordability department, the 2011 Mustang beats the 2010/11 Camaro. Looks and "style" are subjective and better left to be determined by their mutual owners.

[cnjsanchez]

I think Ford and Chevy are in it together. What's better for the both of them is to compete with each other. They allow each other to out do the other for one year then it's the other's turn. Which gets all the die hard Ford and Chevy fans bickering about whose better. Great for their sales if you ask me. That's what I would do if I ran one of those companies anyways.

[esperman]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Who cares with stats these close? Its really a drivers race. And the V6 Camaro is most definitely capable of high 13s BONE stock, it just needs a good driver. never trust those cars mags, their times rarely hold up in the real world.

well it's certainly capable of low 14's stock.....not too sure of 13 without MODS

[swizz]

I should have been a little bit more clear about LT vs SS appearance wise....

1) Ride Height
2) Front Bumper
3) Faux Hood Scoop


LT owners may think it's not that big a deal in appearance and thus subtle and acceptable....

I've been fortunate enough to see people begin to mod their LT's out in my area with aftermarket wheels etc. The ride height is killing the looks on the LT. You can put 22's and it just looks funny/odd without dropping the car.

Now the front bumper of the SS with scoop is flat out more aggressive and better looking imo than the LT. It's NOT to say that the LT looks bad, no way. But when compared to an SS, it's a big difference appearance wise. Kinda like SRT8 Chargers to their base models etc.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by swizz

I should have been a little bit more clear about LT vs SS appearance wise....

1) Ride Height
2) Front Bumper
3) Faux Hood Scoop


LT owners may think it's not that big a deal in appearance and thus subtle and acceptable....

I've been fortunate enough to see people begin to mod their LT's out in my area with aftermarket wheels etc. The ride height is killing the looks on the LT. You can put 22's and it just looks funny/odd without dropping the car.

Now the front bumper of the SS with scoop is flat out more aggressive and better looking imo than the LT. It's NOT to say that the LT looks bad, no way. But when compared to an SS, it's a big difference appearance wise. Kinda like SRT8 Chargers to their base models etc.

Personally, I think 22's make a car look funny regardless of the ride height

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Personally, I think 22's make a car look funny regardless of the ride height

Definitely

[nachocheese]

Originally Posted by swizz

I should have been a little bit more clear about LT vs SS appearance wise....

1) Ride Height
2) Front Bumper
3) Faux Hood Scoop


LT owners may think it's not that big a deal in appearance and thus subtle and acceptable....

I've been fortunate enough to see people begin to mod their LT's out in my area with aftermarket wheels etc. The ride height is killing the looks on the LT. You can put 22's and it just looks funny/odd without dropping the car.

Now the front bumper of the SS with scoop is flat out more aggressive and better looking imo than the LT. It's NOT to say that the LT looks bad, no way. But when compared to an SS, it's a big difference appearance wise. Kinda like SRT8 Chargers to their base models etc.

The Chevy website lists the overall height for the LT and the SS as 54.2. You sure the SS rides lower? http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/features-specs/
As for the mail slot, I'm glad you like how it looks. I've never cared for simulated performance features. In regards to the front bumper, I agree the SS is more aggressive, although I disagree that anyone that is not very familiar with the car would notice the difference. I'm not hating on the SS, I would love to have one. My point is that I would love to have it for the performance and sound, not because the look is better.

I don't care for 22's for the same reason I don't like ground effects. You take a very heavy car and add weight to it just for looks. Not my cup of tea.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Jarhead

Are we talking 2011 base price, because the chevy site has this posted.

2010 Camaro
MSRP(1): Starting at
$22,680


That puts the Camaro 315 less than the stang.

You are not including destination whereas the Mustang price does

[esperman]

Originally Posted by nachocheese

The Chevy website lists the overall height for the LT and the SS as 54.2. You sure the SS rides lower? http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/features-specs/
As for the mail slot, I'm glad you like how it looks. I've never cared for simulated performance features. In regards to the front bumper, I agree the SS is more aggressive, although I disagree that anyone that is not very familiar with the car would notice the difference. I'm not hating on the SS, I would love to have one. My point is that I would love to have it for the performance and sound, not because the look is better.

I don't care for 22's for the same reason I don't like ground effects. You take a very heavy car and add weight to it just for looks. Not my cup of tea.

I think the SS sits about 1" lower.

[stlrammer]

So is the real comparison 2010 Camaro 312 HP and 2011 Mustang 305 HP? I think you guys have the weight deltas spot on.