11-11-2008, 03:01 PM | #57 |
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I'm wishing the Camaro was a little lighter too actually. I'm not saying that it should weigh like under 3,000 lbs or anything but it could at least weigh a few hundred lbs less. At least weigh no more than a 04-06 GTO, or a current gen Mustang GT...
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11-11-2008, 04:25 PM | #59 |
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No manufacturer can produce a car for the masses and still give them all that they want. If you want it lighter, push some aftermarket companies to produce light body panels, carbon fiber components, and do some weight reduction on your own.
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Just to clarify -- a lighter car -- of course. I don't think anyone would complain if GM announced that they miscalculated the weight and it actually weighs 3200 lbs. I am not going to complain about it either way. What I was about to go ballistic over is when people started suggesting that we compromise our modern muscle car design to shave some weight. For those people, please refer to my previous post about the monster miata.
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I had always owned GM vehicles, but I disliked the gen3 Camaros and hated the styling (inside and out) of the gen4 Camaros. The lousy gen4 Camaro styling actually caused me to buy a Mustang SVT Cobra in 1996. The 2010 gen5 Camaro is terrific just as it is. And there is already a post here on Camaro5 where Fbodfather noted that the weight is a result of many things like government mandated equipment that can't be changed.
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This should satisfy the weight issues.
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The Camaro weighs ~3850 lbs. That isn't light by any stretch of the imagination. But lets say that we shrunk the Camaro by 10% in every dimension, it should drop in weight by 10% too. Well no it won't. Shrinking dimensions won't change the weight of the engine, tranny, or suspension which combine to over 1000 lbs (est). After that there might be another few hundred pounds of items that will weigh the same regardless of external dimensions: seats, stereo, etc. After that, things break down to being more or less a function of area. Shrinking it down won't save more than 100 lbs. I'd guess maybe 50. I copied half of that from another post, relating to making the C7 Corvette lighter, but the principle applies to the Camaro. I took this from another post that I made in January: As far as cars getting heavier, the new honda civic weighs slightly less than the accord did 15 years ago. since then the accord has put on about 500 lbs. By adding safety and comfort features, cars will get heavier. Power this, that, and the other thing get heavy. things like side impact beams add weight, and so do good stereo systems. I'm sure that a bunch of airbags will add a few pounds too, not much but still its there. All of this adds up to a few hundred pounds and its nearly impossible to make a volume car without most of these items. Lastly (in case anyone missed it the first time), check my sig
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I just don't get why the Camaro, and the Challenger have to weigh nearly 4000 lbs? I've driven an 05 Pontiac GTO, and it's a pretty quick car. BUT it didn't feel "quick" to me at the same time, again I'm not saying that it isn't quick but you can almost feel the weight, and even with it weighing in around 3,725 lbs just a little less and obviously about 22hp less vs the Camaro SS. If that's how the Camaro SS feels then I won't be too impressed. I don't plan on buying a Camaro any time soon now anyways, but personally I'm thinking it's going to be too heavy for my tastes anyways. But hey it's a 2+2 seater, not like it's a 2 seater like a Corvette or something so I do understand that....
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Now we are backpedaling to “nip tuck”. Still I say leave it alone – it is awesome the way that it is. Pull out the passenger seats and go on a diet if you want to shed some weight.
Beyond that – and as the title of this thread mentions – there are people suggesting to shave 10% off the dimensions just to shed weight. Makes me sick to think about it. Taking 10% from the length and the width dimensions, that leaves you with: Width = 67.95 in. Length = 171 in. Compare that to the mousestang: Width = 67.95 Length = 187.6 Ref. the squished Vette pic above. Regardless, and as others have already said, it isn’t going to happen for the 2010. Thank God because the idea of trimming down our new muscle car makes me sick. |
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Well I guess there's no point in discussing the matter with people have an insecurity about anything being smaller and believe bigger can only mean better and better can only mean bigger.
Also, who is back-peddling? I've said all along that a nip-and-tuck could do for the future. And no where did the OP ask for 10% in each direction, just 10% overall. Imagine a scale model. It has the exact same proportions, stance, everything, but it is smaller overall. Now just imagine the same thing at 9/10ths (though I will admit 10% is a bit much).
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