You may hate this thread, but I'm starting to HATE my Camaro!

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by 2Muchmark

You know, I may just go for it.

Send me an email with your contact info. I'll take some pictures and send them to you. It has about 7,000 kilometers on it. Not winter driven of course, and all original (no mods of any kind). The left back wheel has a scratch though (I scraped it against a curb). I own the car outright (no financing or lease) so I could be ready to make a deal.

Well psshhh. I was talking about taking it for free.

But seriously man, if you're feeling that guilty about it, then go ahead and sell it. Just don't expect us to understand why.

[PoorMansCamaro]

[shinzon]

well....I understand your view point, all of them...from the nerd who wants to sell his SS to the greed hater.

But the bottom line is nothing is going to change.

I was at the super-market and saw all the eco good guys bringing their own bags and said " boy maybe I should bring my own bags , then I said .....why freaking bother"
and asked for plastic bags. Nothing I do makes a difference on any level.

People as a whole mean well, and if it mattered I would use my own bags but it doesn't NOT when such GROSS events occur such as the OIL SPill. The thing is still just bleeding into the gulf and BP and US GOV have about as much intent on this as a WWF Referee.

People work hard , theirs 401ks got blasted, Homes devauled, Jobs lost, work outsourced to iNDIA ETC, illegal aliens everywhere, property taxes up the wazoo, enviroment is fubar and I should bring my own bags to the supermarket. hmmm

I like my Camaro, maybe soon I won't be able to afford it any more, economically, and ecologically.

What did I do wrong ? I am a citizen, like you and OUR actions don't add up to a pile worth shit. Prove me wrong.

[2Muchmark]

Originally Posted by motorhead

It's all good. Just a friendly talk about energy. I do believe we need something new ,but only so we don't have to get our energy from people that don't like us. To me the "geen" energies that we have today are just a political ploy. There are other things that would work better that are not popular so they don't invest in them. I'm in the energy business and can see first hand how this game works. It's all about power and money and not saving our enviroment.

[MikeL]

Originally Posted by motorhead

It's all good. Just a friendly talk about energy. I do believe we need something new ,but only so we don't have to get our energy from people that don't like us. To me the "geen" energies that we have today are just a political ploy. There are other things that would work better that are not popular so they don't invest in them. I'm in the energy business and can see first hand how this game works. It's all about power and money and not saving our enviroment.

Thats for sure. Everything in America is turned into business, which is what makes this country great because we do get competition when its needed. I see the "green" movement as; like you said, a way to get our hands out of the OPEC and other oil nations and keep money in the U.S. where it belongs.

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by motorhead

It's all good. Just a friendly talk about energy. I do believe we need something new ,but only so we don't have to get our energy from people that don't like us. To me the "geen" energies that we have today are just a political ploy. There are other things that would work better that are not popular so they don't invest in them. I'm in the energy business and can see first hand how this game works. It's all about power and money and not saving our enviroment.

It's not about buying energy from people that don't like us... it's about the energy itself !!!! Oil does have a negative impact on this planet

[chevydude26]

Originally Posted by 2Muchmark

You know, I may just go for it.

Send me an email with your contact info. I'll take some pictures and send them to you. It has about 7,000 kilometers on it. Not winter driven of course, and all original (no mods of any kind). The left back wheel has a scratch though (I scraped it against a curb). I own the car outright (no financing or lease) so I could be ready to make a deal.

Now I know you've got psychological issues. Or your a major bs'er. I don't care if you think the car is cursed u just don't give away 35000 dollars. If you were for real you would sell it and then donate the money to Al Gore's climate scam or some tree hugging organization.

Woops saw that you said deal. Thought u were giving it for free

[2Muchmark]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Well psshhh. I was talking about taking it for free.

But seriously man, if you're feeling that guilty about it, then go ahead and sell it. Just don't expect us to understand why.

You don't have to understand or care. I simply brought up a topic for discussion.

[fireresq157]

Originally Posted by Muscle Master

Why is everyone being F#cking assholes about the subject

I agree ... nothing much we can do at this point. Until something better comes along... Humans rely oil for various things we as a society depend on

Rather you care or not.... CO2 is deteriorating this planet

BTW ... how is the OP a troll

Y"all are so F#ucking dense sometimes

no need for that language btw nice car how much was the gas guzzler tax?

[ravensjeff]

No sense in beating a dead horse here- OP may need one to get back n forth to work.

[shinzon]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Well psshhh. I was talking about taking it for free.

But seriously man, if you're feeling that guilty about it, then go ahead and sell it. Just don't expect us to understand why.

I don't expect anyone to understand anything.

[MikeL]

Originally Posted by 2Muchmark

Not sure about this... the infrastructure required is huge, and the carbon footprint to make Hydrogen is huge too. Are we really trading up if we go to Hydrogen? (President Bush was behind it so I'm pretty sure there's a little Haliburton reach-around going on there somewhere..)

Actually it depends on your method of production. Currently the mass production methods of hydrogen are very polluting yes, but some promising methods are there. Whats wrong with a huge infrastructure overhaul? That means jobs at home in lots of different areas.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by motorhead

It's all good. Just a friendly talk about energy. I do believe we need something new ,but only so we don't have to get our energy from people that don't like us. To me the "geen" energies that we have today are just a political ploy. There are other things that would work better that are not popular so they don't invest in them. I'm in the energy business and can see first hand how this game works. It's all about power and money and not saving our enviroment.

Agreed. I support cars like the Volt not because of the "green" factor but because it'll save people money.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Muscle Master

Why is everyone being F#cking assholes about the subject

I agree ... nothing much we can do at this point. Until something better comes along... Humans rely oil for various things we as a society depend on

Rather you care or not.... CO2 is deteriorating this planet

BTW ... how is the OP a troll

Y"all are so F#ucking dense sometimes

Because the op isn't making any sense. Why would he feel bad about driving his car, but not feel bad about anything else he does to hurt the environment?