2010 Camaro Pricing for Canada Announced

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by Maddog78

Thanks, man.
I had planned to sell my car and bank the extra money but I'm not sure now.
Here's a pic. It's a 2005.

Nice car but...Yeah, get rid of it.. You'll love the Camaro SS so much more as it has a hottness not even a porsche can touch..

[Hylton]

Guys,

I have created a spreadsheet to fairly compare the CDN price to US. When yesterdays exchange rate is taken into account, the CDN price is almost the same price as the US price. You cannot blame GM for the exchange rate. The only thing that is bad is the destination charge which is 65% more. I will update this spreadsheet when we get the RPO prices.

[The Great KJ]

Originally Posted by RetroDude

I'm kind of worried about the pricing difference since I looked at the pricing of some options between US and Canadian vehicles.

Examples: 2009 Chev Impala SS

Sunroof ............. US $ 900 ... Canada $ 1,340 ... + 32.8%
Body Side Mold.... US $ 100 ... CANADA $ 145 ..... + 31.0%
Red Jewel Paint... US $ 295 ... Canada $ 380 ...... + 22.4%

I'd certainly like to know why GM feels justified in charging us these rediculous prices and then tell us one price has a higher markup over the others???

It should simply be US $ + 10% or 15% max NOT 30+%

I.E.: Sunroof US $900 = Canada $990 @ 10% - $1,035 @ 15%

ALL OPTIONS SHOULD BE AT THE SAME MARKUP TO THE :flag2: MSRP !!!

Pretty sad when they are being made in Canada! Guess our Northern friends may resort to what our Southern friends have been doing for years with SUV's and Honda Accords, lol

[trm0002]

Originally Posted by TJ91

yeah im having some difficult with the emoticons, btw, i see that you changed it to Winnepeg now, lol you'll get your SS, ..doesnt your GT run 0-60 in 5.4? that would beat me you know, maybe not Hylton, Hylton will respond saying..ILL SMOKE YOU lol but anyways i want to arrange a huge meet up, think with would be cool, Camaro5- The North meets the South, imagine we all met up in Buffalo/New York one year, then toronto the next, and then another us state, and then another Canadian province, that would be a great abual car meet

Originally Posted by BLACK67

I have been thinking the same thing, a dozen new Camaros assembled in one place then a lengthy tour. I think you would have some heads turning. lol

I'm in. Pretty much a no-brainer considering I live there. Got just the place for all the cars to pre-meet and organize near the Peace Bridge- Lasalle Park. Honestly, lots of places to actually hold a meet including the GM Powertrain facility. Somehow I think they would welcome a meet... Then we can all covertly go to some bar and hide our cars in the parking lot...

[RetroDude]

Originally Posted by Hylton

Guys,

I have created a spreadsheet to fairly compare the CDN price to US. When yesterdays exchange rate is taken into account, the CDN price is almost the same price as the US price. You cannot blame GM for the exchange rate. The only thing that is bad is the destination charge which is 65% more. I will update this spreadsheet when we get the RPO prices.

Hylton, Yes, I agree that GM is not to blame solely about the current exchange rate we're experiencing here, however, the performance rating of the auto industry as a whole ( of which GM is partly responsible ) is one of the reasons that our dollar has taken such a dive over the past month. If the auto industry was doing well, then I'm sure our dollar would still be up in the .95 cents range ( if not higher ) when compared to the US $. My point being here is if our price is only based on the current exchange rate of our dollar, then why is it that GM took over a month longer to come up with our pricing? Back on Oct 13th when the US price was announced our dollar was trading around the .90 Cents level, which would've made the rate 1.10 x US$, but if you use the yearly average, which GM should've done to be fair, then the rate should've been 1:1 since our dollar was pretty much par with the US for most of the year. To me, it seems that GM of Canada doesn't much like or appreciate Canadians if it took them and extra month longer to decide to use the lowest dollar value as a rating system and charge us a rediculous high $1400 for destination even now that gas prices have dropped to 84.5 cents / litre from the summer highes of $1.30 / ltr. Sorry, but $750 ( $920 CAN ) is a steal IMO to ship anywhere in the US and $1400 is more like a raping of us Canadians. $1,000 should be the highest any vehicle should be charged to ship in Canada and $780 should be the highest in the US.

If GM uses your guesstimate of 1.2247 to decide pricing of the options ( RPO's ) that would be one thing, however, it is common place for GM to take more popular options such as Automatics and Sunroofs and charge an outrageous 30% or more above the US $ then tell us that it's perfectly fair!

I'll wait till Monday to find out what the RPO's will cost, but am fully expecting to see another raping here by GM ! 20 - 35% is what I'm expecting over US$ Just look at the Impala and compare... We gonna get screwed again!

I wished I qualified for the discounts ( Employee / Family or Supplier ) like many others here, however, I am not as fortunate.... $40,000 + Taxes is all I can afford so when a 1SS @ $36,995 + $1,400 + $1,500 ( est. ) for Automatic comes out to $39,895... that's pretty much it for me ! ... add taxes of 13% and it becomes $45,081.35 ... No RS, 4-pack, sunroof, etc.....

Funny how the SS's are marked up 22 & 23%, but GM decided only to mark the LT's up 17 & 19%? .. are they trying to tell us something? ... Like buy more LT's perhaps!

[OUR72GTO]

The optics on this is really bad. GM Canada appears to believe the world did not change with the impact of the financial crashes this last 2 months. Maybe they delayed pricing (remember this car is made here, if they can price it for 50 states, what's so hard about a market the size of California) to see if things improved. They did not! Our dollar is expected to return to near par within a few months (about the time they ship these). Will they lower the price them.? No I don't think so !!! The Canadian dollar actually should be at 1.05 for all the reasons it was 1.10 this time last year. We are not in crisis up here and the US buck only strengthened as the demand for greenbacks went up to pay off the stock market loans and bonds of the little guys. When that eases off our dollar is forecast to be back to .95. To be fare to their Canadian dealers and the consumer they should take the average over 12 months and we could accept that. Unfortunaley they know we accepted a 40% up-charge over the 4 years before this past one. Remember that is why more than 60,000 vehicles were imported thru RIV last year in just one month alone.

They seem to believe their own hype now ... but what will happen when they fill the initial enthusiast surge of orders and then the USA dealer stock starts to sit on the floor in a depressed economy? Rebates !!!

BTW Honda Canada does not charge 1400 to ship a car the same size.

[DGthe3]

The Canadian dollar went up with the price of oil, and then dropped with the price of oil. It had little to do with the auto industry. And the Canadian car market is down a couple percentage points, which is 1/10 the drop that the US auto industry has had. The Canadian economy is doing well relative to the others. Credit hasn't evaporated up here like it has in the states. And with the current exchange rates, we are in line with the US pricing. The only unexplained problem is the destination charge.

[SQUALO]

I'm still having a hard time digesting these prices After you outfit it to your liking (including dest. etc.) and with no apparent incentive discounts mentioned, it's getting right up there in price. The worst part of it is that I priced a 1SS with a some options and the price is getting extremely close to a 2009 vette, that I priced, which included incentive discounts.

GM CANADA needs to really give their head a shake and stop taking advantage of the GOOD, NON JUDGEMENTAL CANADIAN! I GUESS THE GENERAL (ON THIS SIDE OF THE BOARDER) WANT'S TO USE US AS THE SCAPEGOAT FOR THE COMPANY GOING UNDER!

[trm0002]

Originally Posted by SQUALO

I'm still having a hard time digesting these prices After you outfit it to your liking (including dest. etc.) and with no apparent incentive discounts mentioned, it's getting right up there in price. The worst part of it is that I priced a 1SS with a some options and the price is getting extremely close to a 2009 vette, that I priced, which included incentive discounts.

GM CANADA needs to really give their head a shake and stop taking advantage of the GOOD, NON JUDGEMENTAL CANADIAN! I GUESS THE GENERAL (ON THIS SIDE OF THE BOARDER) WANT'S TO USE US AS THE SCAPEGOAT FOR THE COMPANY GOING UNDER!

No, they want to show you that the UAW exists on both sides of the border- in ALL the plants...

[camarorick]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The Canadian dollar went up with the price of oil, and then dropped with the price of oil. It had little to do with the auto industry. And the Canadian car market is down a couple percentage points, which is 1/10 the drop that the US auto industry has had. The Canadian economy is doing well relative to the others. Credit hasn't evaporated up here like it has in the states. And with the current exchange rates, we are in line with the US pricing. The only unexplained problem is the destination charge.

In a few months time, our dollar is going to be stronger than it is right now.

[trm0002]

Originally Posted by camarorick

In a few months time, our dollar is going to be stronger than it is right now.

They used to say that 10 years ago when I was getting 34% off lap dances

[fredi91]

mark up for a 2010 Camaro 2SS is 10.4%.

at this point GM has not indicated any 'cash credits' or long term financing on this car when it hits our lots. i would suspect that it will be on an exempt list for the first little while of any incentives or employee/supplier purchase programs. Much like the ZR1 is exempt from all current GM incentives; we are expecting the Camaro to be the same.

as for freight charges being $1,400 for ontario customers, which is the same for BC consumers...the reasoning is simple; if they had differenting prices for the provinces (or distance away from the plant) they don't want a flood of dealers/customers from those other provinces routing their deals through the toronto area dealerships just to save on the freight charge.

i'm not agreeing with the $1400 vs $750 in the USA, i'm just giving the reason for the 'averaged' price for all canadian dealers.

all things considered, we're content with the pricing of the Camaro - we were prepping our customers to expect an under $50,000 tag for a loaded 2SS and it looks like we're going to be correct. and for the most part, every deal that we've done, those customers have expected that same range as well.

as for pricing in general, GM has NEVER been consistent with the fluctuation of the dollar; and they insist there is no correlation between the two as they do not want to keep changing the MSRP's when the canadian dollar goes up or down vs that of the USA. there are obviously other contributing factors behind the scenes, but GM has never been able to give a straight forward answer to us on that.

i don't agree with the pricing difference between us and the USA, but what's done is done. as stated in previous posts, we're hoping the individual option prices are within reason compared to our other chevy products.

as for ordering, each of the dealers across canada should have their first 6 months of production known to them. from there no one knows what to expect. no canadian dealer can actually place the order to the factory yet, all we can do is accept orders from the customers and wait until the 'order banks' open up... hopefully in december but more likely early january.

there is tonnes of excitement pent up for this car - and some diasappointment. customers will determine themselves whether or not the MSRP is acceptable and if they want to be one of the first to own one on their block. after that, those that aren't happy with the MSRP's will wait until dealer stock build up and dealers begin to discount; or worse, GM rethinks their pricing strategy and announces a cash incentive. but regardless of who you are - a price shopper or a product shopper, i'm sure GM will not disappoint (you might have to wait a while if your a price shopper to be happy though).

at the end of the day, we can't wait to have this amazing car sitting on our showroom floor and in your driveways!

[crazz28]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The Canadian dollar went up with the price of oil, and then dropped with the price of oil. It had little to do with the auto industry. And the Canadian car market is down a couple percentage points, which is 1/10 the drop that the US auto industry has had. The Canadian economy is doing well relative to the others. Credit hasn't evaporated up here like it has in the states. And with the current exchange rates, we are in line with the US pricing. The only unexplained problem is the destination charge.

Agreed, the Canadian economy is based mostly on commodities. Oil is down, grain is down, potash, base metals, uranium, etc is all down, therefor, dollar is down. The failures in the US have caused places like China to slow down development that require raw materials from Canada. Until places like that get their economy going again I don't see our dollar reaching par or even mid 90's.
I just hope the options come out proper, there's no reason for them to be marked up an extreme amount.

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by fredi91

mark up for a 2010 Camaro 2SS is 10.4%.

Hey this is great info! Are you saying that the dealer invoice is roughly 36.5K for the 2SS?