V6 Cami VS V6 Genesis..LOL

[PoorMansCamaro]

also, the 4 banger turbo genesis > v6 genesis...

[Z/28orSs]

Originally Posted by OverZeaLouS

I'm sorry but a V6 on a camaro is like Tits on a Bull. That's not muscle. 304hp engine is not muscle. Direct injection is not muscle. Its performance. That being said, the camaro is the one faking the jack on the strip with that v6. I always hated the fact of muscle cars making slow azz v6's cuz they aren't muscle. And anyone buying a v6 camaro might have as well went for the gold n got less weight, tighter handling and better overall performance in a gen coupe.
The V8, that's a different story. Its not to be compared with comparablle priced performance such as nissan infiniti. That has to be compared to its muscular cousins. The mustang and challenger. When you buy a Z, you are buyin 1g skidpad performace. The camaro, you are getting good handling for a big car but a monster engine and insane modding capability.
Its funny how some say they shouldn't compare a genesis v6 to a camaro v6. Honestly, its the other way around. Leave the muscle to the v8 and the performance to the v6. Which the camaro v6 lacks the performance by comparison.

Lastly, while camaros v8 is king. 2011 mustang v6 is the closest to making a respectful v6 muscle car. 0-60 in 5.3 seconds and the quarter in 13.5 is no joke. Camaros 6.2/14.3 is laughable by comparison. 2011 mustang borders true muscle times. And is on the better end of performance times. Now if mustang can put an independant suspension like the camaro or if camaro can be tuned to be more like the mustang engine. Maybe v6 muscle might have a fighting chance as muscle-performance hybrid.

That's the unbiased rationalization right there.

WHAT?


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[2SSARMY]

Originally Posted by green man

426 HP is barely enough to get this pig rolling, I can't imagine 305 doing the trick...

Hahaha. Sorry Mr. I drive TT Cobras with 900rwhp. Seriously? If you don't think 305hp is enough you must have a very bad perception of power.

[2SSARMY]

Originally Posted by green man

Why? What would be the joke?

The Genesis coupe was designed around the V6 it has, the Camaro was designed around the V8 and the V6 is just an after thought...or at least I hope GM didn't design a 4000lb sports coupe around a V6.

The Genesis is a nice looking purpose built car that compares nicely to the G35c.

Maybe the face palm is on you? I dislike the V6 Camaro as much as I dislike the V6 Mustang, cars for posers and wives IMO. If your opinion is different that's cool, buy what you like and like what you buy.

lol really c'mon man. Posers? I bet that STS v6 maro would smoke you 30 ways up and down.

If you really want to have a measuring contest, why'd you get the cheap 1ss and not the 2ss, Mr. supreme?

***In no way am I dissing 1SS owners, just implying his own logic***

[camarowa]

Originally Posted by green man

Why? What would be the joke?

The Genesis coupe was designed around the V6 it has, the Camaro was designed around the V8 and the V6 is just an after thought...or at least I hope GM didn't design a 4000lb sports coupe around a V6.

The Genesis is a nice looking purpose built car that compares nicely to the G35c.

Maybe the face palm is on you? I dislike the V6 Camaro as much as I dislike the V6 Mustang, cars for posers and wives IMO. If your opinion is different that's cool, buy what you like and like what you buy.

Nothing like trying to pump up your self image on the internet. Sad, very sad.

[Maurdib]

Originally Posted by green man

Why? What would be the joke?

The Genesis coupe was designed around the V6 it has, the Camaro was designed around the V8 and the V6 is just an after thought...or at least I hope GM didn't design a 4000lb sports coupe around a V6.

The Genesis is a nice looking purpose built car that compares nicely to the G35c.

Maybe the face palm is on you? I dislike the V6 Camaro as much as I dislike the V6 Mustang, cars for posers and wives IMO. If your opinion is different that's cool, buy what you like and like what you buy.

Man I'm glad I don't live my life atempting to please fools like you, and being called a poser by a pure idiot well, I'm cool with that.

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by OverZeaLouS

I'm sorry but a V6 on a camaro is like Tits on a Bull. That's not muscle. 304hp engine is not muscle. Direct injection is not muscle. Its performance. That being said, the camaro is the one faking the jack on the strip with that v6. I always hated the fact of muscle cars making slow azz v6's cuz they aren't muscle. And anyone buying a v6 camaro might have as well went for the gold n got less weight, tighter handling and better overall performance in a gen coupe.
The V8, that's a different story. Its not to be compared with comparablle priced performance such as nissan infiniti. That has to be compared to its muscular cousins. The mustang and challenger. When you buy a Z, you are buyin 1g skidpad performace. The camaro, you are getting good handling for a big car but a monster engine and insane modding capability.
Its funny how some say they shouldn't compare a genesis v6 to a camaro v6. Honestly, its the other way around. Leave the muscle to the v8 and the performance to the v6. Which the camaro v6 lacks the performance by comparison.

Lastly, while camaros v8 is king. 2011 mustang v6 is the closest to making a respectful v6 muscle car. 0-60 in 5.3 seconds and the quarter in 13.5 is no joke. Camaros 6.2/14.3 is laughable by comparison. 2011 mustang borders true muscle times. And is on the better end of performance times. Now if mustang can put an independant suspension like the camaro or if camaro can be tuned to be more like the mustang engine. Maybe v6 muscle might have a fighting chance as muscle-performance hybrid.

That's the unbiased rationalization right there.

Tool. That's what you are.

Originally Posted by Bails

The 0-60 and 1/4 mile times vary depending on what magazine you're reading so you can't get to picky about those, but I like where you're head is at pointing out OverZeaLouS's flawed logic. Here's some more problems.

6) As Belarus pointed out they are pony cars. A lot of people call them muscle cars regardless so we'll move on from that. Where I have a problem is your idea of muscle vs performance. Is muscle not about performance? Is the V8 in the muscle car not there for it's performance? Is modding not muscle because it adds performance?
7) The "slow azz V6's" are necessary for sales, the Mustang and Camaro wouldn't survive without them.
8) Why does hyundai make a "slow azz" 4 cylinder? Or why do they bother with their "slow azz" V6? Why can't they drop a V8 in the genesis coupe and really compete if they want to be considered in the muscle/pony car category?
9) Anyone buying a genesis V6 might as well go for gold and get a 5.0 or SS, they don't cost much more.
10) Or if you're set on getting a V6 why would you bother with the genesis when the Mustang has better overall performance?

Originally Posted by green man

Why? What would be the joke?

The Genesis coupe was designed around the V6 it has, the Camaro was designed around the V8 and the V6 is just an after thought...or at least I hope GM didn't design a 4000lb sports coupe around a V6.

The Genesis is a nice looking purpose built car that compares nicely to the G35c.

Maybe the face palm is on you? I dislike the V6 Camaro as much as I dislike the V6 Mustang, cars for posers and wives IMO. If your opinion is different that's cool, buy what you like and like what you buy.

Tool.



I did buy what I liked, and I seriously doubt I'm a poser, or a wife. Then again, I'm secure in my manhood and I don't have to have my car reflect that manliness.


That said, that comment is directed only at the two people I quoted above and called tools. My v6 is plenty strong enough for day to day driving and going to the strip to play around. It's even beaten a few v8s, and ran door to door with others. So what does that say about those cars?


No, the real posers are the shit talkers who only do the tough act behind the anonymous thing we call the internet. Awesome, isn't it?

[nak3dsnake]

Originally Posted by OverZeaLouS

I'm sorry but a V6 on a camaro is like Tits on a Bull. That's not muscle. 304hp engine is not muscle. Direct injection is not muscle. Its performance. That being said, the camaro is the one faking the jack on the strip with that v6. I always hated the fact of muscle cars making slow azz v6's cuz they aren't muscle. And anyone buying a v6 camaro might have as well went for the gold n got less weight, tighter handling and better overall performance in a gen coupe.
The V8, that's a different story. Its not to be compared with comparablle priced performance such as nissan infiniti. That has to be compared to its muscular cousins. The mustang and challenger. When you buy a Z, you are buyin 1g skidpad performace. The camaro, you are getting good handling for a big car but a monster engine and insane modding capability.
Its funny how some say they shouldn't compare a genesis v6 to a camaro v6. Honestly, its the other way around. Leave the muscle to the v8 and the performance to the v6. Which the camaro v6 lacks the performance by comparison.

Lastly, while camaros v8 is king. 2011 mustang v6 is the closest to making a respectful v6 muscle car. 0-60 in 5.3 seconds and the quarter in 13.5 is no joke. Camaros 6.2/14.3 is laughable by comparison. 2011 mustang borders true muscle times. And is on the better end of performance times. Now if mustang can put an independant suspension like the camaro or if camaro can be tuned to be more like the mustang engine. Maybe v6 muscle might have a fighting chance as muscle-performance hybrid.

That's the unbiased rationalization right there.

Do you not remember the days where you where lucky if a v8 in a muscle car got 180 HP. You could slap some headers with high flow cats and a twin turbo on a v6 camaro and equal the power of the v8. The fact that you listen to magazine reviews for cars makes me lol. Times vary on the driver, if you really new anything you'd know that.

[nak3dsnake]

Originally Posted by mrray13

Tool. That's what you are.








Tool.



I did buy what I liked, and I seriously doubt I'm a poser, or a wife. Then again, I'm secure in my manhood and I don't have to have my car reflect that manliness.


That said, that comment is directed only at the two people I quoted above and called tools. My v6 is plenty strong enough for day to day driving and going to the strip to play around. It's even beaten a few v8s, and ran door to door with others. So what does that say about those cars?


No, the real posers are the shit talkers who only do the tough act behind the anonymous thing we call the internet. Awesome, isn't it?

I agree.

[2SSARMY]

Originally Posted by nak3dsnake

Do you not remember the days where you where lucky if a v8 in a muscle car got 180 HP. You could slap some headers with high flow cats and a twin turbo on a v6 camaro and equal the power of the v8. The fact that you listen to magazine reviews for cars makes me lol. Times vary on the driver, if you really new anything you'd know that.

Which wouldn't be worth the $$$. Although the STS v6 is hands down a BA camaro.

[wylde1]

I've come to some realizations reading this thread:

1. I have too much time on my hands

2. 2SSARMY is either purposefully ignorant to stir shit up... or 12 Can't figure it out

3. Who actually cares about any of this? I bought my SS because I like it. there are other good cars out there too. everybody needs to relax.

[2SSARMY]

Originally Posted by wylde1

2. 2SSARMY is either purposefully ignorant to stir shit up... or 12 Can't figure it out

Wait...what? Where did you see this???

[nak3dsnake]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Which wouldn't be worth the $$$. Although the STS v6 is hands down a BA camaro.

True, but people underestimate what you can do with an engine. For that money you might as well drop a v8 in it, or by an SS.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by CamaroBelarus

Let me correct for u ur corrected then....

1. Noone was speaking anythung about perfomance. Its just a right number.
3. Take 13.7-14.1 then. After that take camaro not 14.4-14.5 like it is, take 14.2-14.5 like stupid magz saying.
4. Take 5.1-5.6 then. After that take camaro not 5.9-6.1 like it is, take 5.7-6 - magz again.

And the last.... My numbers is what im gonna see in real life. STOP FOLOWING every retarded thread with ur retarded magz numbers and come back AFTER and show me a shit of paper with a stock 1/4 numbers from a track.

Motor Trend seemed to hit the GTs better than anyone else and do you really think the Mustang V6 with 305HP at 3400 pounds won't be capable of a at least a 14.0 even with the stock gears?????