Another keying victim...

[Dack]

I'm sorry but if someone was jacking my rims or willfully destructing my property I am the judge, jury and executioner. Don't try to fill me full of the "they're just a misguided individual". Hard families or a hard childhood is no excuse for illegal activity. If you act like a criminal, you damn well better realize the consequences of your actions. This society has become too soft for small crimes like vandalism. If they vandalize something, odds are they're pretty damn prone to do it again, if not commit a more serious crime. As for keying the car, I would break a couple legs and possibly a finger or two. Maybe that'll teach 'em something the justice system can't.

[Diabel1969]

Originally Posted by first one

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard! So, you walk out to your car tonight to find some kid stealing your rims or maybe even something less, and your going to tell me that you're going to shoot this kid dead to protect your property? Everyone does stupid things especially when they're young. One day they might grow up to be great people, oh, but not in your neighborhood, huh?

I would!. call it cleansing the gene pool.

[Diabel1969]

Originally Posted by tradosaurus

Most people talk big when it comes to killing someone but try to live with a 16 yr old's death because you blew him away for marking up your car.

The only time I would use deadly force is if a stranger came into my house uninvited and I reasonably believed my family or myself was in imminent danger.

I've got two replies for this.

about 8 years ago, I just had my older monte carlo repainted, and had it parked in a carport next to my winter car. I came outside 3 days, not 1, not 2, but 3 days in a row to find somebody had gotten into the car, and bashed the door into my winter car, blowing the paint off of my newly painted car, only to steal change, cd's and basically trashing the car. After the 3rd time, I decided to sleep in the car with my 357 revolver.. Car's got nicely tinted windows, and the young punk didn't see me until he was already sitting in my car next to me. I put the revolver in his mouth and cocked it. could I have killed him? it's a fine line legally, he was young, under 16, but armed with a screwdriver and a pocket knife, so maybe I could have. Instead I made him piss his pants literally, and I called the police, filed charges, and made his parents pay for the damage. I ran into the kids parents a while later. as weird as it sounds, they thanked me for not shooting they're child, but also thanked me for putting the fear of death into him, for it seemed to have a lasting effect on the young boys life.

Now, I live in ny. I have a 90 lb doberman in my house. Ny law states that if somebody breaks into my house, and my dog attacks them (doing his job), i'm liable for damages/injuries. So basically i'm left in a position where if somebody breaks into my house, and my dog gets them, his job is to hold them while I get my gun to shoot them, because dead men can't file law suits. Do I want to shoot anybody? NO. not at all, but i've worked way too hard for way too long for what I have, and i'll be damned if some punk's going to come into my world and take what i've busted my ass for. I didn't want you to think some of us are gun toting whackjobs looking to shoot somebody. I've carried weapons most of my life and i've never had to use one, and I hope I never do..

[dmax86]

If i found out how it was i would just take my duramax and and a chain and drag their car behind me... preferably with them in it! lol jk ...kinda...

[TXCammy]

Originally Posted by first one

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard! So, you walk out to your car tonight to find some kid stealing your rims or maybe even something less, and your going to tell me that you're going to shoot this kid dead to protect your property? Everyone does stupid things especially when they're young. One day they might grow up to be great people, oh, but not in your neighborhood, huh?

HELL YEAH!!!!! If a kid is so inclined to steal rims, he is NOT goint got grow up to be a "great" person, he is going to grow up to be a burden on taxpayers as he is sitting his a$$ in prison.........how 'bout that????!!!!
Most states are trying to abolish the death penalty---ours put in an express lane!!!!! WE DON'T PLAY!!!!!

[V1c1ous]

Originally Posted by first one

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard! So, you walk out to your car tonight to find some kid stealing your rims or maybe even something less, and your going to tell me that you're going to shoot this kid dead to protect your property? Everyone does stupid things especially when they're young. One day they might grow up to be great people, oh, but not in your neighborhood, huh?

People who grow up great do not get shot and killed stealing from others.

[first one]

That's a great story Diabel1969! You were by all means justified in your actions. You did that kid a favor, two actually, one you didn't kill him for some petty theft and two you scared the piss out of him and that maybe enough to turn his life around and he might be the next member posting here. And don't laugh at that because there are probably people on here reading this that have been in a similar circumstance and were forever greatful nothing happened to them. I'm not advocating crime by any means, but I am advocating compassion. I just think a lot of you guys are taking a life or ending a life too lightly and people can be rehabilitated especially a kid doing stupid things. I'm not opposed to beating the crap out of them or threatening the piss out of them to teach them straight because yes the justice system has become too laxed. Most you guys and gals too on Camaro5 seem to be intelligent and upstanding people and I'm just surprised there are so many with that viewpoint. Anyway, you all have a great day and aim high, real high!

[FB3]

Unfortunately there is trash walking around masquerading as human beings that do this crap. I am guessing from your location the low life that did this is probably an illegal, doesn't speak English, and needs to be deported.

If the perp is a citizen and speaks English he still needs to be deported.

[Deemos]

Originally Posted by first one

That's a great story Diabel1969! You were by all means justified in your actions. You did that kid a favor, two actually, one you didn't kill him for some petty theft and two you scared the piss out of him and that maybe enough to turn his life around and he might be the next member posting here. And don't laugh at that because there are probably people on here reading this that have been in a similar circumstance and were forever greatful nothing happened to them. I'm not advocating crime by any means, but I am advocating compassion. I just think a lot of you guys are taking a life or ending a life too lightly and people can be rehabilitated especially a kid doing stupid things. I'm not opposed to beating the crap out of them or threatening the piss out of them to teach them straight because yes the justice system has become too laxed. Most you guys and gals too on Camaro5 seem to be intelligent and upstanding people and I'm just surprised there are so many with that viewpoint. Anyway, you all have a great day and aim high, real high!

I also know people who now are great guys but were hellions growing up. After talking with many of these guys over the short span of my life I always ask what made them turn their lives around. Almost all of them said that it was a catastrophic event that almost killed them or taken a family member/friend and it opened their eyes that they had to stop or face the consequences of continuing down that path.

Almost all of them involved them getting shot by rival gangs, police, trigger happy potential victims, etc. Nothing is more powerful than life itself. When you have someone close to you, especially in this lifestyle where you can potentially bring trouble on those you care about, their loss is a life altering event. So are those near death experiences some of these punks face, while their holding their gut praying to God and asking everyone in sight that they don't want to die, want to see their families and swear to not do it again. Then you got those guys who end up somehow starting a family and realize that the retarded risks they are taking is not worth potentially losing their new family or getting removed from it.

Most of these kids who get caught and get a finger shaken at them for it usually don't turn a new leaf. Many usually wear it like a badge and get emboldened by the challenge of doing better to not get caught next time. Also personally squaring off with a young punk kid who thinks he's invincible is a sure fire way to get many of the double homicides you read about sometimes where a person confronts the kid and they both end up shooting each other. I wont take that risk. If the kid survives, then hopefully he takes it as that life altering event and changes his ways. If he ends up dying in the exchange. He'll become a lesson to a friend/family member who might have been teetering on that fence and hopefully they'll take it to heart and change as well.

P.S. obviously if it's during the daytime and I can see he's just being an ass and keying my car, I'm just going to beat the living hell out of him and make his parents pay for it. If the kid is desperate, armed, and trying to make off with my car or breaking into my apartment and being a potential threat to someone's life, then he's going down. Even though it sounds like I'm some gun toting vigilante, I do NOT go about waiting for the excuse to whack people.

Hope your repaint goes off without a hitch. Show us some pictures when you're done.

[Captain Awesome]

This is what the hyper-tolerant brainwashing of society gets:


Vandals mar new pedestrian bridge in Detroit

$5M pedestrian link in Mexicantown open for less than one day
Tom Greenwood / The Detroit News
Less than a day after it opened, the Mexicantown Bagley Avenue Pedestrian Bridge was vandalized, Michigan Department of Transportation officials said.

Numerous individuals have "tagged" the $5 million bridge with spray paint and used knives to carve into a wooden bench in the middle of the span. Others signed their names with pens and magic markers on the bench, officials said.

In fact, a video camera caught one woman as she used a colored pen to scrawl on a bench in the middle of the 400-foot-long bridge.

"Yes, it was me," said Oneita Jackson, a copy editor at the Detroit Free Press and author of Sunday's "O Street" blog.

"I did it. If you see a person with a green pen ... dressed in black slacks and a red top, that's me. I was excited about the event and wanted to put my name on it."

Jackson eventually put away the marker and said "Oh, I guess I shouldn't be doing this," the tape showed. As a blogger, she has written about her efforts as a mom to raise her 16-year-old son and encourage citizens to be more patient and civil.

The Rev. Tom Sepulveda, pastor of southwest Detroit's historic St. Anne de Detroit Church, spoke about community pride at the ceremony Wednesday, which also marked the 200th anniversary of Mexican Independence.

Sepulveda said he was disappointed to hear of the vandalism to the span that reconnects the east and west sides of Mexicantown for the first time since Interstates 75 and 96 were constructed in 1968 when residents could drive Bagley, Lafayette and Porter straight across.

"The bridge is of the people and to do something like that is certainly a sign of disrespect toward the people," Sepulveda said.

"Residents of this area have waited for 42 years for this reconnection. They've been through hard, hard times and something like this just shows so much thoughtlessness."

Striking in its design, the single-stayed cable bridge, with its angled 150-foot-tall pylon and 15-high-tension cables, is part of the $230-million Gateway Project that provides direct access to the Ambassador Bridge for truck traffic on the freeways.

A bridge engineer also caught three young women in the act of vandalism early Thursday afternoon, said MDOT chief engineer Victor Judnic.

"They were carving up the wooden bench," Judnic said.

"The bridge is made of high density wood which discourages carving, but that didn't seem to make a difference. Others used magic markers on the concrete."

The three ran as the MDOT engineer approached them, he said.

Judnic said MDOT had no intention to take legal action against the vandals.

"We don't do that," Judnic said.

"We'll try and clean off as much of the graffiti as we can, but there's nothing we can do about the carvings. We're close to entering into a maintenance agreement with business leaders in Mexicantown who will assume responsibility for the bridge, including plowing, salting, cutting grass and cleaning off graffiti."

Judnic said most of the bridge and plaza has been coated with an anti-graffiti solution.

"But you can't cover every area and a protective coating won't stop someone who wants to do some carving," he said.



From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20100508/...#ixzz0pwXdEE6A

[ClaymoreZ28]

wow....
I really really feel bad about this poor soul's car getting keyed.
I felt physically ill when I saw the pics

I would very much like to see the perpetrator get his comeuppance - but stating that folks would consider execution as a fit punishment for keying a car or stealing wheels is way too far out there .

I normally stay out of circular debates like this one - but think how you would feel if your misguided 16 year old son was doing something dumb like this and was shot...

Big difference between keying/petty crime and stuff which merits summary execution

[AMCPacer]

Originally Posted by GRSCAMARO

Tolerance for kids or others performing these "stupid things" is what is destroying our society. When I was young you knew the consequences for these stupid acts. Now, you have to commit murder to do any time behind bars. Death may be a bit extreme but something has to be done to curb crime.

Just my $.02. I am tired of our "it is not their fault" society! Barretta said it best "You do the crime, you do the time".

Sorry dude about the asshole that f'd up your car. The IOM is gorgeous. Singapore has the right idea like when that punk kid stole some license plates, the loser was going to get his ass caned.

[Kurushio]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

This is what the hyper-tolerant brainwashing of society gets:


Vandals mar new pedestrian bridge in Detroit

$5M pedestrian link in Mexicantown open for less than one day
Tom Greenwood / The Detroit News
Less than a day after it opened, the Mexicantown Bagley Avenue Pedestrian Bridge was vandalized, Michigan Department of Transportation officials said.

Numerous individuals have "tagged" the $5 million bridge with spray paint and used knives to carve into a wooden bench in the middle of the span. Others signed their names with pens and magic markers on the bench, officials said.

In fact, a video camera caught one woman as she used a colored pen to scrawl on a bench in the middle of the 400-foot-long bridge.

"Yes, it was me," said Oneita Jackson, a copy editor at the Detroit Free Press and author of Sunday's "O Street" blog.

"I did it. If you see a person with a green pen ... dressed in black slacks and a red top, that's me. I was excited about the event and wanted to put my name on it."

Jackson eventually put away the marker and said "Oh, I guess I shouldn't be doing this," the tape showed. As a blogger, she has written about her efforts as a mom to raise her 16-year-old son and encourage citizens to be more patient and civil.

The Rev. Tom Sepulveda, pastor of southwest Detroit's historic St. Anne de Detroit Church, spoke about community pride at the ceremony Wednesday, which also marked the 200th anniversary of Mexican Independence.

Sepulveda said he was disappointed to hear of the vandalism to the span that reconnects the east and west sides of Mexicantown for the first time since Interstates 75 and 96 were constructed in 1968 when residents could drive Bagley, Lafayette and Porter straight across.

"The bridge is of the people and to do something like that is certainly a sign of disrespect toward the people," Sepulveda said.

"Residents of this area have waited for 42 years for this reconnection. They've been through hard, hard times and something like this just shows so much thoughtlessness."

Striking in its design, the single-stayed cable bridge, with its angled 150-foot-tall pylon and 15-high-tension cables, is part of the $230-million Gateway Project that provides direct access to the Ambassador Bridge for truck traffic on the freeways.

A bridge engineer also caught three young women in the act of vandalism early Thursday afternoon, said MDOT chief engineer Victor Judnic.

"They were carving up the wooden bench," Judnic said.

"The bridge is made of high density wood which discourages carving, but that didn't seem to make a difference. Others used magic markers on the concrete."

The three ran as the MDOT engineer approached them, he said.

Judnic said MDOT had no intention to take legal action against the vandals.

"We don't do that," Judnic said.

"We'll try and clean off as much of the graffiti as we can, but there's nothing we can do about the carvings. We're close to entering into a maintenance agreement with business leaders in Mexicantown who will assume responsibility for the bridge, including plowing, salting, cutting grass and cleaning off graffiti."

Judnic said most of the bridge and plaza has been coated with an anti-graffiti solution.

"But you can't cover every area and a protective coating won't stop someone who wants to do some carving," he said.



From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20100508/...#ixzz0pwXdEE6A

I think it would be funny if the city blew up the bridge and said "Happy Now!, That's why we cant have nice things!!!!" I just dont understand how people cant understand that if it isnt theirs then dont damage it. Do they really think that its going to look better or they are going to look for a certain name that will probably be covered by some other name?

If they caught these people then that engineer should have went to their house and carved and spray painted his name on thier house to see how much they like it.

[VRMMMM]

Sorry about your car that just sucks! I love Texas, they are a no BS state. When I go there to visit my buddy, I notice I can drive through Fort Worth and there is no graffiti. I asked my buddy about this, he said, well people out here care, if we see someone spray painting on the freeway, we get involved.

I like Texas a lot, great place, great people no BS, I would not wanna get caught keying a car in Texas!