Hot Cam!

[BowtieGuy]

I did not know the specs of the cam. I just figured that GM would know how to get the most power out of their motor and maintain stock drivability, something closer to a 114-115 LSA.

I could say this in more words, but I'll just say this. Don't assume anything about me.

[zebra]

i've been looking into camming my 4.3, but figure i'm better of spending the money on my SS

[smike07]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Oh Christ.

A. What makes you think a 112 LSA cam is going to idle like stock? Because some brochure says so?

B. Cam installs are not a "simple mod."

C. There are much better cams out there that will idle smoother and make MORE power.

D. The only reason most people are considering the Hot Cam is the hope of maintaining their warranty. That varies dealer to dealer, especially seeing as I'm almost positive GMPP doesn't sell a tune for the cam. That having been said, you'd have to go get a tune which would then void your warranty anyways, and you'd still have been bent over backwards and raped in the ass by stealership labor charges.

How about asking people who have actually used a Hot Cam before.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...post1564265625

Whatever, man. The info came straight from the engineers at GMPP. Easy is a term I used because it's easy for me. It's not difficult to unbolt the core support, engine mounts, suspension, timing cover, drain some fluid, unhook some hoses, make a couple of pen marks on a sprocket, swap out a cam and tack it all back up. As long as you have a lift, the job is EASY! I could care less if it's too hard for you. The easy factor is a matter of opinion and mechanical know how. Also, name a cam that will run smoother. Keep in mind, if you misaligned something, forgot to put this bolt in, reused an old gasket, didn't clean up residue on the gasket surface, or countless other things, yeah, your engine may not idle the way it did before you took apart your car. I could care less about what's on another forum. The idle will be smooth because the GMPP engineers know exactly what they're doing, and when they put the car together, it's done right.

[LSxJunkie]

Originally Posted by smike07

Whatever, man. The info came straight from the engineers at GMPP. Easy is a term I used because it's easy for me. It's not difficult to unbolt the core support, engine mounts, suspension, timing cover, drain some fluid, unhook some hoses, make a couple of pen marks on a sprocket, swap out a cam and tack it all back up. As long as you have a lift, the job is EASY! I could care less if it's too hard for you. The easy factor is a matter of opinion and mechanical know how. Also, name a cam that will run smoother. Keep in mind, if you misaligned something, forgot to put this bolt in, reused an old gasket, didn't clean up residue on the gasket surface, or countless other things, yeah, your engine may not idle the way it did before you took apart your car. I could care less about what's on another forum. The idle will be smooth because the GMPP engineers know exactly what they're doing, and when they put the car together, it's done right.

You could care less about evidence that proves contrary to your belief that the hot cam will idle like stock?







Here are some people who have used the Hot Cam. Sure as hell doesn't sound stock to me.

How about SuperChevy. They don't know what they're talking about either, right?

http://superchevy.automotive.com/717...l92-heads.html

Originally Posted by Super Chevy

The Hot Cam is the perfect street cam. It has that "idle lope" that everyone wants at 800 rpm but has broad horsepower and torque bands, making it great for propelling a musclecar or hot rod.

And those idiots over at Hot Rod....they're such amateurs when it comes to this car stuff.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...camshafts.html

Originally Posted by Hot Rod

The LSAs on the four Crane test cams ranged from 114 to 120 degrees (see cam specs table). Also tested was the GM Hot cam, which had a 112-degree LSA and a lopey idle.

Oh, and who the hell ****s up an install and then gets the car tuned and then complains that it lopes?

Enjoy your 10 year old cam grind. If lope and idle were the deciding factor in my cam purchase, I could have a cam that lopes and idles like that, after tune, making 420 at the wheels.

[Robert91RS]

Wowe guys, easy!

[zebra]

LSx - mean as that was, it sure was funny. i'd love that power & sound in every vehicle. just imagine - a pushrod Prius going ba-dum ba-dum ba-dum

[Robert91RS]

LSxJunkie has some very good points but I think this is just a miss understanding. I think smike is just saying that the cam is very mild and still improves hp and tq without sending the powerband to the moon or destroying your idle(yes it lopes mildly). I don't think anobody here is saying the Hot Cam is the best cam for everyone in every situation. Lets all stay calm and not get a very informative thread shut down. The Hot Cam is very appealing to many because the box says GM and they know it will work well, there is nothing wrong with that. If your goal is 480hp before additional bolt-ons this cam may be a good option.

[LSxJunkie]

I'd like to get this misconception out of the way as well.

$500 dollars gets you the cam ONLY. You will spend another $400 to $500 dollars getting the car tuned to run right by a reputable tuner. Either that, or you'll spend a couple hundred dollars for HP Tuners+credits, EFILive, or LS1Edit and their respective cables and another couple hundred on a wideband, if you have balls and/or skill to tune an EFI car yourself. This cam, and all cams, on factory tables, will idle and run like ass. A cam is not a bolt and go mod.

[logan1080]

So what cam out there do you guys think Is a better choice than a hot cam for street driveability after a tune? And why is it a better choice?

[LSxJunkie]

Originally Posted by logan1080

So what cam out there do you guys think Is a better choice than a hot cam for street driveability after a tune? And why is it a better choice?

Mild cams?

Texas Speed 220/220 Cam with 116 LSA, 114 if you're feeling a little saucy. The 112 will lope enough for people to know you have a cam.

Texas Speed 224/224XE Cam, 115, 114, 112 LSAs

Texas Speed 224R Cam, again, with choices of 116, 114, and 112 LSAs. The 116 will again idle smoothest.

LG Motorsports G6XE "Executive Cam"

Cartek's M or H Cams.


Granted, these cams will all require you to do valvesprings as well, but that's generally a given when making power out of a cam anyways. That is the one advantage of the Hot Cam over these. Such low lift that you can keep your stock springs. Hell, the intake side on the LS3 has higher lift than the Hot Cam.

LS3 Cam: 204/211 .551/.525 117
Hot Cam: 219/228 .525/.525 112

[Black5thgen]

I'm going to get a custom grind Comp from Speed Inc. and have them do the tune. I'm shooting for over 500hp fly wheels with full ehaust and intake.

[logan1080]

So with those cams and a change of valve springs. Is 500 HP possible in a car that will be a street cruiser?

[logan1080]

Have a clue on the price range of those cam?

[1_2Many]

My question is...will you be able to install a cam in a new Camaro without pulling engine?

And if so, is pulling the radiator, removing front end, etc any easier?