Camaro V6 RS V.S. Challenger R/T

[fastrt09]

I had my car dynoed this sat. and it put down 350 h.p and 371 torque and all I have is a cai, 85mm throttlebody flowmaster catback and a base email custom tune with 4 degrees knock on the upper end and that's only 17 h.p away from srt-8 numbers.So I think they put out more than what Dodge says.

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by fastrt09

I had my car dynoed this sat. and it put down 350 h.p and 371 torque and all I have is a cai, 85mm throttlebody flowmaster catback and a base email custom tune with 4 degrees knock on the upper end and that's only 17 h.p away from srt-8 numbers.So I think they put out more than what Dodge says.

Of course they do. How would Dodge justify charging potential SRT buyers 10K more if the hp numbers on it and the RT were so close? They're beautiful cars but unless you do some really expensive and serious mods, they're just too heavy to keep up with cars making equal or less hp and torque.

[SummitWhiteLS]

Ignore the private drag times, no one knows what a person might have done with their car while still calling it "stock" (tires/tire pressure, powershifting, suspension adjustments, etc.).

Here is what C&D got (factory delivered condition, lift throttle shifts, weather/altitude corrected, etc.):

• 13.6 for the v8 Challenger R/T
• 14.5 for the v6 Camaro

The R/T's base price is $8,000 more than the v6 Maro's, so it better dang well cough up the goods.

But comparing it to a car in it's own price range, the Maro SS shuts it down.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

That's fine. They can't keep up in any way, shape or form though.

Unfortunatly that is just not what the numbers people are running and they numbers they are dynoing at is showing. The Auto SS and Auto R/T are damned close.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by SummitWhiteLS

Ignore the private drag times, no one knows what a person might have done with their car while still calling it "stock" (tires/tire pressure, powershifting, suspension adjustments, etc.).

Here is what C&D got (factory delivered condition, lift throttle shifts, weather/altitude corrected, etc.):

• 13.6 for the v8 Challenger R/T
• 14.5 for the v6 Camaro

The R/T's base price is $8,000 more than the v6 Maro's, so it better dang well cough up the goods.

But comparing it to a car in it's own price range, the Maro SS shuts it down.

Can't really compare price of a base LS to an R/t, the difference is more than power as the R/T also come pretty nicely equipped. Also i wouldn't the SS "shuts it down" the manual SS does have a nice advantage, the auto SS is damned close to the R/T.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by Stew

Also i wouldn't the SS "shuts it down" the manual SS does have a nice advantage, the auto SS is damned close to the auto R/T.

Fixed that for ya!

The auto RTs are the ones putting down the best numbers. Id put my money on an auto Camaro vs a 6-speed RT.

[KungFuHamster]

Originally Posted by SummitWhiteLS

Ignore the private drag times, no one knows what a person might have done with their car while still calling it "stock" (tires/tire pressure, powershifting, suspension adjustments, etc.).

so if took a stock car to the track and powershifted it, you would consider the numbers to be skewed?

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Fixed that for ya!

The auto RTs are the ones putting down the best numbers. Id put my money on an auto Camaro vs a 6-speed RT.

I have to totally agree. The 6 seed is probably more fun, but the auto is definatly the beast. I really want to see how a 10 auto R/T with the Super track pack stands up, if the 3 season tires and the ability to completely shut the stability control off would really help in the 1/4 mile. No doubt it should bring handling up quite a bit (add to the previous different shocks, apparently bilstiens and the bigger rear sway bar.

[mjf6866]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

That's fine. They can't keep up in any way, shape or form though.

hey, if you say so! i guess cause its sooo much heavier than the camaro, right?

1bad65...i would have to agree with you. the auto R/Ts are the ones putting down awesome numbers and a 6-speed R/T against an auto SS isnt going to win unless the SS driver sucks. humans cant shift faster than todays autos!

[mjf6866]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Not enough to overturn a ~50HP disadvantage, unless the R/T is drastically underrated.

its been shown that the SRT is putting down 25-30 more HP at the wheels than the R/T is at the wheels (not exactly a 50hp difference). both stock, both run on the same dyno, one right after the other. thats why its close.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by mjf6866

the auto R/Ts are the ones putting down awesome numbers and a 6-speed R/T against an auto SS isnt going to win unless the SS driver sucks. humans cant shift faster than todays autos!

I love driving standards though. I seriously considered a Challenger awhile back, and I did alot of research on them. Even knowing the autos were getting better times, and that I was going to race it, I would have gotten the 6-speed.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by mjf6866

its been shown that the SRT is putting down 25-30 more HP at the wheels than the R/T is at the wheels (not exactly a 50hp difference). both stock, both run on the same dyno, one right after the other. thats why its close.

Putting one trim of each car on a dyno automatically means all of the cars are underrated? Highly unlikely.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Putting one trim of each car on a dyno automatically means all of the cars are underrated? Highly unlikely.

I think he was referring to how close the 2 actually are by comparing same day/same dyno. That said there have been more than a few dynos showing the R/T is well underrated.

[mjf6866]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Putting one trim of each car on a dyno automatically means all of the cars are underrated? Highly unlikely.

i've been down this road before on these forums and it never gets anywhere, so believe it or dont. the numbers dont lie. there have been multiple dyno runs posted all putting the R/T in the same range. how does that make it unlikely? this one particular time however had and a stock SRT 6-speed and an stock R/T 6-speed there at the same time and the results were posted. the numbers were 25-30 hp in favor of the SRT, not 50hp. just because its rare to have two trim levels in stock form run back to back, doesnt mean that its unlikely. especially when compared to other dyno sheets that were posted of each trim level individually at different times.

1bad65...i'll agree with you on that again...if i were only set on drag racing, i would have opted for the auto for sure. i however like driving back country roads where its really fun to bang though the gears!