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ironpeddler · 06-17-2010, 09:19 AM

I can't even believe this is a serious question. I mean seriously??

If you actually had to ask this question, in all seriousness, then sell your SHelby gt500 and get a regular mustang gt. Seems the thing to do if you are an intelligent person.

/sarcasm off

KungFuHamster · 06-17-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mesh

TO THE EVIL TW1N : Rooad and Track is a reputable magazine and I'm sure their test numbers are what they got. When they mentioned the 1/8 mile runs it was in the context of running with the locals and such. So far Motor Trend, which I subscribe to, is one of the only magazine besides the specialized magazines like Mustangs and Fast Fords or 5.0 to get these ridiculous numbers for the Mustang. I believe the company which owns or used to own Motor Trend also published these specialty Ford magazines. You seem to be a lot more knowledgable about cars than I do, so I apologize if I've said anything in error.

i wouldnt take anything that motor trend, Road&track or Car&Driver said too seriously, especially when it comes to performance numbers.

guiLT · 06-17-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SweetSandMan

There's a reason that it sells so well...and I don't even think Toyota has it pin-pointed yet...so they are going to change as little as possible until they have it zeroed in on. That's what I suspect at least.

I think you're right..

IPS Brandon · 06-17-2010, 11:28 AM

We just acquired our new 2011 Mustang Gt yesterday and deceied to put it on the rollers right away and compare it against our baseline numbers from our camaro (LS3).

Interesting enough this was on 87 octane (the 2011 GT) as it literally has 37 miles on the car. We are going to race the gas out of it tonight and re dyno on 93 to see if it picks any horsepower up.

As it sits, the Camaro wins on paper

We will run the mustang at the track tonight and see if we can match up the 1/4 mile times against our base 1/4 mile times in out R&D Camaro!

EDIT NEW 93 OCTANE vs 93 OCTANE

More photos found here http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipsmotorsports/

Who wants to guess who wins, and what the mustang runs tonight

Regards

WiccaJew · 06-17-2010, 11:37 AM

Nice can't wait to see the results.!

VelocityC6 · 06-17-2010, 11:38 AM

IMO Mustang looks pretty good in this comparison. Running 87 octane on a green motor not even broken in and it's within 6hp peak.....all while lugging around less weight.

IPS Brandon · 06-17-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by VelocityC6

IMO Mustang looks pretty good in this comparison. Running 87 octane on a green motor not even broken in and it's within 6hp peak.....all while lugging around less weight.

The dealer filled it with 87...Rookie mistake however we will see what it does with 93 tonight/tomorrow and update again!

However I drove both stock cars back to back, and its too hard to tell which one feels better per say. I will say the Mustang under braking is miserable and has awful modulation, that was my most lasting first impression. Oh and the Camaro is better looking IMO to

Regards

IPS Brandon · 06-17-2010, 11:48 AM

How about a dyno comparison b/w our shop cars

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90056

Regards

mrray13 · 06-17-2010, 11:57 AM

Nice! 6rwhp to the Camaro, goes along with the base ratings. The Camaro's huge torque advantage should help it though. Although I know those numbers can/will probably change with the 93 in it.

Questions about the Mustang. Is it a manual car? What gear ratio did you get? Also, what gear did you dyno in?

I think the Camaro will have the quicker pass until the Mustang breaks in a bit. The Camaro by 2 tenths, comparing it's first run vs the Mustang's tonight.

Sax1031 · 06-17-2010, 12:10 PM

Yes the IRS will eat up more power than the SRA.

And those are not bad numbers for 87 octane and 37 miles. Also not bad for the Camaro either.

Sax1031 · 06-17-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mrray13

Nice! 6rwhp to the Camaro, goes along with the base ratings. The Camaro's huge torque advantage should help it though. Although I know those numbers can/will probably change with the 93 in it.

Questions about the Mustang. Is it a manual car? What gear ratio did you get? Also, what gear did you dyno in?

I think the Camaro will have the quicker pass until the Mustang breaks in a bit. The Camaro by 2 tenths, comparing it's first run vs the Mustang's tonight.

The weight difference between the two looks like it will make the torque nearly equal on both cars when compared to weight. Not sure on the Mustang gearing. The mustang will have a pretty decent advantage in power-to-weight though.

mrray13 · 06-17-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sax1031

The weight difference between the two looks like it will make the torque nearly equal on both cars when compared to weight. Not sure on the Mustang gearing. The mustang will have a pretty decent advantage in power-to-weight though.

True, but the Camaro carries it's power/torque advantage throughout it's curve, save from about 6k on. Like you said, with the Mustang being lighter, it appears on paper it levels the playing field.

Can't wait to see the runs begin, lol!!

Sax1031 · 06-17-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mrray13

True, but the Camaro carries it's power/torque advantage throughout it's curve, save from about 6k on. Like you said, with the Mustang being lighter, it appears on paper it levels the playing field.

Can't wait to see the runs begin, lol!!

The Mustang has the advantage on paper.

Nearly identical torque and more power, of course when compared to weight.

KungFuHamster · 06-17-2010, 12:26 PM

awesome. this is what i think everyone is looking for....true apples to apples comparisons.

also, i think the GT is meant to be run on 87 octane (like the "old" 3valves) which is why the dealer would add it to the car. but like you said, it should pick up a few hp with the 93.

im looking forward to seeing what you guys come out with!

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06-17-2010, 09:19 AM	#6553
ironpeddler Drives: 2010 Shelby GT500 Join Date: May 2009 Location: OH Posts: 288	I can't even believe this is a serious question. I mean seriously?? If you actually had to ask this question, in all seriousness, then sell your SHelby gt500 and get a regular mustang gt. Seems the thing to do if you are an intelligent person. /sarcasm off __________________ Black/silver stripes 2010 GT500 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akc1A-Jus_k ^^^ mustang dyno video

06-17-2010, 11:28 AM	#6556
IPS Brandon Drives: 2010 Camaro SS black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 907	Our shop 2010 Camaro VS. our 2011 5.0 Mustang GT? EDIT NEW 93 OCTANTE Dyno charts! We just acquired our new 2011 Mustang Gt yesterday and deceied to put it on the rollers right away and compare it against our baseline numbers from our camaro (LS3). Interesting enough this was on 87 octane (the 2011 GT) as it literally has 37 miles on the car. We are going to race the gas out of it tonight and re dyno on 93 to see if it picks any horsepower up. As it sits, the Camaro wins on paper We will run the mustang at the track tonight and see if we can match up the 1/4 mile times against our base 1/4 mile times in out R&D Camaro! EDIT NEW 93 OCTANE vs 93 OCTANE More photos found here http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipsmotorsports/ Who wants to guess who wins, and what the mustang runs tonight Regards Last edited by IPS Brandon; 06-21-2010 at 10:38 AM.

06-17-2010, 11:38 AM	#6558
VelocityC6 Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicopee Posts: 42	IMO Mustang looks pretty good in this comparison. Running 87 octane on a green motor not even broken in and it's within 6hp peak.....all while lugging around less weight. __________________ 2006 Lemans Blue C6 Z06 1995 3000GT VR4-sold 2005 Pontiac GTO-sold 2007 Corvette Z51-sold

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06-17-2010, 12:26 PM	#6566
KungFuHamster Drives: Black SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 454	awesome. this is what i think everyone is looking for....true apples to apples comparisons. also, i think the GT is meant to be run on 87 octane (like the "old" 3valves) which is why the dealer would add it to the car. but like you said, it should pick up a few hp with the 93. im looking forward to seeing what you guys come out with!