M6 guys... T6060 is a POS !!

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Jamestwilliams

This same issue was mentioned quite a while ago, I don't think the term POS applies, you're being dramatic. It was determined the first time around that the grinding could be caused by poor shifting technique. I love it when you get people brand new to the site posting stuff like the sky is falling.

the OP has been here longer than you....

[jeffny09]

whasat do you mean by shifting technique? sorry i only drove stick for 7 months to learn and im getting the camaro in stick so if you could explain that would be great
thanx

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by jeffny09

whasat do you mean by shifting technique? sorry i only drove stick for 7 months to learn and im getting the camaro in stick so if you could explain that would be great
thanx

if you cant find it... grind it!

[Inspector 17]

I think we need to see this thing in action in the Camaro before we cry foul. Lots of things can impact the shifting and the setup in the Camaro is going to be a little different than either the Vette or GT500.

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

if you cant find it... grind it!

That's exactly what they're saying. Got a problem, it's YOUR fault. Shifting technique indeed. Put the Royal Purple Tranny oil in, and if it ever needs warranty service, put the standard GM lube back in before going to the dealer.

Originally Posted by camaropete

I think we need to see this thing in action in the Camaro before we cry foul. Lots of things can impact the shifting and the setup in the Camaro is going to be a little different than either the Vette or GT500.

^ Don't mess with this guy...

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by jeffny09

whasat do you mean by shifting technique? sorry i only drove stick for 7 months to learn and im getting the camaro in stick so if you could explain that would be great
thanx

If you've been rowing your own for 7 months you're good. With a properly working tranny, everyone shifts the same, clutch in, throw the stick, clutch out.

You've probably gotten lazy a time or 2 and didn't push the clutch in far enough and the gears not sync, etc bla-bla. Or, not enough revs at takoff and it stutters/jerks, too much revs and maybe you get some hop depending on the car....Or clutch out too fast=jerk.

You have enough experience that if somethings wrong, you may not be able to describe it, but you'll know it.

I would like someone to describe what they mean by 'double clutching', that shouldn't ever be necessary on a sync'd tranny, I'm curious why you'd do it.

[edit] By the way, the t6060 is a re-bop of the t56, because it's new there may be bugs, (looks like a hit-n-miss problem) but I wouldn't scream the sky is falling too quick. It'll probably go down in history as one damned fine OE tranny. The vette 6060 is a transaxle arrangement.

[redsap05]

Originally Posted by Jamestwilliams

This same issue was mentioned quite a while ago, I don't think the term POS applies, you're being dramatic. It was determined the first time around that the grinding could be caused by poor shifting technique. I love it when you get people brand new to the site posting stuff like the sky is falling.

I used the term POS because it was used serveral times in the corvette forum. I must admit I also heard good things about this tranny but apearantly its not so. Could it be just from abuse, I suppose so. Either way I still plan on getting the m6 car so lets hope this is just a bunch of bs from abused tranny's.

[garagelogic]

I have 18,000 miles on my T6060, putting down over 600rwhp for over 10K of those miles with no issues whatsoever thus far. It seems to be isolated cases.

[zforce]

Fudge icicle sticks! I ordered the M6, with the Hurst and haven't driven a stick for about 15 years. Should I change my order to an auto? Would they even add an automatic later on if I get the manual now and find too much trouble with it? I figured I would probably go through a clutch getting my bearing around a stick but wasn't expecting to read about all this trouble before getting it out the box.

What would you do in my position?

[Jamestwilliams]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

If you've been rowing your own for 7 months you're good. With a properly working tranny, everyone shifts the same, clutch in, throw the stick, clutch out.

You've probably gotten lazy a time or 2 and didn't push the clutch in far enough and the gears not sync, etc bla-bla. Or, not enough revs at takoff and it stutters/jerks, too much revs and maybe you get some hop depending on the car....Or clutch out too fast=jerk.

You have enough experience that if somethings wrong, you may not be able to describe it, but you'll know it.

I would like someone to describe what they mean by 'double clutching', that shouldn't ever be necessary on a sync'd tranny, I'm curious why you'd do it.

[edit] By the way, the t6060 is a re-bop of the t56, because it's new there may be bugs, (looks like a hit-n-miss problem) but I wouldn't scream the sky is falling too quick. It'll probably go down in history as one damned fine OE tranny. The vette 6060 is a transaxle arrangement.

Double clutching is used for down shifting, you release the clutch in neutral rev the engine so that the engine and transmission input match speeds with the output shaft and rear wheels. It helps you decelerate much more quickly.

[Jamestwilliams]

To add to that you also have to use your right foot to brake and hit the throttle at the same time. It's a lot easier when the brake and throttle peddles are at the same height, this isn't always the case and makes it much more difficult but not impossible.

[LSxJunkie]

Originally Posted by Jamestwilliams

Double clutching is used for down shifting, you release the clutch in neutral rev the engine so that the engine and transmission input match speeds with the output shaft and rear wheels. It helps you decelerate much more quickly.

Not it doesn't. In a synchroed trans, you can do this faster without releasing the clutch between gears, which is two fewer movements and inherently faster.

[toesuf94]

Originally Posted by detroitboy

I've talked to a couple of my vette buddies and they all say the same thing "thats just the way the transmission is when its cold".

I used to have a chevette diesel (quit laughing) and it was the same way for the first mile or two of driving when it was cold. It was'nt an issue in warm weather, and it was'nt much of an issue below zero. It was just stiff to shift for the first few times through the range until it got warmed up. Everything shifted smooth...no grind etc....it was just as if the trans fluid was as thick as mud.

I bet you speed shifted that monster all the time, right? I won't laugh at you about the Chevette though, they were at the very least RIGHT WHEEL DRIVE, had a Bowtie on them, and they took a lot of abuse when you got right down to it.

[dieseldave24v]

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