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Old 07-27-2010, 03:13 PM   #659
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I see your low 50's and raise you mid 50's
I see your mid-$50Ks and sh*t my pants... I certainly don't think that Z28, the way I believe we're going to see it, wouldn't deserve a price like that for what GM would be offering, but I might have to go with SS and mod' the crap out of it I could/will go faster (even though I'd still plan on basic bolt-ons with Z28), but won't have what many have already pointed out (i.e. warranty, prestige, A Z28...). I know at least many people here would be able to afford it and enjoy it, and that's good enough for me

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Thats a huge premium to ask for this model vs the SS. Sure you are getting a factory supercharger but to increase the price nearly 15k over the 2SS seems like a bit crazy. I don't disagree with you but I think that is nuts. If you meant out the door then that seems about right though
When will this end?... This point has been beaten to death like it owe's ya'll money. This POV bugs the crap out of me. Refer to the post below...

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supercharger+stronger internals+better brakes+better suspension+better wheels+warranty
That's rubbish! None of that should justify a price in the neighborhood we're talking! We're going to need ALL of that, and maybe even a little more, in order to match/exceed the GT500. I know GM can do it, but will they?...

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Old 07-27-2010, 03:14 PM   #660
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:16 PM   #661
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Hair under 50k for the 2011 GT500

Yeah, probably mid 60's for Canadians.

He was talking about Canadian pricing, which is typically around 20% higher than US pricing.
If that's the case, I respectfully withdraw my statements
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:17 PM   #662
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Any price guestimation yet?
Ok I think some people will poo poo this notion I have on pricing, but it seems most of the time GM follows this practice, unless you are talking about the Corvette and the ZR-1......
Most of the time there is a price "Overlap" between models, in other words the highest price model of the next lower designation will be just over the entry point for the next, like take the LS, if you option one of them out it will be just a little more than what a base 1LT will be, same goes with the 1LT compared to the 2LT, the 2LT to the 1SS and then the 1SS to the 2SS... I feel like the entry level price for the Z28 will probably be near or at the top price for an SS you can buy... But that is my best guess...And then if GM decides to make the Z28 comparable in the Camaro lineup to the ZR-1 in the Corvette lineup then all bets are off on the price...
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:19 PM   #663
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Hair under 50k for the 2011 GT500
If you get it stripped down which hardly anyone does. On average their over $50k. don't forget about the gas guzzler tax they have. That reminds me, will the Z/28 have that?
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:24 PM   #664
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If you get it stripped down which hardly anyone does. On average their over $50k. don't forget about the gas guzzler tax they have. That reminds me, will the Z/28 have that?
No GG on the 2011's
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:30 PM   #665
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No GG on the 2011's
That I didn't know. I guess the z/28 won't have that either then?
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:35 PM   #666
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I don't see how they're going to avoid it. The GT500 barely squeaked by the tax by cutting about 120lbs of fat from the car.

Unless they somehow manage to cut considerable weight from the Z, I think it gets a GG tax. About the only way I could see any serious weight reduction is through forged components or lightweight body panels, and that means serious $$$.
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Depends on what mpg it gets and how much it weighs, gt500 makes the cut by a little, enough anyway.
Yeah, what I meant was that Chevy seems to always win the gas mpg game when it comes to performance cars.
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Ok I think some people will poo poo this notion I have on pricing, but it seems most of the time GM follows this practice, unless you are talking about the Corvette and the ZR-1......
Most of the time there is a price "Overlap" between models, in other words the highest price model of the next lower designation will be just over the entry point for the next, like take the LS, if you option one of them out it will be just a little more than what a base 1LT will be, same goes with the 1LT compared to the 2LT, the 2LT to the 1SS and then the 1SS to the 2SS... I feel like the entry level price for the Z28 will probably be near or at the top price for an SS you can buy... But that is my best guess...And then if GM decides to make the Z28 comparable in the Camaro lineup to the ZR-1 in the Corvette lineup then all bets are off on the price...
As much as I pray you're right, I just don't believe it. It would be TOO good a deal. I pray to all that's Holly that you're right though

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If you get it stripped down which hardly anyone does. On average their over $50k. don't forget about the gas guzzler tax they have. That reminds me, will the Z/28 have that?
I'm sure it will. The '11 GT500 doesn't have it though.

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That I didn't know. I guess the z/28 won't have that either then?
I believe it will because of what the ratings are for other similar models - look at ZR1 and CTS-V. Because I believe LSA will get the nod in Z28, I'm going to base my judgement off of what CTS-V is rated at, and it ain't looking good for Z28, MPG-wise. I could care less, if it weren't for the GG

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Yeah, what I meant was that Chevy seems to always win the gas mpg game when it comes to performance cars.
Except for the SC'd 6.2s...
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As much as I pray you're right, I just don't believe it. It would be TOO good a deal. I pray to all that's Holly that you're right though



I'm sure it will. The '11 GT500 doesn't have it though.



I believe it will because of what the ratings are for other similar models - look at ZR1 and CTS-V. Because I believe LSA will get the nod in Z28, I'm going to base my judgement off of what CTS-V is rated at, and it ain't looking good for Z28, MPG-wise. I could care less, if it weren't for the GG



Except for the SC'd 6.2s...
True. I could care less about a GG tax also. I just want it to get here so I can see it in the flesh.
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True. I could care less about a GG tax also. I just want it to get here so I can see it in the flesh.
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Old 07-27-2010, 04:25 PM   #671
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Suggestions!

Forged crank, piston rods, LS9 heads, choice or rear end gears at order time would be nice (just like the old days)... those who want 3.45, 3.55, 3.73, 4.10 Let them choose!

Either way, if the purpose is to be the "leader", then why not just put a AFM 600HP Auto or 638HP Manual choice? Just use the current ZR-1 Engine and forget it! There is no way it would run like the vette due to the weight, but it would allow for volume orders from parts suppliers and focus on just a couple engines at the high end. Unless of course, they feel it would be inappropriate without the roll bars. LOL

I'd also like to see a few more colors similar to old days... earth tones.http://www.camaro5.com/forums/images...s/thumbsup.gif
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Old 07-27-2010, 04:39 PM   #672
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Well...... I have thought long and hard about if I buy a 2010 Z06 or a new Z/28 and I can now say that I am 100% in on the Z/28. Now my collection is complete!

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