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Kyle2k · 07-31-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Wow, they really messed up with those stripes.

I think you can get the wide stripes if you want can't you?

Yuh

GrinderSS · 07-31-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lil_chef

well thats not a very fair comparison then...

i love my MGW shifter too though

Yea, that's my point of reference, I should have mentioned that in the original comparison. My MGW shifter is the truly incredible.

Blownhotrodder · 07-31-2010, 12:39 PM

No, not with the svt performance pack.

meanmike · 07-31-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackieRay

A lot of nonsense. People blame the UAW, but everyone at GM was on the take and that killed the company, that and the product was awful.

Funny, even in bankruptcy GM sells more cars that Ford.

And yet they still went bankrupt. To bad they still cant make as good a profit as Ford does.

GrinderSS · 07-31-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by meanmike

And yet they still went bankrupt. To bad they still cant make as good a profit as Ford does.

It's utterly disgusting really...Barry Obama gives the UAW $60 billion IN ADDITION TO 17% ownership of GM and the company still goes through bankruptcy. Clearly the bailout was repayment for their support of his campaign and to ensure the UAW maintained a seat at the table throughout and after the bankruptcy proceedings.

Essentially the American and Canadian tax payers paid for the UAW to keep their jobs, when they played a significant role in the ruination of GM.

Ford knew what Barry and his goons were up to and they smartly told him to pound sand.

BigDan · 07-31-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan

Too bad, more like who now cares about the comparison using the gone forever 2010 4.6L and 5 speed.

Let me know if you ever decide to make it fair and use a 2011 5.0L 6 speed

The compro Mustang has an old out of production v8 and an old 5 speed, that's would be like swaping out the LS3 6 speed for a LT-1 and 5 speed and then test them at the race track. Thats how I feel about the match up.

lil_chef · 07-31-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wbt

I am not so sure the transmission is the single limiting factor. I think compression is limiting the amount of boost.

I don't think the M6 in the Mustang is any less stout than the M6 in the Camaro and there are many Camaros pushing more to the wheels than the GT350.

Livernois just announced a new piston/rod package for the 5.0 that will allow upping the boost. (I.E. lower compression option and a higher compression option for the N/A and nitrous crowd.)

i believe it was roush that said they kept blowing transmissions when they were testing FI applications. they never mentioned anything about the engine being stout enough, although lower compression would help. lets see if i can find the article where it was mentioned.

bolteon593 · 07-31-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blownhotrodder

No, not with the svt performance pack.

^ truth ^

personally i like them narrow... the wider ones are a bit much.

nachocheese · 07-31-2010, 03:36 PM

So, I guess they will be re-testing the Camaro to try for better numbers then? Is that how it works, you keep testing over and over until you get the best numbers to publish? Wow, that could get pretty tiring having to test and re-test every car! But, you have to hand it to them, they want to get the best numbers possible for every car they test. Oh wait, never mind, they only do that for the hallowed mustang.

BigDan · 07-31-2010, 04:01 PM

^ The SS doesn't have the traction problems that the GT500 encountered on that test car, on that test track, on that day. MT's first test of the SS was their best during the winter video running LS3 13.0@111mph and L99 in 13.1

They could of gotten a lot better mph on the GT500. Mine runs 118's consistently hot lapping it in the summer.

Just wait until Evan Smith gets a hold of one at E-town.

MADBOWTIE · 07-31-2010, 05:03 PM

Somebody needs to set up a Camaro VS mustang shootout this fall. Same track same time line em up and let em go.

Coolew82 · 07-31-2010, 05:08 PM

SS420 · 07-31-2010, 05:17 PM

Ok, this is what we found out. When the 5.0 is mashed to the max...it's receiving 86% throttle. Has something to do with the drive-by-wire. When that's manipulated....to where you are getting the full 100% from the car. The Mustang 5.0 puts down 400RWHP!!! At the stock 86%..your getting about 365RWHP.
Either way....I feel cheated.

I had my MT SS dynoed on a Mustand Dyno...and I got 358.7RWHP.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 07-31-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SS420

Ok, this is what we found out. When the 5.0 is mashed to the max...it's receiving 86% throttle. Has something to do with the drive-by-wire. When that's manipulated....to where you are getting the full 100% from the car. The Mustang 5.0 puts down 400RWHP!!! At the stock 86%..your getting about 365RWHP.
Either way....I feel cheated.

I had my MT SS dynoed on a Mustand Dyno...and I got 358.7RWHP.

If that were the case then don't you think all drive-by-wire cars are leaving something on the table?

07-31-2010, 05:03 PM	#8201
MADBOWTIE 400+rwhp and climbing! Drives: 2010 2ss/rs camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Calhoun GA Posts: 137 View My Garage	SS vs 5.0 GT shootout Somebody needs to set up a Camaro VS mustang shootout this fall. Same track same time line em up and let em go. __________________ 400+ to the wheels, ask the guy with the 5.0 how much the plus is

07-31-2010, 05:08 PM	#8202
Coolew82 Drives: blk on blk SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Baltimore Posts: 22 View My Garage	__________________ 2010 BLK L99 Soon to be unleashed by Jannety tunning (TRQ and AFM)

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nachocheese Drives: 1LT RS, SIM Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 288	So, I guess they will be re-testing the Camaro to try for better numbers then? Is that how it works, you keep testing over and over until you get the best numbers to publish? Wow, that could get pretty tiring having to test and re-test every car! But, you have to hand it to them, they want to get the best numbers possible for every car they test. Oh wait, never mind, they only do that for the hallowed mustang.

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BigDan Drives: bug Join Date: May 2009 Location: nv Posts: 1,319	^ The SS doesn't have the traction problems that the GT500 encountered on that test car, on that test track, on that day. MT's first test of the SS was their best during the winter video running LS3 13.0@111mph and L99 in 13.1 They could of gotten a lot better mph on the GT500. Mine runs 118's consistently hot lapping it in the summer. Just wait until Evan Smith gets a hold of one at E-town.

07-31-2010, 05:17 PM	#8203
SS420 Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS/RS Cyber Grey 6M Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Posts: 55 View My Garage	Ok, this is what we found out. When the 5.0 is mashed to the max...it's receiving 86% throttle. Has something to do with the drive-by-wire. When that's manipulated....to where you are getting the full 100% from the car. The Mustang 5.0 puts down 400RWHP!!! At the stock 86%..your getting about 365RWHP. Either way....I feel cheated. I had my MT SS dynoed on a Mustand Dyno...and I got 358.7RWHP.