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allmotor · 08-02-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kilo-9

Maryland Speed offers even better pricing on Kooks systems if you call them...ask for Branden.

+1

Anthony@ARH · 08-02-2010, 12:27 PM

If you dont want to be loud stay with the stock mufflers. If you want a little bit a volume at idle, about stock sound crusing and increased volume at WOT then my mufflers are the way to go. I would say we are 4 a.m. friendly as long as you aren't leaving the neighborhood on the rev limiter!

thespymaster · 08-02-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony@ARH

This is the first I have ever heard of our system hanging low and since OrangeChevyII isn't a dealer I'm not sure how much experience you would actually have here. A statement like that warrants some proof. Until then all the guys putting together package cars uses ARH stuff because we have the best product out period.

I will post detail pictures of the ARH package being installed this week on Veteran 1...

Cam 427 · 08-02-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by StlRomAniaN

How would American Racing headers w/ x-pipe connect? I know stock piping has to be used, but does the end of the headers connect/bolt-on? Or is there welding involved?

I installed the ARH 1 7/8 headers with cats and X pipe. The collectors and other joints are connected with strap type clamps (does not crimp pipe and allow for easy disassembly). If you use your stock mufflers cuts are made aft of the tunnel brace and the X pipe is connected there. The x pipe has extensions with a ball type joint (X pipe connection) and a slip fit into stock exhaust.
Very nice system, though I would recommend the full system if you like more exhaust volume.

Georger · 08-02-2010, 02:39 PM

Hello Guys. We here at Kooks Custom Headers take allot of pride in what we produce for our clients. We offer a few different variations of the 2010 Camaro system based on the research and demographics we performed prior to releasing the system. We made multiple systems so the consumer can make an educated decision based on personal preference and research performed on the web. We have been building headers and exhaust for over 45 years we use US sourced 304 from a mill that is located less then a half of mile away. The cats we use on the Camaro kits are a 400 cell per inch 200 more then the competitors. Yet we can produce the same if not more power. What this means to you as a consumer our catts in an emission stand point will burn more hydrocarbines an hour. So if that is inferior components can some one please explain? If you or anyone out there have a question about our system please feel free to call me direct at 704 768 2271. If it is after hours please pm me your number and I will make the time to call you to address your needs or concerns. Thanks George R

caverman · 08-02-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcjlp

Caverman,

I am going for quiet. My only reason for doing headers is for performance. I intend to supercharge in the spring. So anything I get will only beome louder. I'm not a kid and I live in a very quiet neighborhood. This is my daily driver. I leave for work before 4am. The last thing I want is to blast my neighborhood every morning.

I used to have a neighbor that had a harley with the loudest pipes he could find. Every time the weather was decent he was outside working on that damn thing. I hated it. To this day, I just shake my head when I see someone running an obnoxiously loud exhaust. Most of the time it's on a piece of crap.

Here is another option for you if you want to stay on the quieter side. TX Speed uses the Magnaflow Street series. This might be the best deal for what you are looking for. Do a Search on them in the forums and you'll find a bunch of threads.

http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp...=1082&catid=20

usmcjlp · 08-02-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by caverman

Here is another option for you if you want to stay on the quieter side. TX Speed uses the Magnaflow Street series. This might be the best deal for what you are looking for. Do a Search on them in the forums and you'll find a bunch of threads.

http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp...=1082&catid=20

Thanks for the link. I will call today. I have been jammed at work. Hopefully I can call before COB today.

*GTAHVIT* · 08-02-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeChevyII

ARH headers have problems with the collectors hanging to low, Kooks is the way to go.

I speak from experience, I see this all the time with ARH.

Mine don't.

Either way, these are both great systems.

I went with ARH, And couldn't be happier. But, you can't go wrong with either one.

Blade · 08-02-2010, 03:17 PM

I know this is a v8 thread, but I have the ARH LTs on my 1LT and they don't hang low at all. Unless you lower the car by using shorter springs or adjustable struts, then you don't have to worry about the tubes hanging too low at the stock height.

usmcjlp · 08-02-2010, 06:20 PM

I actually have Pedder's Coilovers on my vehicle. I am about 2 inches below stock.

A.R. Headers · 08-02-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by usmcjlp

I actually have Pedder's Coilovers on my vehicle. I am about 2 inches below stock.

usmcjlp, Lowering the vehicle is not an issue with ARH. Most of the packaged 2010 Camaro's from Hennessey, Nickey, Redline, LMR etc... are lowered. It's never been a problem with them nor will it with you.

Nick

usmcjlp · 08-02-2010, 08:08 PM

Nick,

Thanks for your response. I spoke with you last week and you were very helpful. It's nice to be able to call and speak to a real person.

usmcjlp · 08-03-2010, 07:46 PM

Thanks to everyone who helped me out with this. After comparing all the systems, I basically concluded that all the reputable brands of headers would yield similar horsepower results. I chose to keep the stock axle back exhaust to avoid any issue with drone. I can always switch the mufflers later.

Brandon at Maryland Speed gave me a much better price than anyone else who I spoke with.

I chose the Kooks 1 7/8" headers and cats. With the money I saved I can easily buy an LS9 cam and BMR's full suspension bushing kit.

I think I am going to take the plunge and go ahead and supercharge.

MarylandSpeed · 08-04-2010, 03:48 AM

Congrats and Thanks for the order!

Quote:

Originally Posted by usmcjlp

Thanks to everyone who helped me out with this. After comparing all the systems, I basically concluded that all the reputable brands of headers would yield similar horsepower results. I chose to keep the stock axle back exhaust to avoid any issue with drone. I can always switch the mufflers later.

Brandon at Maryland Speed gave me a much better price than anyone else who I spoke with.

I chose the Kooks 1 7/8" headers and cats. With the money I saved I can easily buy an LS9 cam and BMR's full suspension bushing kit.

I think I am going to take the plunge and go ahead and supercharge.

08-02-2010, 03:17 PM	#51
Blade Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS BVM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Charlotte Posts: 4,689 View My Garage	I know this is a v8 thread, but I have the ARH LTs on my 1LT and they don't hang low at all. Unless you lower the car by using shorter springs or adjustable struts, then you don't have to worry about the tubes hanging too low at the stock height. __________________ Formerly owner of: 2012 2SS/RS Build Thread - Totaled by red light runner 2010 LT/RS Build Thread - Traded in for 2012 2SS 2007 Acura TSX 1992 Oldsmobile Achieva V6 1992 Mercury Sable

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08-02-2010, 12:27 PM	#44
Anthony@ARH Drives: Black s2000, 749 ducati dark Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NY Posts: 110	If you dont want to be loud stay with the stock mufflers. If you want a little bit a volume at idle, about stock sound crusing and increased volume at WOT then my mufflers are the way to go. I would say we are 4 a.m. friendly as long as you aren't leaving the neighborhood on the rev limiter!

08-02-2010, 02:39 PM	#47
Georger Drives: 1979 camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 60	Hello Guys. We here at Kooks Custom Headers take allot of pride in what we produce for our clients. We offer a few different variations of the 2010 Camaro system based on the research and demographics we performed prior to releasing the system. We made multiple systems so the consumer can make an educated decision based on personal preference and research performed on the web. We have been building headers and exhaust for over 45 years we use US sourced 304 from a mill that is located less then a half of mile away. The cats we use on the Camaro kits are a 400 cell per inch 200 more then the competitors. Yet we can produce the same if not more power. What this means to you as a consumer our catts in an emission stand point will burn more hydrocarbines an hour. So if that is inferior components can some one please explain? If you or anyone out there have a question about our system please feel free to call me direct at 704 768 2271. If it is after hours please pm me your number and I will make the time to call you to address your needs or concerns. Thanks George R

08-02-2010, 06:20 PM	#52
usmcjlp Drives: 2SS/RS LS3 RJT Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 754	I actually have Pedder's Coilovers on my vehicle. I am about 2 inches below stock.

08-02-2010, 08:08 PM	#54
usmcjlp Drives: 2SS/RS LS3 RJT Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 754	Nick, Thanks for your response. I spoke with you last week and you were very helpful. It's nice to be able to call and speak to a real person.

08-03-2010, 07:46 PM	#55
usmcjlp Drives: 2SS/RS LS3 RJT Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 754	Thanks to everyone who helped me out with this. After comparing all the systems, I basically concluded that all the reputable brands of headers would yield similar horsepower results. I chose to keep the stock axle back exhaust to avoid any issue with drone. I can always switch the mufflers later. Brandon at Maryland Speed gave me a much better price than anyone else who I spoke with. I chose the Kooks 1 7/8" headers and cats. With the money I saved I can easily buy an LS9 cam and BMR's full suspension bushing kit. I think I am going to take the plunge and go ahead and supercharge.