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camaro1 · 07-19-2010, 08:18 PM

tech2 works great on the 2010 camaro,, i use mine all the time on my camaro,, you just have to build the vehicle as a 2009 pontiac g8 or a 2009-10 corvette, or a cadillac CTS-v

victoryred1ss · 07-21-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro1

tech2 works great on the 2010 camaro,, i use mine all the time on my camaro,, you just have to build the vehicle as a 2009 pontiac g8 or a 2009-10 corvette, or a cadillac CTS-v

Thanks for the info.. I have never tried it, I was told by GM that the Tech 2 will not work. That makes it much easier than using the MDI and logging on through Tis2web.

speedy_g · 07-22-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilKnightFalcon

Official response from Vince:

1. Our selectable tune feature (traction control button) is available only on the LNF (2.0 turbo). The LLT uses a very similar ECM but we have not implemented a selectable tune feature for the LLT code yet.

2. The LNF tune is a “ghost tune” but the LLT tune is not. As such, we generally recommend that people purchasing our LLT tune also purchase the programming cable so they can revert the car to stock programming at any time (using a Windows laptop computer) they need to visit the dealer. The dealer has no way to check the reflash history, only whether the current tune loaded in the ECM is stock, or not.

3. Yes (however see below for more on this)

4. We saw 23HP and 17TQ gain on the very first LLT we tuned. We were doing the happy dance when we got those numbers initially, but some other people ordered the tune and went to the dyno and saw lower gains. We figured out the reason we got such a large gain on the first car was due to the intake system completely screwing up the fuel ratio at full throttle (it was WAY too lean). What kind of gains can you expect? It depends on how much work the tune needs. I can’t promise you any particular numbers, but I can promise you by the time we are done tuning your car will reach 100% of its potential, and this will be proven by the datalogs we get during the tuning process.

Elaborating on the topic of the CEL and engine codes Vince informed me that reverting to stock settings when you take it back to the dealer means that your dealer is going to see the CEL and engine codes caused by your aftermarket products like headers, intakes, etc. So really it comes down to what is going to get you in more trouble with your dealer warranty wise.

Good stuff thanks !

camaro guy · 08-02-2010, 04:45 PM

so let me ask this. i have bbk lt's and slp mufflers on my LS. no future mods planned. i get the "too rich" CEL. i want to correct the AFR, get rid of CEL, eliminate the deacceleration fuel shutoff, and eliminate my 118MPH limiter. can trifecta do this all and do i ever have to dyno? how do you datalog? thank you in advance for the help.

victoryred1ss · 08-03-2010, 08:03 PM

He should be able to do all that stuff on your Camaro. Jump on Trifecta.com (I think that is the website) and check out the info on there. Also there is a section that shows all the data logging people he has and the area they service.

camaro guy · 08-03-2010, 08:25 PM

So I can't data log myself? I'm not looking to pay anymore than the $600 the tune and cable costs.

camaro guy · 08-03-2010, 08:26 PM

Oh btw I've checked out the website and emailed them that question multiple times over the past 6 months with no reply to any.

mydreamcar · 08-03-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro guy

so let me ask this. i have bbk lt's and slp mufflers on my LS. no future mods planned. i get the "too rich" CEL. i want to correct the AFR, get rid of CEL, eliminate the deacceleration fuel shutoff, and eliminate my 118MPH limiter. can trifecta do this all and do i ever have to dyno? how do you datalog? thank you in advance for the help.

I spoke to vince about that a few months ago as I hoping to have a similar set up soon, yes he can do all of that but you must show that you changed the tires to a higher speed rating before he will do the speed increase

DevilKnightFalcon · 08-03-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro guy

so let me ask this. i have bbk lt's and slp mufflers on my LS. no future mods planned. i get the "too rich" CEL. i want to correct the AFR, get rid of CEL, eliminate the deacceleration fuel shutoff, and eliminate my 118MPH limiter. can trifecta do this all and do i ever have to dyno? how do you datalog? thank you in advance for the help.

Yes I believe it can do all of that. Keep in mind Trifecta is closed for a couple weeks in August so if you're not getting a reply that's why.

victoryred1ss · 08-04-2010, 03:37 PM

I just had one of his authorized people do it with his own tuner, cost me like $300 and he has tuned it 3 different times for that price. You can also buy the tuner and do it yourself

DSteck · 08-05-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by camaro guy

thats really cheap. only authorized dealer in st louis doesnt work on 2010 camaros

Who did you try to contact? $600 for what you need to get done is highway freaking robbery.

Edit: Just realized you have a V6, which is poorly supported in the tuning segment.

DevilKnightFalcon · 08-05-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DSteck

Who did you try to contact? $600 for what you need to get done is highway freaking robbery.

Edit: Just realized you have a V6, which is poorly supported in the tuning segment.

$600 is for the full kit so he could even then do it for other people and charge them. That's the benefit for Trifecta of being the only tune available. It seems that most "authorized Trifecta Tuners" charge about $300 to $350 but keep in mind these are individuals based out of their house so if they move you are screwed. Not to mention everytime you go back to the dealer you have to meet up with the tuner first to have them revert you to stock.

PoorMansCamaro · 10-07-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by victoryred1ss

The SS cobalts have the tune activated by the traction control button. My tune is always activated (LS3). Vince can delete all the long tube header codes, plus ship shift on manuals. I think you will see less than 15 rwhp on your V-6 and as far as I know GM can detect the tune. I had Vince tune my Camaro a few months back and have no complaints

I'm sorry, can you, or someone, explain the bolded part?

Frost · 10-08-2010, 01:26 AM

skip shift or CAGS, forces a shift from first to fourth at light throttle.

07-19-2010, 08:18 PM	#29
camaro1 Drives: 550+RWHP 2010 camaro Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,588	tech2 works great on the 2010 camaro,, i use mine all the time on my camaro,, you just have to build the vehicle as a 2009 pontiac g8 or a 2009-10 corvette, or a cadillac CTS-v __________________ 415ci stroker, TVS 2300 Magnacharger, cnc heads, cam, yank ss3200 converter, Kooks long tubes, Bwoody true cold air kit, ZL1 Pump, magnaflow 3" cat-back, lowering springs,BMR control arms and tie rod bars, 3.73 gears, diff mounts, RX can, ADM fuel controller

08-03-2010, 08:03 PM	#33
victoryred1ss Drives: 2010 SS M6 2016 2SS A8 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 553	He should be able to do all that stuff on your Camaro. Jump on Trifecta.com (I think that is the website) and check out the info on there. Also there is a section that shows all the data logging people he has and the area they service. __________________ TVS 2300 721RWHP 686RWTQ Built by Me Suspension done by JDP Tune done by JRE

08-04-2010, 03:37 PM	#38
victoryred1ss Drives: 2010 SS M6 2016 2SS A8 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 553	I just had one of his authorized people do it with his own tuner, cost me like $300 and he has tuned it 3 different times for that price. You can also buy the tuner and do it yourself __________________ TVS 2300 721RWHP 686RWTQ Built by Me Suspension done by JDP Tune done by JRE

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08-02-2010, 04:45 PM	#32
camaro guy Drives: 2010 camaro LS Join Date: May 2009 Location: missouri Posts: 540 View My Garage	so let me ask this. i have bbk lt's and slp mufflers on my LS. no future mods planned. i get the "too rich" CEL. i want to correct the AFR, get rid of CEL, eliminate the deacceleration fuel shutoff, and eliminate my 118MPH limiter. can trifecta do this all and do i ever have to dyno? how do you datalog? thank you in advance for the help.

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camaro guy Drives: 2010 camaro LS Join Date: May 2009 Location: missouri Posts: 540 View My Garage	So I can't data log myself? I'm not looking to pay anymore than the $600 the tune and cable costs.

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camaro guy Drives: 2010 camaro LS Join Date: May 2009 Location: missouri Posts: 540 View My Garage	Oh btw I've checked out the website and emailed them that question multiple times over the past 6 months with no reply to any.

10-08-2010, 01:26 AM	#42
Frost Drives: GM anything Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tuning GM in Richmond VA Posts: 147	skip shift or CAGS, forces a shift from first to fourth at light throttle.