Manual Guy Thinking Auto - Tell U Why

[Amanda]

"manual guy thinking auto"?? haha I think the whole point of getting the manual is the feel and fun of it. I have the m6 and never once have I thought about wanting the auto instead. And besides, all the old guys with the automatic ss get jealous when the 22 yr old chick with the m6 shows up. Sorry dudes I dont have a wife that wants to be able to drive my car too

[ZCT]

Originally Posted by traderfjp

I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a new 2011 2SS. I drove the V6 Manual and a 2SS Auto. No one seems to have a Manual SS. Anyone I discovered that when shifting the manual it was very easy to hit the rev limiter in the car. This takes a lot of the fun out of a manual. The Auto has a Sports mode. Mash the pedal and go. Since I haven't driven the Manual 2SS I don't know if it feels faster and if the rev limiter is a non-issue. Since I don't tend to watch the tach and I like to drive the car hard, at times, I wonder if I'm better off with an Auto. Also, does the Auto have a rev limiter with the paddles? How limiting is the torque management on the Auto? Does taking the traction control off turn off TM?

Any opinionis from those of you who have driven both trannies?

I'm sure you'll get many opinions on this topic. Seems to stir people up.

I drove a stick for almost ten years when I lived in the UK, because that's just what they tend to do, most cars there are stick. So it's not like I don't know how.

I've driven the V6 and V8 Camaro, and just bought a 2011 2LT.

Sorry, but I can see no point in the stick, unless you are just one of those purists who think there is something manly about moving a gear leaver around.

The V8 Camaro is a monster, with sub 5 second 0-60. In sport mode both the V6 and V8 will quickly get you a speeding ticket. And you've still go the paddle shift option too.

For me I won't even consider a stick with such advanced autos around. But were I on the fence, I think the decider would be remote start. If you live anywhere that gets quite hot or cold, it is wonderful to be able to start the car a minute or few before you intend to get in the car. The A/C or heater can get things acceptable by the time you get in it.

Soon there will be an iPhone app that will even allow you to start your car without being able to see it. And it's only a matter of time before that same feature becomes available for other smart phones or even a web site.

All of those features are lost with a manual.

If an automatic V8 Camaro isn't fast enough for you, then I respectfully suggest you need to buy a sports car, not a big American muscle car.

[Dion_1969]

Originally Posted by Oldrocker

No need to cut off you sack, that is what us auto drivers hold on to when we drive. The stick driving guys.... well.... they have to make up for the lack of it somehow don't they?

Well you can play with your little stick or you can play with your big stick. I'll go from 0-60 in oh 4.7 seconds you about 2 or at least thats what I heard. I'm just saying- you hear things

[hummerman]

Stick if ya got a dick

Chicks drive auto's

[Dion_1969]

Originally Posted by StlRomAniaN

Because the L99 makes more power under the curve. The LS3 just peaks higher after ~5700 rpm.

Not sure what you are referring to. I think you are talking about the torque which does peak earlier in the A6 4300.

I dont know if anyone has mentioned this but I keep seeing the A6 guys talking about getting it tuned and it's a different beast. If you are going to the trouble of a tune then cant they just tune out the rev limiter in the M6? Also if you look at the dyno charts your max torque and HP all occur before you hit the rev limiter. If you want to keep in the highest performance range you would want to shift before 6500 anyway. You are just asking for valve float running it that high.

[Dion_1969]

Originally Posted by ZCT

I'm sure you'll get many opinions on this topic. Seems to stir people up.

I drove a stick for almost ten years when I lived in the UK, because that's just what they tend to do, most cars there are stick. So it's not like I don't know how.

I've driven the V6 and V8 Camaro, and just bought a 2011 2LT.

Sorry, but I can see no point in the stick, unless you are just one of those purists who think there is something manly about moving a gear leaver around.

The V8 Camaro is a monster, with sub 5 second 0-60. In sport mode both the V6 and V8 will quickly get you a speeding ticket. And you've still go the paddle shift option too.

For me I won't even consider a stick with such advanced autos around. But were I on the fence, I think the decider would be remote start. If you live anywhere that gets quite hot or cold, it is wonderful to be able to start the car a minute or few before you intend to get in the car. The A/C or heater can get things acceptable by the time you get in it.

Soon there will be an iPhone app that will even allow you to start your car without being able to see it. And it's only a matter of time before that same feature becomes available for other smart phones or even a web site.

All of those features are lost with a manual.

If an automatic V8 Camaro isn't fast enough for you, then I respectfully suggest you need to buy a sports car, not a big American muscle car.

Now that is a valid point! all the rest of this is really just a bunch of smack talk that is fun to read and take part in. You would think that they could make the manual smart enough to know that it is in neutral with the parking brake on though! Summer in Florida and a black interior can get brutal.

[ramsman34]

Drove both at the lot (2010's) and the M6 sounded better, had more torque and get-off, felt like I was driving a camaro. I drove the auto first and was unimpressed as I had just driven the 2011 5.0 auto 'Stang which bitch-slapped the L99, IMO - and you couldn't give me a stang. Then I drove the M6 with ZERO intention of getting a manual tranny ( I live and work in L.A.; the stop and go, rubber necking, 10 mph on the freeway capital of the planet). After 5 mins in the M6 car I was hooked. I bought the 2011 2SS/RS M6 and you can't wipe the smile of my face

[2ss-booya]

No one seems to have a Manual SS.

Isn't the 6m 2ss the most commonly picked option?

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by jagan323

If you were getting a V6, I would say go ahead on the Automatic. Fastest times for the V6 on the 1/4mile track have been won by automatics.

But if you are getting a V8, do NOT get the automatic. You are getting a L99 Engine, where as the manual offers a LS3. LS3 is more powerful. If I could own both V8 and V6, i'd get a V8 Manual and a V6 auto.

V8 for sporty, and speed... V6 for Daily driver, cruising

thats what i believe in as well...

[phenixdragon]

I have an idea on how not to hit the limiter so quickly. Take out the motor and put in a motorcycle motor. It will rev up slower because it has less power to move the car, and motorcycles rev a lot higher.

What type of complaint is hitting the rev limit so quickly? That is showing you it has a lot of power to get the car up there! Any fast car hits the rev limit quickly.

And the paddle shifters are useless. There isn’t a point for them.

If you like manuals better then get a manual. You will enjoy it more.

[Rage]

Originally Posted by mhood

Well, you do have the added weight of your European Shoulder Bag to deal with. I guess you'd better go with the auto. Besides, you'll have one hand free at all times to check your makeup.

Sooo funny.....cuz its true!

[bi11ymc]

Originally Posted by phenixdragon

I have an idea on how not to hit the limiter so quickly. Take out the motor and put in a motorcycle motor. It will rev up slower because it has less power to move the car, and motorcycles rev a lot higher.

What type of complaint is hitting the rev limit so quickly? That is showing you it has a lot of power to get the car up there! Any fast car hits the rev limit quickly.

And the paddle shifters are useless. There isn’t a point for them.

If you like manuals better then get a manual. You will enjoy it more.

The automatic won't let you shift into a gear that cause you to over-rev. It says 'shift denied'

[robsls3]

Originally Posted by mhood

Why don't you hit him with your European Shoulder Bag?

[Jose]

Originally Posted by mlee

The auto does have rev limiters w/ the "useless" paddles. TM is very limiting but a quick tune really opens it up. Traction control does not turn off TM... only a tune will do that. Bottom line is get the Auto tuned and you will have a beast...

Yes, this is 100% right, I got my car tuned and believe me, it is a totally different car!!! From 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd it scraches the tires!!! I stick to the AT correctly tuned.