GM Reveals Small-Block V-8 with Direct Injection - wardsauto.com

[AirGoya]

Originally Posted by Massive_Payne

But honey, I bought it for the gas milage!! Is it my fault it goes fast too??

Great post, Dragon!

That would be a good commercial ^
Is it my fault that it has 450hp?

[Jeanius]

If GM is going to put a more desirable engine in it the next year, I would think that's gonna hurt first year sales

[egyptiandevil]

to add I guess:

According to WardsAuto’s multiple Camaro crazy forums, are saying that GM is running test mules of a Camaro with their new fifth-generation small block 6.2 liter direct injection V8 that produces upward of 500 horsepower.

The engine which is currently powering the Cadillac Escalade, GMC Yukon Denali and the 2008 Corvette, could produce 10 percent low-end torque along with an increase in fuel economy for the Camaro.


Another speculation is that the Camaro may get a hybrid variant. A recent report said that a GM source has told the Detroit Free Press that a Chevrolet Camaro hybrid is definitely feasible. It would require GM using their production-ready hybrid technology that hits the roads this fall matted with a small-block V8 engine.

[MerF]

Originally Posted by Jeanius

If GM is going to put a more desirable engine in it the next year, I would think that's gonna hurt first year sales

Not if they don't tell the public about it...hence us knowing NOTHING about the actual release of the Camaro. That's just how it is though in the auto industry.

[LSxcellent]

Fact of the matter is, once the Camaro comes out, it SHOULD have 500hp based on the current rise in HP. If the CURRENT 6.2L LS3 makes 430 HP, then in 2-3 years, it SHOULD be making 500hp EASY!

Think about it, in 2002, the Z06 Corvette made 400hp. 5 years later its at 505hp.

That's 20hp/year... so if we start with a 430hp LS3, and add 20hp/year then the 2010 engine SHOULD be making about 490hp (or round up) 500hp!

That works out just right. Plus, this technology is a nice low risk, high-benefit way to achieve that goal... AND it makes the same power as the current LS7 while costing a lot less.

Good times man, good times.

~LSx

[JusticePete]

GM has some very exciting product coming and some really HIGH HP power plants. The people in GM development and racing are having WAY too much fun!

[Just a Skidmark]

:eek: hmm, I think I might have to buy twelve camaros now :eek:

[camarosc35]

Awesome to hear the eight-cylinder will be kept around, bigger, badder and fuel-efficient to pacify the environmentalists and people who simply don't like the muscle car crowd.

[SSlick]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I -.....I'm-......

I'm lost for words...I know that the LS3 just came out...but this is what I've been dreaming about! a 6.2L 450+hp (in a truck) aluminum, DI, VVT, AFM, small block capable of running on E85.

Bring me my brown pants!

hopefully somebody has heard the joke??

[Kenz Camaro]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

What I want to know, is will the LS3 get some of this new tech since it's a Gen IV, or will we have to wait another year to get the Gen V engine??? If they build the Camaro w/ anything other than the LS3 for the first year, I'm holding off. Let's say they then build the Camaro w/ LS3. But, the Gen V's come out the following year.....see where I'm coming from?? jeez...

Hey Tag,
The way I read it is; the '08 Vette and hybrid Tahoe will be the LAST of the Gen IV motors built. Then they move on to Gen V's:
"Fortunately, timing is on the auto maker’s side. The recent introduction of the ’08 Corvette’s 430-hp LS3 V-8, along with the release later this year of the ’08 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid’s 6.0L V-8, represent the last editions of the Gen IV engine family, Stephens says."
So to me it sounds like the Camaro may see the Gen V motor after all, no?
Ken

[SSlick]

^^^ Thats what I was thinking.

[Aptom]

Originally Posted by LSxcellent

Fact of the matter is, once the Camaro comes out, it SHOULD have 500hp based on the current rise in HP. If the CURRENT 6.2L LS3 makes 430 HP, then in 2-3 years, it SHOULD be making 500hp EASY!

Think about it, in 2002, the Z06 Corvette made 400hp. 5 years later its at 505hp.

That's 20hp/year... so if we start with a 430hp LS3, and add 20hp/year then the 2010 engine SHOULD be making about 490hp (or round up) 500hp!

That works out just right. Plus, this technology is a nice low risk, high-benefit way to achieve that goal... AND it makes the same power as the current LS7 while costing a lot less.

Good times man, good times.

~LSx

With that said i am glad that i decided on buying mine in 2011 now!

[night_kidd]

aww man now this kinda makes me want to have to wait for the next few upcoming camaros. Any news on the inside stating they will put this on the first wave of camaros they release in 09?

[2K05GT]

you all understand that with Horsepower comes high Price right.
a 450 - 500 hp Camaro will be in the 40K range. thats like 750.00 -850.00 per month how many can afford that?

There is no way they can offer a camaro with a new engine with 450hp under 35K. I think the first few years they will offer proven cheap options then offer new tech later.

Ford did the same thing.
1996 -2004 Mustang V8
4.6L 2 Valve SOHC - 260 / 302 (GT) [25K]
4.6L 4 Valve DOHC - 310 / 330 (Mach 1) [29K]
4.6L 4 Valve DOHC - 420 / 420 Supercharged Cobra [33K]

2005 -2006 Mustang V8
4.6L 3 Valve SOHC - 300 / 320 (GT)[28K]

2007-2008 Mustang V8
4.6L 3 Valve SOHC - 300 / 320 (GT) [29K]
4.6L 3 Valve SOHC - 325 / 340 (GT-H, Shelby GT) [32K]
5.0L 3 Valve SOHC - 370 / 370 (Saleen Parnelli Jones) [48K]
5.4L 4 Valve DOHC - 500 / 540 Supercharged GT 500 [43K]

2009 Mustang V8
4.6L 4 Valve DOHC - 340 / 360 (GT) [32K]
5.4L 4 Valve DOHC - 400 / 450 (Bullitt, Mach 1) [40K]
5.4L 4 Valve DOHC - 500 / 540 Supercharged GT 500 [45K]
5.4L 4 Valve DOHC - 540 / 550 Supercharged GT 500KR [49K]