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*radz28* · 08-31-2010, 04:45 PM

Caliman93230 · 08-31-2010, 05:45 PM

2010SSRSM6 · 08-31-2010, 06:18 PM

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Caliman93230 · 08-31-2010, 07:53 PM

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*TAG UR IT* · 09-01-2010, 01:06 AM

usmcjlp · 09-01-2010, 07:10 AM

I talked to Tim yesterday. Hopefully, he can get the car on the dyno today.

So what do you guys think, LS9 cam or Custom Cam grind with more duration and lift?

GMRULZ · 09-01-2010, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by usmcjlp

I talked to Tim yesterday. Hopefully, he can get the car on the dyno today.

So what do you guys think, LS9 cam or Custom Cam grind with more duration and lift?

Unless you are ready to start shelling out driveline money I would say LS9. If you already have those in your budget then the custom grind. At least thats how I would look at it.

nl12 · 09-01-2010, 07:40 AM

Go big or go home.

usmcjlp · 09-01-2010, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GMRULZ

Unless you are ready to start shelling out driveline money I would say LS9. If you already have those in your budget then the custom grind. At least thats how I would look at it.

My goal has always been to get the most power of my Camaro without affecting the reliability or making it drive poorly.

I don't want a rough idle, like what I've heard on this thread with really aggressive cams. I wouldn't mind a little bit of lope that smooths out at cruise rpms.

I am waiting on the next dyno numbers to decide. We were already at 560 rwhp based on the dynojet runs. I wonder what LT headers, high flow cats, and a CAI will do. I imagine that should get us close to 600 at the wheels.

I chose the cooling mist system and the innovate db A/F ratio gauge kit to protect the motor against early detonation or in case I get a tank of low octane gas. If cooling mist's claims of additional horsepower hold up then we should see more gain. Now, I don't intend to drag race my car. I have spoken to Tim and the cooling mist will be used more as a safety measure.

I do have a question about cams, for those with a lot of experience. My understanding is that the stock cam is not designed for supercharged applications. Switching to any blower cam will make the engine more effiicient by lowering restriction and lower the boost level as a result. Is this correct?

If this is true than it will actually reduce the strain on the motor correct? I have seen a lot of guys do awesome builds on these cars and then sell them soon after. I have never kept a car less than 12 years. So my intent is to build it right and keep it in my garage.

usmcjlp · 09-01-2010, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nl12

Go big or go home.

I see you have the same personality as me.

usmcjlp · 09-01-2010, 07:58 AM

The tough part is the talk of drivetrain issues. I've seen guys here who are at stock power levels and break stuff. Then there are cars like Ted Jannetty's at over 700rwhp, which gets drag raced a lot on a stock drive train and he hasn't broken anything.

My guess, it's all in how you drive.

GMRULZ · 09-01-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by usmcjlp

My goal has always been to get the most power of my Camaro without affecting the reliability or making it drive poorly.

I don't want a rough idle, like what I've heard on this thread with really aggressive cams. I wouldn't mind a little bit of lope that smooths out at cruise rpms.

I am waiting on the next dyno numbers to decide. We were already at 560 rwhp based on the dynojet runs. I wonder what LT headers, high flow cats, and a CAI will do. I imagine that should get us close to 600 at the wheels.

I chose the cooling mist system and the innovate db A/F ratio gauge kit to protect the motor against early detonation or in case I get a tank of low octane gas. If cooling mist's claims of additional horsepower hold up then we should see more gain. Now, I don't intend to drag race my car. I have spoken to Tim and the cooling mist will be used more as a safety measure.

I do have a question about cams, for those with a lot of experience. My understanding is that the stock cam is not designed for supercharged applications. Switching to any blower cam will make the engine more effiicient by lowering restriction and lower the boost level as a result. Is this correct?

If this is true than it will actually reduce the strain on the motor correct? I have seen a lot of guys do awesome builds on these cars and then sell them soon after. I have never kept a car less than 12 years. So my intent is to build it right and keep it in my garage.

you are correct in the fact that our cams are not designed w/ boost in mind. As far as strain on the motor at a particular power level ie 600rwhp there is the same strain so to speak on the motor. The difference is you will be at lower boost w/ a ls9 or blower cam than your stock cam at the same power level and won`t have to worry as much about detonation if tuned properly. So there would be less chance of engine damage from detonation. Hower you may put a little more stress on your valvetrain potentially w/ a larger cam. I doubt it w/ the LS9 cam, but a decent sized blower cam may, it really depends on the specs quite honestly.

usmcjlp · 09-01-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GMRULZ

you are correct in the fact that our cams are not designed w/ boost in mind. As far as strain on the motor at a particular power level ie 600rwhp there is the same strain so to speak on the motor. The difference is you will be at lower boost w/ a ls9 or blower cam than your stock cam at the same power level and won`t have to worry as much about detonation if tuned properly. So there would be less chance of engine damage from detonation. Hower you may put a little more stress on your valvetrain potentially w/ a larger cam. I doubt it w/ the LS9 cam, but a decent sized blower cam may, it really depends on the specs quite honestly.

My other concern, which may seem ridiculous at these power levels, is gas mileage. From what others have said, with FI gas mileage is not really affected in normal driving. Will a larger cam profile completely drop my gas mileage, regardless of driving habits?

tandtperformance · 09-01-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by usmcjlp

The tough part is the talk of drivetrain issues. I've seen guys here who are at stock power levels and break stuff. Then there are cars like Ted Jannetty's at over 700rwhp, which gets drag raced a lot on a stock drive train and he hasn't broken anything.

My guess, it's all in how you drive.

TED IS ALSO RUNNING 15" SLICKS SO THAT BIG SIDEWALL TAKES ALOT OF THE SHOCK

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usmcjlp Drives: 2SS/RS LS3 RJT Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 754	I talked to Tim yesterday. Hopefully, he can get the car on the dyno today. So what do you guys think, LS9 cam or Custom Cam grind with more duration and lift?

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usmcjlp Drives: 2SS/RS LS3 RJT Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 754	The tough part is the talk of drivetrain issues. I've seen guys here who are at stock power levels and break stuff. Then there are cars like Ted Jannetty's at over 700rwhp, which gets drag raced a lot on a stock drive train and he hasn't broken anything. My guess, it's all in how you drive.