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Old 12-30-2008, 03:58 PM   #29
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I know it's been ask before but I don't remember seeing an answer...do we know the total number of allocations for the Mar - Sep 09 run?

Seems I remember seeing 20K or something but was expected to be more V6 than V8. Something like 5K or so would only be V8.

I'm sure the percentages on these preorders are heavy, heavy V8 (like 7 out of every 10) and if that's the case, will all the V8s be produced this year, again Mar - Sep 09?
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Old 12-30-2008, 04:09 PM   #30
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Time for someone in Canada to chime in and tell us how many a shift can make. I do not see GM running more than 1 shift do to money issues.
Running more than one shift is not necessarily a monetary issue; running overtime instead of another shift is an issue.


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Which brings up an interesting thought....

If they were projecting to build 100,000 of these things a year, that means they only have enough orders to fill in around 1 month of production. Would that mean (in theory) that every one of those that ordered will see their car within the first two months or so after February 16th?
Not a snowball's chance in hell. My opinion only.

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There was a lot of discussion on this a few months ago. The fact is that the factory is not going to start pumping out 300 cars a day starting on 2/16. There is some amount of time needed to ramp the production. Plus, add in there that it is unclear to the public at this point if the plant is going to run 3 shifts of this car or not. So chances are that production will start out slowly and ramp up as everyone becomes more comfortable with the production. I believe they were at something like 6-8 per day at last check. That is a long way from 300.

My best guess based on various posts and podcasts, NOT ON ANY 1ST HAND KNOWLEDGE, is that it'll take well into May before they're even approaching "full" capacity. That would put the "10,000 car on order" delivery well into June, maybe into July IMO. Unfortunately, this isn't "let's pop another 20k Impalas out boys". I don't remember the total number supposedly in the initial allotment numbers that went out but keep in mind those were into September and it wasn't any crazy 100k number, nor 50k, nor even 20k IIRC. Remember that this is a 2010 vehicle. They bought themselves another 4 months of production to get to the magic 100k number by releasing it in Feb09.

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okay. maybe im stupid but here's what im thinking.

All the camaro orders were for before september. So If 10,000 camaros were sold, and they need to be distributed before september.

Thats six months. So they would have to build 1666 cars a month.
I dont know how many days a week they work, so let's just say 5 days, and 20 days a month.

So in order to get our cars before september wouldnt they have to atleast build 83 cars a day?

Everyone on here who ordered is expecting their car in March, April Or May.

If they only build 6 cars a day. we will be waiting a while, and there will be a lot of disappointed people.
There will be a lot of disappointed people no matter how you cut it. If most of the threads on initial allotments are correct, someone who ordered two months ago at a dealer with only 4 cars allotted, and they happen to be number 4, probably won't see their car until July. The person who is number 4 at Classic Chevy, with almost 70 allotted, will most likely have theirs by mid-March. Just the way it is.
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Old 12-30-2008, 04:13 PM   #31
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I know it's been ask before but I don't remember seeing an answer...do we know the total number of allocations for the Mar - Sep 09 run?

Seems I remember seeing 20K or something but was expected to be more V6 than V8. Something like 5K or so would only be V8.

I'm sure the percentages on these preorders are heavy, heavy V8 (like 7 out of every 10) and if that's the case, will all the V8s be produced this year, again Mar - Sep 09?
If I can find it I'll post the link but it was said somewhere, by John Fitzpatrick I think that they could build to orders regardless of the V6/V8 percentage makeup. Only after "sold orders" would they adjust the percentages.
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Old 12-30-2008, 04:43 PM   #32
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I know GM has said in the past that they were targeting 80K to 100K camaros a year. But that was very early on and I'm betting with all the economical stuggles they will probably adjust that to whatever then think they can sell. It might still be 80 to 100K.

But I'm not as sure as I used to be that is what they are shooting for now. FWIW
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Old 12-30-2008, 04:55 PM   #33
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As strange as it sounds, I would like to not see mine until the end of April at the earliest. Before this and I would have to find a place to store it until the better whether comes in, as this baby will not see salt.

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Old 12-30-2008, 04:59 PM   #34
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I'm wishing for April 1st earliest
But you could have 27 coats of Meguiar's on it by the time the snow stops if you get it earlier...
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Old 12-30-2008, 05:30 PM   #35
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thats what she said?
LOL your not supposed to say things like that!
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Old 12-30-2008, 06:22 PM   #36
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okay. maybe im stupid but here's what im thinking.

All the camaro orders were for before september. So If 10,000 camaros were sold, and they need to be distributed before september.

Thats six months. So they would have to build 1666 cars a month.
I dont know how many days a week they work, so let's just say 5 days, and 20 days a month.

So in order to get our cars before september wouldnt they have to atleast build 83 cars a day?

Everyone on here who ordered is expecting their car in March, April Or May.

If they only build 6 cars a day. we will be waiting a while, and there will be a lot of disappointed people.

Based on everything we have heard on this forum the last week or so regarding GM's "potential" difficulties, anyone who has any expectations of this car being delivered when it is supposed to be is due for a really big let down.

We should just "keep the faith" we get them in 2009.

On a side note, is anyone else taking a bashing from friends or co-workers about how poorly the camaro release has gone? I am, almost daily.
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Old 12-30-2008, 06:25 PM   #37
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Based on everything we have heard on this forum the last week or so regarding GM's "potential" difficulties, anyone who has any expectations of this car being delivered when it is supposed to be is due for a really big let down.

We should just "keep the faith" we get them in 2009.

On a side note, is anyone else taking a bashing from friends or co-workers about how poorly the camaro release has gone? I am, almost daily.
Man your posts are a really big let down. Be positive Bro
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Man your posts are a really big let down. Be positive Bro
Yeah, you're right. Sorry.

I need to stay off this site for a week or so. I am just so disappointed that after all the hype we are most likely going to have to wait even longer.

Hey, maybe this will all get resolved and production exceeds our expectations and GM actually blows us away with our pre ordered cars by April 1st!
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Old 12-30-2008, 06:39 PM   #39
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GM's total allocation (pre-orders) through Q3 was, I believe, 15,000, meaning they'll initially build about 100/day, 500/wk. But since no one knows their exact position it the build order, which is not solely dependent on order date, anyone's delivery date is just a guess. And the Cadence Innovation situation clouds that even further. So, with 10,000 ordered, that leaves 5,000 to possibly become dealer lot cars, but that translates into little more than one or two per dealership, so regardless of delivery date, we should be the first ones on the street in the new Camaro.

On this site http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8302 we show the SS running at 82% of total orders, although we've been told by fbodfather that is not a problem, and it makes sense they would've expected that with all the enthusiasts ordering first. So just try to be positive!
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GM's total allocation (pre-orders) through Q3 was, I believe, 15,000, meaning they'll initially build about 100/day, 500/wk. But since no one knows their exact position it the build order, which is not solely dependent on order date, anyone's delivery date is just a guess. And the Cadence Innovation situation clouds that even further. So, with 10,000 ordered, that leaves 5,000 to possibly become dealer lot cars, but that translates into little more than one or two per dealership, so regardless of delivery date, we should be the first ones on the street in the new Camaro.

On this site http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8302 we show the SS running at 82% of total orders, although we've been told by fbodfather that is not a problem, and it makes sense they would've expected that with all the enthusiasts ordering first. So just try to be positive!
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And the Cadence Innovation situation clouds that even further.
I'm being positive in the belief that GM will get an injunction against Cadence so they can get the tooling (that GM owns) to another vender in time for production.
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Back in October, General Motors reported that it had already received some 6,000 advance orders for its new fifth-gen Camaro. Despite the fact that the first car has yet to be delivered to a paying customer (that's scheduled to take place in February, with the first one selling at the upcoming Barret-Jackson auction next month), pre-orders are not slowing down, with GM now reporting a total of 10,000.

According to the automaker, 84 percent of the first 6,000 requests were for V8 models, but GM is now suggesting that a larger percentage of its latest orders are for V6 models. Sounds like those jonesing for a new V8-powered muscle car were the first ones turning in their order forms. Now that those initial buyers have all reserved their Camaros, the model mix may be getting closer to what The General had expected in the first place.

Hopefully, GM and supplier Cadence, LLC get their disagreements worked out in time and these initial pre-orders can be filled in a timely manner. The last thing GM needs right now is a botched launch of its revived pony car, especially since GM has been promoting the new Camaro hardcore for the last few years.
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