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Old 09-05-2010, 11:28 PM   #15
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Would mind explaining the beef to me? Even if its through a PM. Because I'm gonna be using their stuff on my car tomorrow. And there is something wrong with them i would like to know.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:40 PM   #16
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:21 AM   #17
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Meguiar's NXT 2.0, store bought (walmart, Kragen, autozone, etc), $15.00
Its cheap and looks good, but it will not protect you thru the winter.

I'd Recommend Zaino Z2pro or Z5pro. Also Collinite works great. Menzerna Powerlock, Optimum Opti-Seal work well too. And none of these are expensive.
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:26 AM   #18
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Its cheap and looks good, but it will not protect you thru the winter.

I'd Recommend Zaino Z2pro or Z5pro. Also Collinite works great. Menzerna Powerlock, Optimum Opti-Seal work well too. And none of these are expensive.
What is considered "expensive"?
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:00 AM   #19
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What is considered "expensive"?
I guess its relative to everyone, but each of the products I listed are under $30, except for one and its still under $50.
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:13 AM   #20
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I guess its relative to everyone, but each of the products I listed are under $30, except for one and its still under $50.
The Adam's Machine Superwax would fit that inexpensive title then.
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Old 09-06-2010, 11:41 AM   #21
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I find the debate about "made in America" car products a bit disingenuous to say the least. Why...?...because I see videos selling American car care products...as they detail out a Porsche or Ferrari, or some other exotic European car. So whats the message then..?..."if our products are good enough for a exotic European car...then they ought to be good enough for you guys with America cars?"... (i.e. the European stuff isn't good enough for their own cars?)

I drove foreign cars for years before buying my new Camaro, so I know a bit about getting a good product for a good price. But to read day after day about American car care products while demonstrating those every same products on European cars...like they say on the ESPN (nfl pre-game series..."COME ON MAN"...
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Old 09-06-2010, 12:37 PM   #22
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That's an interesting take Gramps. I can understand your view.
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:14 PM   #23
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I just ordered Klasse SG after reading tons of reviews of the product. But I am definitely going to try REJEX at a later time. I think for the price and being used as a winter sealant they are probably the two products that best suit my needs.
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Old 09-06-2010, 04:40 PM   #24
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I find the debate about "made in America" car products a bit disingenuous to say the least. Why...?...because I see videos selling American car care products...as they detail out a Porsche or Ferrari, or some other exotic European car. So whats the message then..?..."if our products are good enough for a exotic European car...then they ought to be good enough for you guys with America cars?"... (i.e. the European stuff isn't good enough for their own cars?)

I drove foreign cars for years before buying my new Camaro, so I know a bit about getting a good product for a good price. But to read day after day about American car care products while demonstrating those every same products on European cars...like they say on the ESPN (nfl pre-game series..."COME ON MAN"...
I fail to see the connection here... we choose to sell products exclusively that are made in the USA to support American jobs versus shipping these very same jobs overseas to China, India, or other 3rd world countries like some of our competitors have done and are choosing to do increasingly more despite claiming the contrary. Our foam gun being a prime example - Gilmour closed a production facility and put a couple hundred Americans out of work, then opened up production of the same gun in China.

We could've said, "GREAT!! Lower overhead, better profit margins!!" but instead we opt to discontinue our distributorship with them and go in search of an American company to provide us with an alternative, which consequently is not at all competitive at a pricing level due to the costs to produce anything here vs. China.

I just don't see how you make the leap to saying we should only clean American cars with our products - if we did its not like all the Chevy, Ford, and Dodge factories would see a sudden spike in productivity or it would spare jobs from being lost in American car factories.

Ferrari, Porsche, and other European exotics aren't taking jobs away from American workers... so what the heck should it matter what the subject of a detail is? We sell thousands of foam guns, we don't sell any cars. You likely notice more detailing writeups on foreign cars b/c they're interesting - would you rather read a writeup on a Porsche detail or a writeup on a Chevy truck? Sure they both are compelling, but I'm sure 99.9% of the population would like to oogle a Porsche more than a pickup.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:57 PM   #25
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I will buy American when I can. Its an uphill battle to keep manufacturing in the USA. We have set up a government with so many crazy rules, taxes and disincentives that many companies have decided to just move. I admire Adams effort to manufacture their products here. I am sure that if Adams had it their way these exotic cars would be made in the USA. It sounds to me like they do what they can. But, they cant control where Ferraris are made and who wants to see them wax a Pinto.

I also like to support smaller businesses. I own a small company and I always find my self pulling for the little guy. One other point, I see the Adams folks on this site all of the time. They are supporting us. They answer questions and give advice. They have made hours of free videos to help us along. I also see the DetailAddict and Junkman doing the same. That is service. I wish all of these guys the best and hope that that their businesses are super successful.
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I don't think Gramps was talking about Adam's specifically, I think he was just speaking in general.
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Old 09-06-2010, 08:21 PM   #27
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Pro Long makes a good paint sealant that I have used for over 10 years. Hard to find a stores, so look online for it.
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I will buy American when I can. Its an uphill battle to keep manufacturing in the USA. We have set up a government with so many crazy rules, taxes and disincentives that many companies have decided to just move. I admire Adams effort to manufacture their products here. I am sure that if Adams had it their way these exotic cars would be made in the USA. It sounds to me like they do what they can. But, they cant control where Ferraris are made and who wants to see them wax a Pinto.

I also like to support smaller businesses. I own a small company and I always find my self pulling for the little guy. One other point, I see the Adams folks on this site all of the time. They are supporting us. They answer questions and give advice. They have made hours of free videos to help us along. I also see the DetailAddict and Junkman doing the same. That is service. I wish all of these guys the best and hope that that their businesses are super successful.

Couldn't say it better.... Thanks guys...
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