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WootyMcBooty · 01-01-2009, 06:08 PM

Hows it all goin guys? I'm pretty close to ordering a Camaro so I figured it was high time I joined a forum.

I used to be a Challenger guy... Until I drove one. I realized that my issue with the Challenger was that while I loved the exterior looks; the interior was blah, and it handled like a wet noodle. No steering feedback what-so-ever and the lightest pedals I've ever encountered. I wanted more speed but also I wanted to keep the responsive handling and sportiness of my Lincoln LS (har har, sporty Lincoln, but really folks, it was built as a BMW fighter and it does a great damn job). First I looked at the G8 GXP, and the New Mustang but neither really capture my imagination in the way the Challenger did. Then one day I was talking to a friend about it and he said... why not just get a Camaro? I looked into it some more and realized... The interior in the 2ss is awesome. The exterior is badass. And the performance will be equal to if not better than the g8 gxp. (relatively the same platform, suspension set up, less weight, shorter wheelbase) and all of this comes in for 4 grand cheaper than a GXP.

So I think I have figured out my order thus far and plan on putting down a payment sometime in the next week.

Cyber Grey Metallic (my friend has driven a CGM and says its just gorgeous, don't bother asking who he is, lets just say he is about as well connected as you can get)

2ss Black Interior
RS Package
Manual

So I ask you guys, if I order within a week. Roughly... when can I expect delivery of this car? I was hoping June. But who knows... I know it took guys over at Challengertalk around 4 months each to get SRT-8's, but this car is a whole lot more popular.

And what is the Hurst Short throw shifter and why would I want it?

ljustin293 · 01-01-2009, 06:15 PM

Hurst short throw shifter allows you to shift faster.

LS3SSRS · 01-01-2009, 06:24 PM

hey welcome to the site! good choice on buying a camaro... it'll definately out handle the srt8, and i think it may just be faster as well. i ordered the hurst short throw cause its only about $500. real quick shifts my friend.

DeathChill · 01-01-2009, 06:49 PM

I was also a Challenger guy and was literally ready to order one; However, I got interested in the Camaro because I can get more horsepower for the same (or less, actually) price.

I haven't made a final decision as I really love the Challenger styling but the Camaro is quite nice as well. Interior is hands down the Camaro and performance is the Camaro as well (as far as I can tell at this point). The only thing really swaying me is the little things in the Challenger that I don't think the Camaro has.

zebra · 01-01-2009, 06:52 PM

welcome to the site

i only wish i was your friend in that CGM!

i think the 2SS interior is so much better than anything the challenger has to offer. on top of that, you're getting the camaro for much less!

as far as delivery, you could probably expect sometime around may-june considering there's already over 10000 pre-orders to make.

the Hurst shifter would be a great addition if you plan on doing some aggressive shifting. it shortens the throw (makes the shifting movements smaller) and therefore allows you to shift a little faster. the less time you spend in neutral, the quicker you'll get to the end of the track!

Inspector 17 · 01-01-2009, 06:59 PM

Welcome. I think everyone answered your questions, but let me add this note. Check out the advanced search option and put in hurst shifter and order delivery. There are a few threads that have some great discussions about these two points.

leatherneck · 01-01-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WootyMcBooty

Hows it all goin guys? I'm pretty close to ordering a Camaro so I figured it was high time I joined a forum.

I used to be a Challenger guy... Until I drove one. I realized that my issue with the Challenger was that while I loved the exterior looks; the interior was blah, and it handled like a wet noodle. No steering feedback what-so-ever and the lightest pedals I've ever encountered. I wanted more speed but also I wanted to keep the responsive handling and sportiness of my Lincoln LS (har har, sporty Lincoln, but really folks, it was built as a BMW fighter and it does a great damn job). First I looked at the G8 GXP, and the New Mustang but neither really capture my imagination in the way the Challenger did. Then one day I was talking to a friend about it and he said... why not just get a Camaro? I looked into it some more and realized... The interior in the 2ss is awesome. The exterior is badass. And the performance will be equal to if not better than the g8 gxp. (relatively the same platform, suspension set up, less weight, shorter wheelbase) and all of this comes in for 4 grand cheaper than a GXP.

So I think I have figured out my order thus far and plan on putting down a payment sometime in the next week.

Cyber Grey Metallic (my friend has driven a CGM and says its just gorgeous, don't bother asking who he is, lets just say he is about as well connected as you can get)

2ss Black Interior
RS Package
Manual

So I ask you guys, if I order within a week. Roughly... when can I expect delivery of this car? I was hoping June. But who knows... I know it took guys over at Challengertalk around 4 months each to get SRT-8's, but this car is a whole lot more popular.

And what is the Hurst Short throw shifter and why would I want it?

Im the nutty old ormer marine of the site all the other marines here are stll coherant--------welcome to the site

camaro5 · 01-01-2009, 07:06 PM

That name is Zooty, McBooty!

Hurst short throw? Funny you should ask, I was just looking at GMPP:

Short-Throw Shifter
A greater feeling of control comes with a precise, quick-acting
shifter. GM Performance Parts’ short-throw shifter kits for both V-6
and V-8 models deliver sharper and quicker throws between gears,
enabling you to keep the engine’s revs right where you want them
for optimal performance.
We worked with legendary shifter manufacturer Hurst® to develop
the kits, so they complement great performance with classic styling.
The kits include all necessary hardware and detailed instructions.

92214389 V-6 Short-Throw Shifter Kit (not shown)

92214388 V-8 (LS3) Short-Throw Shifter Kit

http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/_r...09_Catalog.pdf

Availability? No one knows for sure. Plant max output is 100K per year. That's 8000 a month. They will be starting off slowly, and ramping up on a day by day basis.

10,000 are on order now. If they make half max production - 4000 a month, that would be 2.5 months worth now in queue.

Throw in a million variables, recession causing turmoil for the entire auto industry, SS - LT order/production mix differences, etc.

teamlynn1 · 01-01-2009, 07:09 PM

Welcome to the site, I orderd the exact config you are asking about. CGM with black guts 2SS RS 6spd Black stripes, GFX, HSS. NO sunroof! Good choice.

nathlo · 01-01-2009, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathChill

I haven't made a final decision as I really love the Challenger styling but the Camaro is quite nice as well. Interior is hands down the Camaro and performance is the Camaro as well (as far as I can tell at this point). The only thing really swaying me is the little things in the Challenger that I don't think the Camaro has.

Little things like what? I mean, besides a navigation system option I don't see much that the Camaro lacks vs. the Challenger. Am I missing something?

Never2LowChevy · 01-01-2009, 08:38 PM

Welcome to the site, but is it just me or could'nt you have asked the guy thats "as well conected as you can get."? Not being mean but just wondering. Thats the one I would have asked...

WootyMcBooty · 01-01-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Never2LowChevy

Welcome to the site, but is it just me or could'nt you have asked the guy thats "as well conected as you can get."? Not being mean but just wondering. Thats the one I would have asked...

And avoid to chance to see if any of you are worth your salt? Where the fun in that?

I could have but he didn't know too much about the Hurst Shifter when I asked.

Badger · 01-01-2009, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WootyMcBooty

And avoid to chance to see if any of you are worth your salt? Where the fun in that?

I could have but he didn't know too much about the Hurst Shifter when I asked.

No Pics either of the CGM...I'm starting to think we are getting toy'd with

dieseldave24v · 01-01-2009, 10:01 PM

:troll:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badger

No Pics either of the CGM...I'm starting to think we are getting toy'd with

01-01-2009, 06:08 PM	#1
WootyMcBooty Drives: 2003 Black Lincoln LS V8 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Detroit Michigan Posts: 10	Hey Folks! Hows it all goin guys? I'm pretty close to ordering a Camaro so I figured it was high time I joined a forum. I used to be a Challenger guy... Until I drove one. I realized that my issue with the Challenger was that while I loved the exterior looks; the interior was blah, and it handled like a wet noodle. No steering feedback what-so-ever and the lightest pedals I've ever encountered. I wanted more speed but also I wanted to keep the responsive handling and sportiness of my Lincoln LS (har har, sporty Lincoln, but really folks, it was built as a BMW fighter and it does a great damn job). First I looked at the G8 GXP, and the New Mustang but neither really capture my imagination in the way the Challenger did. Then one day I was talking to a friend about it and he said... why not just get a Camaro? I looked into it some more and realized... The interior in the 2ss is awesome. The exterior is badass. And the performance will be equal to if not better than the g8 gxp. (relatively the same platform, suspension set up, less weight, shorter wheelbase) and all of this comes in for 4 grand cheaper than a GXP. So I think I have figured out my order thus far and plan on putting down a payment sometime in the next week. Cyber Grey Metallic (my friend has driven a CGM and says its just gorgeous, don't bother asking who he is, lets just say he is about as well connected as you can get) 2ss Black Interior RS Package Manual So I ask you guys, if I order within a week. Roughly... when can I expect delivery of this car? I was hoping June. But who knows... I know it took guys over at Challengertalk around 4 months each to get SRT-8's, but this car is a whole lot more popular. And what is the Hurst Short throw shifter and why would I want it?

01-01-2009, 06:24 PM	#3
LS3SSRS Drives: 2010 IBM SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 805	hey welcome to the site! good choice on buying a camaro... it'll definately out handle the srt8, and i think it may just be faster as well. i ordered the hurst short throw cause its only about $500. real quick shifts my friend. __________________ sold 2010 2SS/RS, 6spd manual, imperial blue metallic w/black leather Blacked out tail/signal lights, 5% rear tint, 20% sides, Dynomax Bullet mufflers, Barton short throw shifter, Clear Image offroad downpipes

01-01-2009, 06:52 PM	#5
zebra just can't seem to leave Drives: your mom wild!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: cold & windy Posts: 10,625 View My Garage	welcome to the site i only wish i was your friend in that CGM! i think the 2SS interior is so much better than anything the challenger has to offer. on top of that, you're getting the camaro for much less! as far as delivery, you could probably expect sometime around may-june considering there's already over 10000 pre-orders to make. the Hurst shifter would be a great addition if you plan on doing some aggressive shifting. it shortens the throw (makes the shifting movements smaller) and therefore allows you to shift a little faster. the less time you spend in neutral, the quicker you'll get to the end of the track! __________________ Eve ('00 FRC): hot-air intake Rowan ('09 H3): 5spd mom-mobile Penny ('99 Sierra): 5.3 / HD 5spd... gone but not forgotten Samson ('18 HD): compounded 408

01-01-2009, 07:09 PM	#9
teamlynn1 Mr. Chevrolet Drives: 2007 Tahoe Z71, 2009 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tacoma, Wa Posts: 334	Welcome to the site, I orderd the exact config you are asking about. CGM with black guts 2SS RS 6spd Black stripes, GFX, HSS. NO sunroof! Good choice. __________________ Bobby Lynn GM Burien Chevrolet www.burienchevrolet.com 206-243-5800 ext 151

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camaro5 Drives: X-15 Velocipede Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 4,630	That name is Zooty, McBooty! Hurst short throw? Funny you should ask, I was just looking at GMPP: Short-Throw Shifter A greater feeling of control comes with a precise, quick-acting shifter. GM Performance Parts’ short-throw shifter kits for both V-6 and V-8 models deliver sharper and quicker throws between gears, enabling you to keep the engine’s revs right where you want them for optimal performance. We worked with legendary shifter manufacturer Hurst® to develop the kits, so they complement great performance with classic styling. The kits include all necessary hardware and detailed instructions. 92214389 V-6 Short-Throw Shifter Kit (not shown) 92214388 V-8 (LS3) Short-Throw Shifter Kit http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/_r...09_Catalog.pdf Availability? No one knows for sure. Plant max output is 100K per year. That's 8000 a month. They will be starting off slowly, and ramping up on a day by day basis. 10,000 are on order now. If they make half max production - 4000 a month, that would be 2.5 months worth now in queue. Throw in a million variables, recession causing turmoil for the entire auto industry, SS - LT order/production mix differences, etc.

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Never2LowChevy Banned Drives: bagged 4 door dually on 22s Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nederland Tx Posts: 367 View My Garage	Welcome to the site, but is it just me or could'nt you have asked the guy thats "as well conected as you can get."? Not being mean but just wondering. Thats the one I would have asked...