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SS 376 · 09-09-2010, 07:06 PM

Ok, not too long from now, you might have the option to buy a $25 pass and do 90 in Nevada.

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010...uy-a-pass/?hpw

Want to Drive 90 in Nevada? Buy a Pass
By JONATHAN SCHULTZ
11:40 a.m. | Updated

To an informed political eye, the independent Nevada gubernatorial candidate Eugene DiSimone’s platform is one part Tea Party and one part nativist. He wants to deport undocumented immigrants and make state documents available in English only. He complains about lawyers and judges, who, as he said in a telephone interview, “litigate and govern our society away when what we want is freedom and commerce.”

Above all, he advocates that Nevadans “wean themselves off the federal government.” To encourage this, he proposes a novel measure that bypasses partisan ideologies.

In what Mr. DiSimone called his Free Limit Plan, he would give Nevadans and nonresidents the option to drive up to 90 miles an hour on state roads. The privilege would cost $25 a day and would conservatively generate more than $1 billion a year in new state revenue, he said.

“A year ago, when I put this plan together, every time I saw a highway patrol by the roadside, I’d pull over and ask them about it,” he said. “I stopped counting around 27 or 28 conversations, and based on what they told me, I estimate about 30 to 40 percent of drivers would be interested in doing it.”

Vehicles driven in the plan would need an annual safety inspection, which is currently not required in Nevada. Pending approval, a driver would be registered in a database and receive a transponder that, when intercepted by a highway patrol’s radar gun, would relay the driver’s participation in the plan, thereby sparing the driver a ticket and the officer a traffic stop. The vehicle’s transponder signal must also square with the vehicle’s license plate, which would also be relayed to the officer. (Drivers would be charged the $25 fee after calling a central number to state their intentions to exercise the 90 m.p.h. speed privilege during that 24-hour period.)

Mr. DiSimone sees a boon not only to the state’s depleted finances, but to private industry. “For processing out-of-state drivers, we’d have contractors set up stations at our border-highway intersections, which creates good construction jobs, plus the transponders have to be designed and built here in Nevada, and the safety inspections give a shot in the arm of the automotive shops,” he said.

He added, “There are a lot of auxiliary benefits to this.”

Nevada, Mr. DiSimone said, instituted speed limits in the 1970s because of the oil embargo. He said he believed that would not have happened if the state were not in hock to the federal government. “The state was compelled to accept them by the federal government, who could’ve withheld the highway funds, so the state posted them,” he said.

Initial feedback to Mr. DiSimone’s plan was favorable, but soured when elderly Nevadans were asked their impressions by the local media. “Suddenly, the phone calls we were getting went from ‘You guys are doing the right thing,’ and ‘You’ve got my vote,’ to ‘You’re going to cause more vehicular deaths, even though the data doesn’t bear that out,” he said.

Despite the skepticism, Mr. DiSimone said his plan was winning fans beyond Nevada.

“I just did a radio program up in Seattle, and people wanted to know whether I could work with their legislators to make this happen,” he said. “There’s a gubernatorial candidate out in California that is going to put it on her platform. Most states can architect something similar that satisfies the driving conditions within their state.”

Drivers who do not participate in the plan but still drive 90 miles an hour would face stiff fines, Mr. DiSimone said.

“The ticket structure will be $250 for the first offense, $500 for the next, $1,000 for the one after that,” he said. “People are going to realize pretty quickly that $25 per day is a lot cheaper than all these tickets.”

ArkySS · 09-09-2010, 08:28 PM

I would vote for $100 for unlimited speed for a day...

usmc8411 · 09-09-2010, 09:28 PM

If 90 is safe if you pay $25.00 doesnt that tell you that a lot of speed limits are bullshit?

So Im person A. Im driving 90 in a 70...Im doing it leagally because I paid $25. I get pulled over all the time for doing 90 then show them my pass....and get passed by cars that were going 70.

Person B. Says damn the man... drives 90 without the pass...gets pulled over...gets a ticket and possible insurance hike for "unsafe" driving even though other cars around him are driving 90.

Everything is about money with this government.

How about option 2.

On certain highways put a "get the fuk out of my way lane" and if your going the posted speed limit in it you get a wreckless driving ticket for being a road hazzard.

Just like AZ and their speed cameras.....if speed laws were to keep you safe then whats the point of cameras other than to generate money? There isnt, thats why they are gone.

But on the other end of the spectrum, in IL if you get 3 moving violations in a year, you get suspended for 3 months.....but if you pay your tickets and generate money from them....do they really care?

A lot of speed limts on highways are garbage and a lot of state troopers are garbage. If a cargo van packed with people is doing 74 in a 65 and you have a 2010 camaro and are doing 75 in a 65, who do you think Johnny Law is going to pull over. Damn right the camaro....but is it really the car being less safe? Naw. Its a scam, our whole system is a scam made to take away from you and give to big brother....just like the $25 a day B.S.

2010SSRSM6 · 09-10-2010, 04:58 AM

It would never work in CA. You would kill yourself when the jackass in the POS Datsun B210 pulls out in front of you doing 30 as he gets on the freeway and b-lines it straight to the fast lane.

You should be allowed to hunt stupid people. I'd pay for that permit.

Revo1 · 09-10-2010, 05:05 AM

I wanna go fast

2010SSRSM6 · 09-10-2010, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revo1

I wanna go fast

If you ain't first, your last

*Mindz* · 09-10-2010, 08:12 AM

Shake-N-Bake.

I'd love to get a 140 legally permit. =)

monstertodd · 09-10-2010, 01:57 PM

I think this is a crock of sh!t personally. So all I have to do to bypass so-called "safety" regulations is pay a $25.00 fee? It just proves to me that traffic stops for breaking the speed limit is nothing more than a money making tool for cash strapped governments. They don't care about your safety, and obviously if they are ok with you going that fast if you pay a $25.00 fee, they don't care about anyone else's safety.

What's next? If I pay a $25.00 fee, can I avoid wearing hard hats at a construction zone? What about if I'm on the water. Can I pay a $25.00 fee and avoid having to carry life preservers? How about if I want to remove my airbags, can I just pay a $25.00 fee?

Noturday · 09-10-2010, 02:44 PM

$25/day x 30 days/month is $750/month
$750/month x 12 months/year is $9000/year

1st ticket = $250
2nd ticket = $500
3rd ticket = $1000
4th-10th tickets = $7000 (if $1000 is the max)
total for first 10 tickets = $8750

so really, as long as you keep your # of tickets under 10 for the year you'll come out ahead of those people that pay for the permit

who actually does 90 mph every day anyway?

*The_Blur* · 09-10-2010, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monstertodd

I think this is a crock of sh!t personally. So all I have to do to bypass so-called "safety" regulations is pay a $25.00 fee? It just proves to me that traffic stops for breaking the speed limit is nothing more than a money making tool for cash strapped governments. They don't care about your safety, and obviously if they are ok with you going that fast if you pay a $25.00 fee, they don't care about anyone else's safety.

What's next? If I pay a $25.00 fee, can I avoid wearing hard hats at a construction zone? What about if I'm on the water. Can I pay a $25.00 fee and avoid having to carry life preservers? How about if I want to remove my airbags, can I just pay a $25.00 fee?

This permit demonstrates the hypocrisy of most traffic laws. It points out that speed is not the only measure of safe driving. Alternatively, it could be interpreted to say that the state does not care about safety so long as the state collects money. Either interpretation is bad for government.

Mayhem Matt · 09-10-2010, 02:53 PM

I'm sure if they had a visible pass like on the front and/or rear window for the highway patrol to see, it would "somewhat" work BUT I would pretty much say they would need a designated lane for this high of speeds because of the idiots like 2010SSRSM6 described. California gets people doing 35mph in the slow lane ALL the time

AND people tend to actually slow down as they change lanes for some reason

Synerbee · 09-10-2010, 04:17 PM

How about autobahn style freeways involving a test and permit. It make money and keep everyone else safe. That be fun and there is a lot of people who pay for that

SS Mike · 09-10-2010, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noturday

$25/day x 30 days/month is $750/month
$750/month x 12 months/year is $9000/year

1st ticket = $250
2nd ticket = $500
3rd ticket = $1000
4th-10th tickets = $7000 (if $1000 is the max)
total for first 10 tickets = $8750

so really, as long as you keep your # of tickets under 10 for the year you'll come out ahead of those people that pay for the permit

who actually does 90 mph every day anyway?

Don't forget about insurance hikes, cost of traffic school, and suspension of license if you get too many infractions in a certain period of time!

I wouldn't pay for that every day, but I would buy it when I knew I was heading to Vegas, and on the way back from Vegas!

caper · 09-10-2010, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revo1

I wanna go fast

do you have ANY idea how many times i SAY THAT,lol....im actually driving by myself and just say it....sometimes along with a fake gear down to third and fast car noises...yeah, i am actually serious....lol...

occasionally i get to actually say "IM GOING FAST!"

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09-09-2010, 07:06 PM	#1
SS 376 Drives: 2010 IBM 1SS (Former) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,031	Buy a pass, do 90 on public roads Ok, not too long from now, you might have the option to buy a $25 pass and do 90 in Nevada. http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010...uy-a-pass/?hpw Want to Drive 90 in Nevada? Buy a Pass By JONATHAN SCHULTZ 11:40 a.m. \| Updated To an informed political eye, the independent Nevada gubernatorial candidate Eugene DiSimone’s platform is one part Tea Party and one part nativist. He wants to deport undocumented immigrants and make state documents available in English only. He complains about lawyers and judges, who, as he said in a telephone interview, “litigate and govern our society away when what we want is freedom and commerce.” Above all, he advocates that Nevadans “wean themselves off the federal government.” To encourage this, he proposes a novel measure that bypasses partisan ideologies. In what Mr. DiSimone called his Free Limit Plan, he would give Nevadans and nonresidents the option to drive up to 90 miles an hour on state roads. The privilege would cost $25 a day and would conservatively generate more than $1 billion a year in new state revenue, he said. “A year ago, when I put this plan together, every time I saw a highway patrol by the roadside, I’d pull over and ask them about it,” he said. “I stopped counting around 27 or 28 conversations, and based on what they told me, I estimate about 30 to 40 percent of drivers would be interested in doing it.” Vehicles driven in the plan would need an annual safety inspection, which is currently not required in Nevada. Pending approval, a driver would be registered in a database and receive a transponder that, when intercepted by a highway patrol’s radar gun, would relay the driver’s participation in the plan, thereby sparing the driver a ticket and the officer a traffic stop. The vehicle’s transponder signal must also square with the vehicle’s license plate, which would also be relayed to the officer. (Drivers would be charged the $25 fee after calling a central number to state their intentions to exercise the 90 m.p.h. speed privilege during that 24-hour period.) Mr. DiSimone sees a boon not only to the state’s depleted finances, but to private industry. “For processing out-of-state drivers, we’d have contractors set up stations at our border-highway intersections, which creates good construction jobs, plus the transponders have to be designed and built here in Nevada, and the safety inspections give a shot in the arm of the automotive shops,” he said. He added, “There are a lot of auxiliary benefits to this.” Nevada, Mr. DiSimone said, instituted speed limits in the 1970s because of the oil embargo. He said he believed that would not have happened if the state were not in hock to the federal government. “The state was compelled to accept them by the federal government, who could’ve withheld the highway funds, so the state posted them,” he said. Initial feedback to Mr. DiSimone’s plan was favorable, but soured when elderly Nevadans were asked their impressions by the local media. “Suddenly, the phone calls we were getting went from ‘You guys are doing the right thing,’ and ‘You’ve got my vote,’ to ‘You’re going to cause more vehicular deaths, even though the data doesn’t bear that out,” he said. Despite the skepticism, Mr. DiSimone said his plan was winning fans beyond Nevada. “I just did a radio program up in Seattle, and people wanted to know whether I could work with their legislators to make this happen,” he said. “There’s a gubernatorial candidate out in California that is going to put it on her platform. Most states can architect something similar that satisfies the driving conditions within their state.” Drivers who do not participate in the plan but still drive 90 miles an hour would face stiff fines, Mr. DiSimone said. “The ticket structure will be $250 for the first offense, $500 for the next, $1,000 for the one after that,” he said. “People are going to realize pretty quickly that $25 per day is a lot cheaper than all these tickets.”

09-09-2010, 08:28 PM	#2
ArkySS Camaroless for now... Drives: 2014 Blue Topaz Silverado Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,411	I would vote for $100 for unlimited speed for a day... __________________ It was fun while it lasted.....

09-10-2010, 04:58 AM	#4
2010SSRSM6 Drives: My wife crazy with my C5 usage. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 6,553 View My Garage	It would never work in CA. You would kill yourself when the jackass in the POS Datsun B210 pulls out in front of you doing 30 as he gets on the freeway and b-lines it straight to the fast lane. You should be allowed to hunt stupid people. I'd pay for that permit. __________________ UNDER CONSTRUCTION......again......

09-10-2010, 05:05 AM	#5
Revo1 Don't Like it? Suggit. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 14,832 View My Garage	I wanna go fast __________________ "Tops off, tach up baby- loud and proud!" A Camaro lover from day one- 1996 3.8 V6 Camaro, to 1996 5.7 LT1 Camaro Z28, to the sold 2002 5.7 LS1 Camaro SS, and NOW, a [I]6.2 L99 VR 2SS/RS: XS Power stainless full exhaust, Airaid CAI, BMR drop springs and sways, custom tune by Cal Speed- 411rwhp

09-09-2010, 09:28 PM	#3
usmc8411 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: hannibal mo Posts: 207	If 90 is safe if you pay $25.00 doesnt that tell you that a lot of speed limits are bullshit? So Im person A. Im driving 90 in a 70...Im doing it leagally because I paid $25. I get pulled over all the time for doing 90 then show them my pass....and get passed by cars that were going 70. Person B. Says damn the man... drives 90 without the pass...gets pulled over...gets a ticket and possible insurance hike for "unsafe" driving even though other cars around him are driving 90. Everything is about money with this government. How about option 2. On certain highways put a "get the fuk out of my way lane" and if your going the posted speed limit in it you get a wreckless driving ticket for being a road hazzard. Just like AZ and their speed cameras.....if speed laws were to keep you safe then whats the point of cameras other than to generate money? There isnt, thats why they are gone. But on the other end of the spectrum, in IL if you get 3 moving violations in a year, you get suspended for 3 months.....but if you pay your tickets and generate money from them....do they really care? A lot of speed limts on highways are garbage and a lot of state troopers are garbage. If a cargo van packed with people is doing 74 in a 65 and you have a 2010 camaro and are doing 75 in a 65, who do you think Johnny Law is going to pull over. Damn right the camaro....but is it really the car being less safe? Naw. Its a scam, our whole system is a scam made to take away from you and give to big brother....just like the $25 a day B.S.

09-10-2010, 08:12 AM	#7
Mindz E.B.A.H. Drives: you wild... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself... Posts: 18,420	Shake-N-Bake. I'd love to get a 140 legally permit. =) __________________ Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1

09-10-2010, 01:57 PM	#8
monstertodd Drives: 2010 Cyber Grey Metallic 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tega Cay, South Carolina Posts: 4,032 View My Garage	I think this is a crock of sh!t personally. So all I have to do to bypass so-called "safety" regulations is pay a $25.00 fee? It just proves to me that traffic stops for breaking the speed limit is nothing more than a money making tool for cash strapped governments. They don't care about your safety, and obviously if they are ok with you going that fast if you pay a $25.00 fee, they don't care about anyone else's safety. What's next? If I pay a $25.00 fee, can I avoid wearing hard hats at a construction zone? What about if I'm on the water. Can I pay a $25.00 fee and avoid having to carry life preservers? How about if I want to remove my airbags, can I just pay a $25.00 fee?

09-10-2010, 02:44 PM	#9
Noturday [Not-your-day] Drives: 2005 Avalanche Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 223	$25/day x 30 days/month is $750/month $750/month x 12 months/year is $9000/year 1st ticket = $250 2nd ticket = $500 3rd ticket = $1000 4th-10th tickets = $7000 (if $1000 is the max) total for first 10 tickets = $8750 so really, as long as you keep your # of tickets under 10 for the year you'll come out ahead of those people that pay for the permit who actually does 90 mph every day anyway? __________________

09-10-2010, 02:53 PM	#11
Mayhem Matt Drives: 10' 2SS/RS M6 SUPERCHRGED BUMBLEBEE Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Orange CA Posts: 607 View My Garage	I'm sure if they had a visible pass like on the front and/or rear window for the highway patrol to see, it would "somewhat" work BUT I would pretty much say they would need a designated lane for this high of speeds because of the idiots like 2010SSRSM6 described. California gets people doing 35mph in the slow lane ALL the time AND people tend to actually slow down as they change lanes for some reason __________________ Ordered Bumblebee 10/15/2008Part of the Family 6/11/2009 #11423 My Bumblebee to Superbee build story...http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105163 Superbee's 536hp Dyno Run...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE7wePluPAc

09-10-2010, 04:17 PM	#12
Synerbee SoCal Headturners Drives: 2010 SGM Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Anaheim Hills, California Posts: 5,788	How about autobahn style freeways involving a test and permit. It make money and keep everyone else safe. That be fun and there is a lot of people who pay for that

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