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masterwinning · 09-16-2010, 10:03 PM

I had a conversation today with a manager from GM about voiding the warranty. A little background this person is a family friend and trusted source. He stated that GM has begun a push and has told dealers to not honor any warranty work when any major part has been changed to anything other then a GM part. He stated something such as a CAI, any exhaust changes, etc would make the warranty useless. He also talked about how if they can prove you were on a track or in any competition with your car, it would also void your warranty. To sum it all up, he said as GM has looked to trim cost, somebody had the bright idea to try to limit warranty work and save money there and they are getting aggressive about it, to the point they are willing to go to court over the matter. Take it for what you want, but just passing on the information given to me.

camaroitalia · 09-16-2010, 10:07 PM

im scared to mod my car now

oldfriend · 09-16-2010, 10:10 PM

And now we are in the old USSR

acamellis · 09-16-2010, 10:10 PM

This is America. If I wanna mod my car then I will. But there are consequences to all actions. Know them!

ron10 · 09-16-2010, 10:14 PM

this sucks.

Orange Krate · 09-16-2010, 10:20 PM

When in the history of car manufacturing has modifying your car's drivetrain or powerplant NOT invalidated the warranty? As stated before, GM and all manufacturers spend a whole heck of alot of money engineering these things. A tweak here, change there will inevitably change the status quo of the engine/drivetrain and upset the proverbial applecart. Seems to me that is why car manufacturers have regional reps or referees. It is also why Chevrolet has their aftermarket performance store!

Hotrod6464 · 09-16-2010, 10:24 PM

Thats why I did not add a cai and went with the SLP Blackwing and my car is at GM getting the GM preformance exhaust installed because I am worried about voiding my powertrain warranty.

brantley847 · 09-16-2010, 10:29 PM

how the f--- can we not mod to a CAI when GM DOESNT PRODUCE A F ING CAI!!!!!

mikeSS · 09-16-2010, 11:20 PM

well car need new rear axles.. they said i was doing two many burnouts, and could tell from my tire wear... i had a CAI on the car also... they gave me allot of shit, said we might not cover this under warranty, but in the end they did cover it... but ya you have to pay to play

Steve Dallas · 09-16-2010, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brantley847

how the f--- can we not mod to a CAI when GM DOESNT PRODUCE A F ING CAI!!!!!

By not modding to a CAI.

jpizzle007 · 09-17-2010, 06:53 AM

what damage would a catback exhaust cause? lmfao what a joke

mcarney · 09-17-2010, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acamellis

This is America. If I wanna mod my car then I will. But there are consequences to all actions. Know them!

Yeah but the cop is an idiot if he pulls me over !!!

E.T. · 09-17-2010, 07:01 AM

There are laws to prevent this. If GM wants to void the warranty because of a CAI, they have to prove that the CAI actually caused the problem. Would they actually take the owner to court? Maybe, who knows? Would they win? If the CAI didn't cause the problem, probably not.

I'm not a lawyer, but a little research on the topic should backup the above statement.

redirish · 09-17-2010, 07:09 AM

I thought I read something in the manual that you can race the car after 1500 miles and that they recommend you change the fluid in the rear. Why would GM make cars like the camaro and corvette with launch control ect and then say you can't race the car!

09-16-2010, 10:03 PM	#1
masterwinning Drives: 2013 Volt Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Riverside Ohio Posts: 515	Voiding the powertrain warranty I had a conversation today with a manager from GM about voiding the warranty. A little background this person is a family friend and trusted source. He stated that GM has begun a push and has told dealers to not honor any warranty work when any major part has been changed to anything other then a GM part. He stated something such as a CAI, any exhaust changes, etc would make the warranty useless. He also talked about how if they can prove you were on a track or in any competition with your car, it would also void your warranty. To sum it all up, he said as GM has looked to trim cost, somebody had the bright idea to try to limit warranty work and save money there and they are getting aggressive about it, to the point they are willing to go to court over the matter. Take it for what you want, but just passing on the information given to me.

09-16-2010, 10:07 PM	#2
camaroitalia Go Harder Than Baltimore! Drives: 2010 CGM Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore Posts: 3,835	im scared to mod my car now __________________

09-16-2010, 10:20 PM	#6
Orange Krate Not just any car! Drives: Orange Krate DOB - 11/22/2010 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 1,866	When in the history of car manufacturing has modifying your car's drivetrain or powerplant NOT invalidated the warranty? As stated before, GM and all manufacturers spend a whole heck of alot of money engineering these things. A tweak here, change there will inevitably change the status quo of the engine/drivetrain and upset the proverbial applecart. Seems to me that is why car manufacturers have regional reps or referees. It is also why Chevrolet has their aftermarket performance store! __________________ Simi Valley, CA email: jimeads@pacbell.net

09-16-2010, 10:29 PM	#8
brantley847 v It bites. Drives: 2011 IBM 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,580	how the f--- can we not mod to a CAI when GM DOESNT PRODUCE A F ING CAI!!!!! __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Performance: 439 RWHP: 226/236 Comp Cam, Kooks 1-7/8, CAInc, Borla S type, Vmax TB, Rx Catch Can, Trans cooler, SLP 160 termo, Melling high volume, Eibach Springs/Sways 1" drop, Whiteline complete bushing kit.

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jpizzle007 Drives: . Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: . Posts: 25	what damage would a catback exhaust cause? lmfao what a joke

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E.T. Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 3,273	There are laws to prevent this. If GM wants to void the warranty because of a CAI, they have to prove that the CAI actually caused the problem. Would they actually take the owner to court? Maybe, who knows? Would they win? If the CAI didn't cause the problem, probably not. I'm not a lawyer, but a little research on the topic should backup the above statement.

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redirish Drives: 10' IOM 2SS/RS/M6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,354 View My Garage	I thought I read something in the manual that you can race the car after 1500 miles and that they recommend you change the fluid in the rear. Why would GM make cars like the camaro and corvette with launch control ect and then say you can't race the car!