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Dalefj · 09-22-2010, 01:12 AM

The camaro needs a sports package similar to the mustang track pack
Im thinking stiffer suspension upgraded sway bars, strut tower bars AND WEIGHT REDUCTION!!! Mainly the last one

lindsrt · 09-22-2010, 04:55 AM

I THINK THE LOOK OF THE NEW CAMARO THE BODY LINES GM DID IT RIGHT MAYBE ADD ALITTLE TO THE CAR LIKE SS EMBLEMS ON THE FRONT FENDER SO WHEN YOU DO SEE ONE GOING DOWN THE ROAD YOU CAN SEE IF IT IS AN SS AND NOT A V6?
ALSO SOME EMBLEMS ON THE INSIDE MAYBE ON THE DASH OR DOOR PANELS JUST GIVE IT A MORE CLASSIC LOOK! AND HOW MUCH H.P DO YOU NEED ON THE STREET 426 IS A GOOD NUMBER DONT YOU THINK! AND I THINK ITS A MATTER OF TIME THE GOV WILL STEP IN
JUST LIKE IN THE EARLY 70s AND THROUGH THE 80s RIGHT NOW IS GOOD TIMING
FOR THE PONY CAR WARS, BUT MY FEELING IT WILL BE LIKE THE EARLY 70s WHEN THE HIGH HORSEPOWER MOTORS CAME DOWN SO I SAY GET ONE WHY WE STILL CAN! LOL

HDDAN · 09-22-2010, 05:50 AM

Is everyone forgetting that the government owns GM? Does anyone believe that the present regime is allowing high performance R&D? They are working on crap like the $40,000.00. Plus Volt.

motorhead · 09-22-2010, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDDAN

Is everyone forgetting that the government owns GM? Does anyone believe that the present regime is allowing high performance R&D? They are working on crap like the $40,000.00. Plus Volt.

You need to do some more homework if you think that's what is going on.

Andro · 09-22-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by StangKiller-SS

The Challenger needs to go on a diet to compete with either the Camaro or Mustang first.

The Camaro needs to go on a diet as well

Johnnyma45 · 09-22-2010, 09:12 AM

Biggest problem (besides the price/performance ratio, which is getting better) literally is weight for the Challenger. But Chrysler is playing even more catchup than Ford is, I doubt they'll leap over anyone in comparos. Also it doesn't look like a stick shift is an option any longer, for those who care.

Bonanza7 · 09-22-2010, 09:52 AM

SlingShot...You are right. GM knew these were coming, and as usual, The General sits and lets others blow by them. If they only had someone who could look ahead. Where is Lutz when we need him?

Maurdib · 09-22-2010, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonanza7

SlingShot...You are right. GM knew these were coming, and as usual, The General sits and lets others blow by them. If they only had someone who could look ahead. Where is Lutz when we need him?

Who blowing pass them, the Mustang is maybe slightly faster at 300lb difference, Is that what you consider blowing pass them?

*DGthe3* · 09-22-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by reocamaro

And THIS is why I regret getting my Camaro noooow. Z, SRT 392, GT500.... could it be a better time to wait to buy a car? I'm excited and looking forward to ditchin' my SS.

Ok, so you wait until next year. Then there will be a Z28 just around the corner. So you wait for that instead. Then there will be a new GT500 or the rumored '7th engine super Challenger'. Then after that, the Camaro gets a ground up redesign. Followed the following year by the Mustang. And it goes on and on and on ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDDAN

Is everyone forgetting that the government owns GM? Does anyone believe that the present regime is allowing high performance R&D? They are working on crap like the $40,000.00. Plus Volt.

Thats why GM's released the Z06 Carbon and the CTC-V (CTS-V Coupe), and why they're working on the Z28 as we speak, right? Because the US, Canadian, and Ontario governments are forbiding any performance cars?

They're not calling the shots at GM. And for the record, they were working on the Volt well before bankruptcy. And I think its ~40k pricetag was anticipated before bankruptcy too.

Jekyll-N-Hyde · 09-22-2010, 02:08 PM

I dont want the Mustang nor challenger to be faster than the Stock Camaro that you buy on a car lot however what sells more cars ?

#1 the Faster one ?
#2 Styling ?
#3 All around daily drivablilty ?

As there are the speed demon crowd who want the Camaro for performance as well as everyday drivablilty most people who buy this car buy it for the looks and say 425hp is enough for me for what im going to do with the car.

As stated up above

SS=gt=rt gt500=rt8 = ??????? Z28 !!!!!!

we dont have an answer for the two mentioned up above.

Why would Gm want to sink money into a car right now and make it more hp when its selling like it is ?

The Z28 will be the bump however until the Vette gets whatever it is getting I dont see Camaro going anywhere.
Gm is probably going to stick to where it is motorwise and try and make this car EVEN better than it is all around than focuc on the HP.

If Hp means what much do what I did GIVE IT MORE throw in a Cam , mill some heads and give her some more POWERRRRRRRRR.

GMRULZ · 09-22-2010, 02:15 PM

I think its riduculous to constantly trade up just because another car has more power. Ever heard of modding? Come on guys, if you have to be faster learn how to turn a wrench or at least pay for someone to do modifications. There will always be something faster.

2010 2-Tone · 09-22-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by squat

Supposedly it'll have an 8 speed auto so the gearing could be crazy. But I'm with you on the 0-60 times, very much doubt 3 seconds unless they dropped a lot of weight.

No way for that car to get into the 3 anything range!!!! The CTS-V is only 3.9 0-60

CamaroScotty · 09-22-2010, 02:27 PM

Here's my thought.... I love the Camaro. I like the mustang and like the challenger.

When we were going to Oshawa for the 2010 BBOMG, we passed about 20 truckloads of challengers. Of that 20, 12 truckloads were in a color I haven't seen before...a hint of purple, blended with what looked to be May Kay Cosmetics PINK...... It was...YUK. That image is burnt into my head. Now when ever I see one of ANY color, I remember those truckloads that went who knows where!

Jekyll-N-Hyde · 09-22-2010, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMRULZ

I think its riduculous to constantly trade up just because another car has more power. Ever heard of modding? Come on guys, if you have to be faster learn how to turn a wrench or at least pay for someone to do modifications. There will always be something faster.

Thank You

I'm not scared by any means I will line up against any New Mustang Gt or Challenger modding a car only fixed the bump in HP I needed.

props to the others for for once offering something however it comes down to a driver and a talented motor and the LS3 is proven talent it just needs some tweaking to get it even further .

09-22-2010, 09:12 AM	#34
Johnnyma45 Former Camaro Owner Drives: 2011 Dodge Charger R/T Join Date: May 2010 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 604 View My Garage	Biggest problem (besides the price/performance ratio, which is getting better) literally is weight for the Challenger. But Chrysler is playing even more catchup than Ford is, I doubt they'll leap over anyone in comparos. Also it doesn't look like a stick shift is an option any longer, for those who care. __________________ 6/9/10-3/30/11. RIP ROXY... :(

09-22-2010, 02:15 PM	#39
GMRULZ Drives: 2010 SS & 2008 C6 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VA Posts: 1,819	I think its riduculous to constantly trade up just because another car has more power. Ever heard of modding? Come on guys, if you have to be faster learn how to turn a wrench or at least pay for someone to do modifications. There will always be something faster. __________________ 2010 SS L99, 536rwhp 10.843@126.72. Whipple Supercharger stock pulley, ARH 1 7/8 longtubes w/ catted xpipe, magnaflow 3" mufflers, ADM Race CAI, 3:70 gears, lightweight wheels and nitto drag radials. Stock internal L99, stock converter. Bolt on best before blower 12.22@113.29 w/ nothing but ARH headers, catted x-pipe, ADM CAI and a tune on stock Pzero`s! Other car 2008 C6 Ls3, z51, A6, Npp Exhaust, best bonestock pass 11.80@118.82, Number 2 on the Corvette Forums Bonestock fastest list..

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09-22-2010, 01:12 AM	#29
Dalefj Drives: 2017 Camaro 2ss Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Detroit Posts: 193	The camaro needs a sports package similar to the mustang track pack Im thinking stiffer suspension upgraded sway bars, strut tower bars AND WEIGHT REDUCTION!!! Mainly the last one

09-22-2010, 04:55 AM	#30
lindsrt lindsrt Drives: 2011 silver ice 1ss camaro Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: ohio Posts: 60 View My Garage	I THINK THE LOOK OF THE NEW CAMARO THE BODY LINES GM DID IT RIGHT MAYBE ADD ALITTLE TO THE CAR LIKE SS EMBLEMS ON THE FRONT FENDER SO WHEN YOU DO SEE ONE GOING DOWN THE ROAD YOU CAN SEE IF IT IS AN SS AND NOT A V6? ALSO SOME EMBLEMS ON THE INSIDE MAYBE ON THE DASH OR DOOR PANELS JUST GIVE IT A MORE CLASSIC LOOK! AND HOW MUCH H.P DO YOU NEED ON THE STREET 426 IS A GOOD NUMBER DONT YOU THINK! AND I THINK ITS A MATTER OF TIME THE GOV WILL STEP IN JUST LIKE IN THE EARLY 70s AND THROUGH THE 80s RIGHT NOW IS GOOD TIMING FOR THE PONY CAR WARS, BUT MY FEELING IT WILL BE LIKE THE EARLY 70s WHEN THE HIGH HORSEPOWER MOTORS CAME DOWN SO I SAY GET ONE WHY WE STILL CAN! LOL

09-22-2010, 05:50 AM	#31
HDDAN Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS 2007 HD FLSTC Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Boston MA Posts: 1,510	Is everyone forgetting that the government owns GM? Does anyone believe that the present regime is allowing high performance R&D? They are working on crap like the $40,000.00. Plus Volt.

09-22-2010, 09:52 AM	#35
Bonanza7 Account Suspended Drives: 2010, Rally Yellow, Black stripes Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,363	SlingShot...You are right. GM knew these were coming, and as usual, The General sits and lets others blow by them. If they only had someone who could look ahead. Where is Lutz when we need him?

09-22-2010, 02:08 PM	#38
Jekyll-N-Hyde I put the FU back in FUN Drives: 1969 SS 396 , 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Between Weatherford and Azle TX hway730 Posts: 2,129	I dont want the Mustang nor challenger to be faster than the Stock Camaro that you buy on a car lot however what sells more cars ? #1 the Faster one ? #2 Styling ? #3 All around daily drivablilty ? As there are the speed demon crowd who want the Camaro for performance as well as everyday drivablilty most people who buy this car buy it for the looks and say 425hp is enough for me for what im going to do with the car. As stated up above SS=gt=rt gt500=rt8 = ??????? Z28 !!!!!! we dont have an answer for the two mentioned up above. Why would Gm want to sink money into a car right now and make it more hp when its selling like it is ? The Z28 will be the bump however until the Vette gets whatever it is getting I dont see Camaro going anywhere. Gm is probably going to stick to where it is motorwise and try and make this car EVEN better than it is all around than focuc on the HP. If Hp means what much do what I did GIVE IT MORE throw in a Cam , mill some heads and give her some more POWERRRRRRRRR.

09-22-2010, 02:27 PM	#41
CamaroScotty Account Suspended Drives: Your new SLP Camaro! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedarburg, WI Posts: 6,790	Here's my thought.... I love the Camaro. I like the mustang and like the challenger. When we were going to Oshawa for the 2010 BBOMG, we passed about 20 truckloads of challengers. Of that 20, 12 truckloads were in a color I haven't seen before...a hint of purple, blended with what looked to be May Kay Cosmetics PINK...... It was...YUK. That image is burnt into my head. Now when ever I see one of ANY color, I remember those truckloads that went who knows where!