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Old 09-27-2010, 11:58 PM   #1
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H&R Super Sport Springs

Like the Title says, I am looking to get these springs and I wanted to see if any other Camaro owners have put the H&R Super Sport Springs.

Pics please. These Springs drop the car 1.8 Front and 1.7 Rear.

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Old 09-28-2010, 02:45 AM   #2
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If it does drop that much, I think you'll be needing some camber plates as well. I don't see how you can get the alignment anywhere near specs with that much of a drop, without them.
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:58 AM   #3
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:14 AM   #4
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If it does drop that much, I think you'll be needing some camber plates as well. I don't see how you can get the alignment anywhere near specs with that much of a drop, without them.
In addition to the comment above, going that low will make quick work of the factory dampers and result in poor ride quality. If you need more than about 1.4 inch then you should probably look at coil overs.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:25 AM   #5
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I know what I will need to get and about ride quality. I just wanted to see if anybody has dropped their car using these springs.

Coilovers are out of my budget, too expensive.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:01 PM   #6
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In addition to the comment above, going that low will make quick work of the factory dampers and result in poor ride quality. If you need more than about 1.4 inch then you should probably look at coil overs.
Can you elaborate on this point a bit? I will soon put 1" drop springs on my 2SS and want to know why and if this will affect any of the stock parts?

I have read before that lowering springs could wear out the factory struts faster but not sure why that is and what can be done to avoid this if possible? Although I do want the improved look of lowering it one inch I don't really want to have to start replacing other parts because of it and if it is something that would be a continuing issue than I may not bother at all.

Also can you specify what would constitute poor ride quality versus the stock ride? I have improved my ride quality with the sub-frame inserts and front sway bar and don't really want that to change.

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Old 09-28-2010, 12:07 PM   #7
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Can you elaborate on this point a bit? I will soon put 1" drop springs on my 2SS and want to know why and if this will affect any of the stock parts?

I have read before that lowering springs could wear out the factory struts faster but not sure why that is and what can be done to avoid this if possible? Although I do want the improved look of lowering it one inch I don't really want to have to start replacing other parts because of it and if it is something that would be a continuing issue than I may not bother at all.

Also can you specify what would constitute poor ride quality versus the stock ride? I have improved my ride quality with the sub-frame inserts and front sway bar and don't really want that to change.

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He was probably referring to the drop that I wanted to go with. Which is the 1.7 Front and 1.8 Rear.

I'm still curious to know if anyone has put these Springs on their car
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:35 PM   #8
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Can you elaborate on this point a bit? I will soon put 1" drop springs on my 2SS and want to know why and if this will affect any of the stock parts?

I have read before that lowering springs could wear out the factory struts faster but not sure why that is and what can be done to avoid this if possible? Although I do want the improved look of lowering it one inch I don't really want to have to start replacing other parts because of it and if it is something that would be a continuing issue than I may not bother at all.

Also can you specify what would constitute poor ride quality versus the stock ride? I have improved my ride quality with the sub-frame inserts and front sway bar and don't really want that to change.

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Pedders did some good research on this. Anything much more than about an inch can have adverse affects on the stock suspension components. You should be fine with most of the springs out there, I think the ones the OP is talking about are a very aggressive version.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:43 PM   #9
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Most members know that this much drop on the factory struts will kill them and ride like crap so as for pics with springs you might not find any. Save up and get the some coils it will be worth it.
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Pedders did some good research on this. Anything much more than about an inch can have adverse affects on the stock suspension components. You should be fine with most of the springs out there, I think the ones the OP is talking about are a very aggressive version.
So basically what you are saying is that from what you have heard a 1" drop should be ok with OEM suspension parts but anything more than the 1" and there could be a problem?

Although I am a big Pedders fan and already have some of there parts on my car their springs are a bit pricey for me. But I do like the fact that Pedders claim that their drop springs do not adversly affect the ride quality at all.

Decisions...decisions
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So basically what you are saying is that from what you have heard a 1" drop should be ok with OEM suspension parts but anything more than the 1" and there could be a problem?

Although I am a big Pedders fan and already have some of there parts on my car their springs are a bit pricey for me. But I do like the fact that Pedders claim that their drop springs do not adversly affect the ride quality at all.

Decisions...decisions
From what I hear, as long as you're closer to 1 than 2 inches, you'll be fine. I think most of them are like 1 and 1.25-1.3. And I'm pretty sure those will be fine. Once you get up over 1.5 youre more likely to run into problems.

I'm no expert, I just spend a lot of time on the forums, so I could be wrong.
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From what I hear, as long as you're closer to 1 than 2 inches, you'll be fine. I think most of them are like 1 and 1.25-1.3. And I'm pretty sure those will be fine. Once you get up over 1.5 youre more likely to run into problems.

I'm no expert, I just spend a lot of time on the forums, so I could be wrong.
I understand what you're saying but why would H&R offer a product that will mess up your overall suspension because it's "too" low

I know the lower the drop, then the car is more than likely to have bad ride quality, but i just don't see why a company would offer a product that would mess up your suspension. I don't know.
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I understand what you're saying but why would H&R offer a product that will mess up your overall suspension because it's "too" low

I know the lower the drop, then the car is more than likely to have bad ride quality, but i just don't see why a company would offer a product that would mess up your suspension. I don't know.
It's not gonna destroy your car. All that is being said is that these H&R springs will wear out your factory struts and dampening much much faster than a standard 1-1.25" drop. H&R is just catering for the guys that want an aggressive drop and can't or are not ready to buy coils.
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It's not gonna destroy your car. All that is being said is that these H&R springs will wear out your factory struts and dampening much much faster than a standard 1-1.25" drop. H&R is just catering for the guys that want an aggressive drop and can't or are not ready to buy coils.
Gotcha!

I understood all of that, some of the above posts just made it seem like it was going to completely destroy the suspension.
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