Camaro SS vs. 370Z

[kinyu]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

Why could you not see how the camaro can beat the Z in handling??

Because that would mean the camaro will outperform the vette. Just doesn't seem likely.

[truth411]

Originally Posted by kinyu

Will the camaros handling be great? I'm sure. Will it beat the Z? I can't logically see how. Will the average driver use either car in a way that makes the difference in handling worthwhile? *shrug*

On a race track, My money is on the Camaro SS. The handleing will be on par to the Z, maybe better in some areas. But the Camaro has waaaaaaay more horsepower and torque.

[ArcAngel]

without a doubt the V8's customization capabilities are vastly superior to the VQ

[truth411]

Originally Posted by kinyu

Because that would mean the camaro will outperform the vette. Just doesn't seem likely.

No it would not, it seems your trying to say if the Camaro ss can beat a 370z then the SS would be better than a vette? you logic is flawed.

[kinyu]

Originally Posted by truth411

No it would not, it seems your trying to say if the Camaro ss can beat a 370z then the SS would be better than a vette? you logic is flawed.

Please explain. The fact is the Z did better on the skidpad than the c6. So if the camaro beat the z in handling, it would also handle better than the vette. It seems your passion for the car does not let you see plain math.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by kinyu

I'm hoping your comment isnt directed toward me, as I simply provided the data.

no to everyone

[ArcAngel]

i am gonna go out on a limb and say the Maro will do better than both on the skidpad

[kinyu]

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

i am gonna go out on a limb and say the Maro will do better than both on the skidpad

That would rock. And if it doesn't, we shouldn't get our feelings hurt that our muscle car cannot handle better than a sports car. I mean, that is what its made for.

[truth411]

Originally Posted by kinyu

Please explain. The fact is the Z did better on the skidpad than the c6. So if the camaro beat the z in handling, it would also handle better than the vette. It seems your passion for the car does not let you see plain math.

Nope, your partialness towards the Z (which is a fantastic car) is useing a false definition of handeling, which is waaaaay more than math on paper. it includes weight, saloom speeds, feedback, braking (with no fade) etc.. Handleing is a total package, not some math equation. the ultimate proof is track times, which both the camaro and the vette will beat the 370Z on the track IMO, we shall see.

[truth411]

Originally Posted by kinyu

That would rock. And if it doesn't, we shouldn't get our feelings hurt that our muscle car cannot handle better than a sports car. I mean, that is what its made for.

Hey, the camaro is not some resurected muscle car, it is infact a modern 2+2 sports car. IRS, RWD, 6pd trany's etc...

[Camaroinmo]

Originally Posted by truth411

Nope, your partialness towards the Z (which is a fantastic car) is useing a false definition of handeling, which is waaaaay more than math on paper. it includes weight, saloom speeds, feedback, braking (with no fade) etc.. Handleing is a total package, not some math equation. the ultimate proof is track times, which both the camaro and the vette will beat the 370Z on the track IMO, we shall see.

That is a race I'd like to see. However, all things being equal, probably the biggest determining factor would be which track?

[kinyu]

Originally Posted by truth411

Nope, your partialness towards the Z (which is a fantastic car) is useing a false definition of handeling, which is waaaaay more than math on paper. it includes weight, saloom speeds, feedback, braking (with no fade) etc.. Handleing is a total package, not some math equation. the ultimate proof is track times, which both the camaro and the vette will beat the 370Z on the track IMO, we shall see.

I'm not partial to the Z, although I would agree with you that it's a fantastic car and is 2nd on my list of automobiles I'm considering. You're obviously partial to the Camaro, which is great, just don't let your bias make you defend a handling number that we don't even know yet.
Also, "weight, saloom speeds, feedback, braking (with no fade) etc" is nothing but math. In fact, it's like, math in the purist form.

[kinyu]

Originally Posted by truth411

Hey, the camaro is not some resurected muscle car, it is infact a modern 2+2 sports car. IRS, RWD, 6pd trany's etc...

2+2 sports car?

"sports car
n. An automobile equipped for racing, especially an aerodynamically shaped one-passenger or two-passenger vehicle having a low center of gravity and steering and suspension designed for precise control at high speeds."

But maybe I'm just a traditionalist.

[kevin2323]

or maybe you just pooped your pants and you dont know it yet