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If I were GM I would purchase about 30 minutes on a major network, and make a commercial. I would get all the "green" modes of transportation out there, and run some tests. 0-60, 1/4 mile, range, mpg, size, cost of ownership, crash test ratings.... etc. Then ask at the end of the segment, which car do you want to own? If it were me, I would make some outlandish statement that the Volt runs on chocolate syrup. Then show the guy on the Polygraph showing it is a lie.
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10-13-2010, 12:01 PM | #101 | |
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I mean sure, if the batteries were better and the gas engine was more efficient, you could supposedly use the gas engine SOLELY to recharge the batteries, but seriously how is this car still not a huge leap forward in the scope of being a totally USEABLE and PRACTICAL 0 emissions vehicle in many cases. I mean to be honest, if people are going to complain, they should complain about the fact that the thing has a gas engine at all, man. I mean seriously it would appear with today's technology, either you get a short range EV or you have a gas engine as a backup to extend the range. Maybe they should cancel the volt until we get better technology right? I mean GM totally WANTED to trick consumers into buying the Volt just so they could secretly create emmisions and then <insert conspiracy theory here>
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10-13-2010, 12:08 PM | #102 |
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I care more about how the car was designed than how an individual uses it. I could load up a bunch of stuff in the back of my car, that doesn't make it a pickup truck. And you could drive a plug in Prius solely on electricity too, that doesn't make it an EV either.
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your point is multiplied if the buyer is comparing 2 cars in the same price bracket as well such as a BMW 3 series diesel (i think the tax credit on diesel cars is around 2k). |
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10-13-2010, 12:21 PM | #104 | |
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And really, is ANY car with a gas engine an EV really? I mean if it's burning gasoling, it's not running solely on electricity, I guess it doesn't matter whether or not it is more efficient to propel the wheels directly with the gas engine versus solely using it to recharge the batteries... The car could actually be using less gas by propelling the wheels directly versus using it's energy to recharge the batteries at a sufficient rate to propel the vehicle past 70mph, but screw efficiency, it's more important to worry about semantics.
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10-13-2010, 12:25 PM | #105 | |
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Wait - are you complaining about complainers?
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10-13-2010, 12:28 PM | #106 |
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Yeah, I'm using sarcasm over the internet. A dangerous mix But yes, I think the people that are complaining about the issue are making a big deal out of a small issue.
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10-13-2010, 12:29 PM | #107 |
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For the record, I never considered it an EV. I always thought it to be a hybrid. And I believe that it is a superior hybrid system than what any other car uses. But there was some room for debate, since it could be argued that if it was always going to be driven electrically no matter what, then its an EV. But now? If the gas engine is designed to be able to directly assist in driving the car, there is no way it can be called an EV.
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10-13-2010, 12:41 PM | #108 |
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Well I could care less, however- here's a nice write up in Popular Science you might be interested in. The last word in the link pretty much sums up the review.
http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2...volt-excellent
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10-13-2010, 12:47 PM | #109 |
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Let's face it, the Volt won't be for everybody. If I have a commute of 60 miles one way where the speed limit is 65 mph and I like to go 70-85 maybe the Volt isn't the best choice for me. But if my wife (who does not hammer the throttle all the time) has a 15 mile a day round trip commute and does some errands after work some days then I think the Volt is perfect especially if it has regen braking (she can be tough on the brakes). Going back to the OP, something smells bad here, someone is trying to discredit GM, Chevrolet and the Volt.
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When I first heard that the Volt was going to be the first EV to be sold as a normal vehicle, I was thrilled. Finally, a true EV that looked and performed like a regular car. That is a HUGE accomplishment. I think many don't really realize the significance of being able to say "This car runs on 100% electricity!!!" Have you ever seen some of the solutions over the years? How about the challenges? The biggest have already been mentioned here but others such as how does the Volt produce heat or A/C for the passengers when the generator is not on? How do you run braking and steering on an electric vehicle and still make it feel like a normal car? That sort of stuff is easier to accomplish in a hybrid. It is just disappointing to find out that it is not 100% EV. "So what" say many but I guess you just won't understand where I'm coming from.
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When you have that much battery power, heat and A/C shouldn't be that much of a challenge. Electric A/C compressors have been around a while, so has electric heating, electric power steering, electric brake power assist...
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