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Old 01-12-2009, 10:33 AM   #267
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I just don’t see why the 370z is so heavy for a 2 seater. The Miata is about $2,500lbs and the engine weight can’t be more than 100-200lbs of the difference. Hell the STI, a 4 door hatchback weighs the same and goes as fast or faster after an ECU flash.
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:48 AM   #268
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I'm not a Mustang fanboy, but a 370z fanboy now.

I'm sorry though, you are just as much as a fanboy as I am.

I just did some research on the gas guzzler tax, and you are right. No tax. Sorry for the moot point.
no fanboy here, do some research and you'll see ive defended/argued for/against nearly every type of car. Ive never even owned an American car, i just happen to be a fan of most things auto.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:50 AM   #269
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I sat in the new z yesterday. Nice tight little cockpit. 3 years ago I was maxing my bench at 535 and let me tell you, that If i were still that size, 240 lbs. I wouldn't make it. Now I'm a slim 210, still the z is snug. Hoping the Camaro is considerably roomier. By the way I'm 5'8".
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:30 PM   #270
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I sat in the new z yesterday. Nice tight little cockpit. 3 years ago I was maxing my bench at 535 and let me tell you, that If i were still that size, 240 lbs. I wouldn't make it. Now I'm a slim 210, still the z is snug. Hoping the Camaro is considerably roomier. By the way I'm 5'8".
hey eric you lookin kinda small there(sarcastic remark)




now please dont beat my 6'1 200lb flabby ass up :(
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:42 AM   #271
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I saw the 370 a couple days ago, right next to the out going z, and wow it is a nice car. Smaller than you would think, 911 size.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:48 AM   #272
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Thanks. I'm not planning on buying the 1st gen, i'm going to wait at least for the 2nd.
Although, 370z should have more TQ. Do you know when the new camaro is going to be released?

Who is this? Austin Powers? Did he go back looking for his mojo?
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:22 PM   #273
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Oops I meant the 370z. If I plan on buying the 370z it would be at least a sec. gen. I am definitely going to test drive the camaro.
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This is actually the 5th generation Camaro. It's been around since 1967.

Anyways, the 2010 Camaro - the one this board is all about, will start production March 16th 2009, and should be in dealers shortly thereafter.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:24 PM   #274
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Damn that sucks!
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Did you factor in the gas guzzler tax of $1700?
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:26 PM   #275
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Why do cali put it on other cars like exotics rides?
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god when did all you mustang fanboys get so annoying?


besides im 99% sure there isnt a Gas tax on the camaro.




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Old 01-18-2009, 10:28 PM   #276
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Oh, a 370z fan here hello! Did you like the 350z?
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I'm not a Mustang fanboy, but a 370z fanboy now.

I'm sorry though, you are just as much as a fanboy as I am.

I just did some research on the gas guzzler tax, and you are right. No tax. Sorry for the moot point.
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Why do cali put it on other cars like exotics rides?
just another way of taxing the people
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:41 PM   #278
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Man I agree with you 100%. I never understood why the Z's are so heavy. It doesn't make any sense. It should be no more than 3100lbs or less. Plus, the 370z is smaller in over all size.
There were a lot of complaints over the 350 being to heavy. So, with the 370z trimmed off only about 88lbs, but with new regulations with safety and such, the 370 actually weighs more than the 350 nismo. You would think those people in japan with there so called fuel efficient cars and what not could make the cars lighter.
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I just don’t see why the 370z is so heavy for a 2 seater. The Miata is about $2,500lbs and the engine weight can’t be more than 100-200lbs of the difference. Hell the STI, a 4 door hatchback weighs the same and goes as fast or faster after an ECU flash.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:47 PM   #279
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THERE IS NO GAS GUZZLER ON THE CAMARO
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:00 PM   #280
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It's heavy because that's the plan. Japanese plan always has been to start with econoboxes then infiltrate the market up thru the Luxury and truck channels.

That's old post WWII Japense war industrial conversion thinking...

Then again... they are probably building giant Robots in tunnels off small Pacific islands too.. (lol).
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