The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by skittleoncrack

So I've been looking at specs for the new 2012 Boss 302 and I must say. I'm NOT impressed.

I know, 2 step launch control on a factory Mustang is so unimpressive.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Last time I checked, the Boss 302 did not run on E85 so your point is moot.

My car does. Is somebody cranky? :upset: I just said gas prices are going to continue to go up and you start cryin'.

[Crowley]

The HP wars are good .. LOL

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...er-future_cars

Only a month after the unveiling of the 550-plus-hp 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1, word is leaking out that Ford will substantially advance the muscle-car wars with a 2013 Shelby GT500 making a pants-bursting 600-plus horsepower.

Our well-informed sources say the stratospheric output figure, which could be as high as 620 horses, is the result of boring out the current 5.4-liter V-8 to 5.8 liters and swapping the existing Eaton M112 supercharger for the same firm’s more-efficient and quieter TVS unit. This supercharger, with its four-lobe rotors, is the blower of choice for the Audi S4, Cadillac CTS-V, Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 and, interestingly, the Camaro ZL1.

The 5.4-liter in the current GT500 makes an already pretty absurd 550 hp. The car rips to 60 mph in 4.0 seconds and through the quarter-mile in 12.4. Based solely on the horsepower increase, we estimate that the 2013 model will drop almost half a second through the quarter, for a 12.0-second run. As it is already traction limited, we don’t see the 0-to-60 number changing much. We do, however, anticipate that it’ll be a straight-up bitch to launch consistently, at least without the addition of a launch-control system. If it isn’t limited to 155 mph, as the current car is, the 2013 GT500 should be capable of topping 190 mph.

Like all 2013 Mustangs, the GT500 will sport a body altered with the goal of looking somewhat less retro and more modern and edgy, according to sources. And, yes, we do take “modern” to imply the addition of LEDs to the head- and taillight assemblies. You won’t see any of the new bodywork in the spy photos here. This powertrain mule caught today in Dearborn wears familiar bodywork (and 2011 Mustang GT headlights) but rides very low over a set of current GT500 Performance package wheels. What won’t change is the basic rear-suspension design. That’s right: This most insanely powerful of Mustangs will keep its live axle. It’ll just be a little, er, livelier.

The new model is, of course, still a long way off. Hell, the 2012 ZL1 that it’s intended to battle won’t go on sale for another 11 or so months. Expect the 2013 GT500 about 10 months after that, leaving you plenty of time to save your dollars. You’re going to need about 60,000 of them to buy one.

Crowley

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Crowley

The HP wars are good .. LOL

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...er-future_cars

Only a month after the unveiling of the 550-plus-hp 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1, word is leaking out that Ford will substantially advance the muscle-car wars with a 2013 Shelby GT500 making a pants-bursting 600-plus horsepower.

Our well-informed sources say the stratospheric output figure, which could be as high as 620 horses, is the result of boring out the current 5.4-liter V-8 to 5.8 liters and swapping the existing Eaton M112 supercharger for the same firm’s more-efficient and quieter TVS unit. This supercharger, with its four-lobe rotors, is the blower of choice for the Audi S4, Cadillac CTS-V, Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 and, interestingly, the Camaro ZL1.

The 5.4-liter in the current GT500 makes an already pretty absurd 550 hp. The car rips to 60 mph in 4.0 seconds and through the quarter-mile in 12.4. Based solely on the horsepower increase, we estimate that the 2013 model will drop almost half a second through the quarter, for a 12.0-second run. As it is already traction limited, we don’t see the 0-to-60 number changing much. We do, however, anticipate that it’ll be a straight-up bitch to launch consistently, at least without the addition of a launch-control system. If it isn’t limited to 155 mph, as the current car is, the 2013 GT500 should be capable of topping 190 mph.

Like all 2013 Mustangs, the GT500 will sport a body altered with the goal of looking somewhat less retro and more modern and edgy, according to sources. And, yes, we do take “modern” to imply the addition of LEDs to the head- and taillight assemblies. You won’t see any of the new bodywork in the spy photos here. This powertrain mule caught today in Dearborn wears familiar bodywork (and 2011 Mustang GT headlights) but rides very low over a set of current GT500 Performance package wheels. What won’t change is the basic rear-suspension design. That’s right: This most insanely powerful of Mustangs will keep its live axle. It’ll just be a little, er, livelier.

The new model is, of course, still a long way off. Hell, the 2012 ZL1 that it’s intended to battle won’t go on sale for another 11 or so months. Expect the 2013 GT500 about 10 months after that, leaving you plenty of time to save your dollars. You’re going to need about 60,000 of them to buy one.

Crowley

eh, its badass that theyre upping the base model GT500's from 550 to god-knows-what, but higher HP (up to 750hp) GT500's have been offered for a while now. i wonder if GM will be gutsy enough to match those.

[ViperTomcat]

Oh my...


*waiting for the "the ZL1 is better looking" post*

[8cd03gro]

They're boring it out to a 5.8? Jesus. That seems unnecessary considering they can already make these power figure with the supersnake on the 5.4. . . I wonder what these cars are going to do with bolt ons. One thing's for sure, with zl1 and this hitting the streets, there are going to be some monsters running around.

[porcupinekiller]

I don't see the 5.4 being enlarged. A stock 5.4 in the GT500 can easily make 620 HP to the rear wheels by bolting on a TVS and a tune.
http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...415&parent=103

[C5RocksC5]

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...er-future_cars

and so it appears we'll have 1 year maybe at the top and Ford trumps us again... :(

[Camaro_Corvette]

Not surprised.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by porcupinekiller

I don't see the 5.4 being enlarged. A stock 5.4 in the GT500 can easily make 620 HP to the rear wheels by bolting on a TVS and a tune.

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

They're boring it out to a 5.8? Jesus. That seems unnecessary considering they can already make these power figure with the supersnake on the 5.4. . . I wonder what these cars are going to do with bolt ons. One thing's for sure, with zl1 and this hitting the streets, there are going to be some monsters running around.

i agree. But you always see the oems do this kinda stuff, its like theyre trying to reinvent the wheel sometimes.

[el ess A]

Keep it going...just slap back.

[porcupinekiller]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

They're boring it out to a 5.8? Jesus. That seems unnecessary considering they can already make these power figure with the supersnake on the 5.4. . . I wonder what these cars are going to do with bolt ons. One thing's for sure, with zl1 and this hitting the streets, there are going to be some monsters running around.

There already is. There are more than a few guys running 650+ rwhp on their GT500's around here and a few blown gen5's making some very good numbers.

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by porcupinekiller

I don't see the 5.4 being enlarged. A stock 5.4 in the GT500 can easily make 620 HP to the rear wheels by bolting on a TVS and a tune.
http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...415&parent=103

It is all hearsay until the manufacturer comes out with the specs etc. I posted it because we are living in a good time in regards to horsepower and performance

Crowely

[WadeWilson]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

Not surprised.

Fully expected Ford to step up to the plate and up the HP of the GT500.