Cold Air Intake help guys. !!!

[smokay]

I been looking for many different types and sounds of CAI.
I narrowed my mind down to three CAI...

BBK Cold Air Intake
Injen Cold Air Intake
Roto-Fab Cold Air Intake

they all have really good sound, but I wanted to know what you guys think.

which one should I go for??

i need yall help.

[Mankind]

Really cant go wrong on any of those. Your choice of which according to price and your ability at installs. There is probably about 1K threads in CAI's and everyone is pleased with everything currently offered.

[heRS]

this should be a poll. OP, can you add a poll? I'd like to know which is most popular too.

[ron10]

installed the CAI,INC. on mine.was going to install new muffler system,but changed my mind because my stock system just roars now that the CAI is on.

[ROD1]

Going by the numbers, I would go Injen all over again. It is the only true cai in the bunch. The rest are short ram. I wish there was an over the radiator type but I dont think that will happen.

[BowlingSS]

I went with the CAI, Inc and an ADM scoop.

Bill

[scrming]

Originally Posted by BowlingSS

I went with the CAI, Inc and an ADM scoop.

Bill

This is the V6 section....

[Roto-fab 1]

We haven't had ours out for long (many less in the field), so a poll may be misleading. Please read the feedback of anyone that actually has ours. Also, there is no disadvantage to a short ram versus a longer tube that goes low so long as the system is effectively isolating engine compartment heat from the filter. Actually, on hot days when the pavement is hot you will have higher intake temps from a system that draws it's air from an area closer to the pavement.

As a manufacturer, we love to say we have the only good intake on the market. In reality, Camaro owners are very fortunate to have several truly good systems to choose from. Not all car models are afforded this luxury.

[LoneStar]

Originally Posted by ROD1

Going by the numbers, I would go Injen all over again. It is the only true cai in the bunch. The rest are short ram. I wish there was an over the radiator type but I dont think that will happen.

I saw an over the radiator type this past weekend at our local car meet. Granted, it is an SS but the overall design couldn't be too different.

[scrming]

Originally Posted by Roto-fab 1

We haven't had ours out for long (many less in the field), so a poll may be misleading. Please read the feedback of anyone that actually has ours. Also, there is no disadvantage to a short ram versus a longer tube that goes low so long as the system is effectively isolating engine compartment heat from the filter. Actually, on hot days when the pavement is hot you will have higher intake temps from a system that draws it's air from an area closer to the pavement.

As a manufacturer, we love to say we have the only good intake on the market. In reality, Camaro owners are very fortunate to have several truly good systems to choose from. Not all car models are afforded this luxury.

sorry but that sounds like typical FUD... do you have any evidence to back that up? While the pavement may be very hot the air is constantly circulating... unlike the hot air inside the engine bay which is going to be pretty stale compared to the air underneath the car...

This summer I actually did take some measurements of the pavement temps vs air temp vs IAT... unfortunately I didn't take very good notes.. however the data was such that I would say what you are suggesting is not accurate. Pavement was around 110 to 120 degree, IIRC, which is still quite a bit cooler than your radiator and engine...

It's currently in low to mid 20's here so I can't do much testing until next spring...

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by scrming

sorry but that sounds like typical FUD... do you have any evidence to back that up? While the pavement may be very hot the air is constantly circulating... unlike the hot air inside the engine bay which is going to be pretty stale compared to the air underneath the car...

This summer I actually did take some measurements of the pavement temps vs air temp vs IAT... unfortunately I didn't take very good notes.. however the data was such that I would say what you are suggesting is not accurate. Pavement was around 110 to 120 degree, IIRC, which is still quite a bit cooler than your radiator and engine...

It's currently in low to mid 20's here so I can't do much testing until next spring...

[Roto-fab 1]

Originally Posted by scrming

sorry but that sounds like typical FUD... do you have any evidence to back that up? While the pavement may be very hot the air is constantly circulating... unlike the hot air inside the engine bay which is going to be pretty stale compared to the air underneath the car...

This summer I actually did take some measurements of the pavement temps vs air temp vs IAT... unfortunately I didn't take very good notes.. however the data was such that I would say what you are suggesting is not accurate. Pavement was around 110 to 120 degree, IIRC, which is still quite a bit cooler than your radiator and engine...

It's currently in low to mid 20's here so I can't do much testing until next spring...

Same boat here...hope we hit the mid 20s here today! We did similar testing when developing a ram air system for the G8. We made a duct that went from the lower panel in front of the front wheel and coupled directly to the bottom of our air box. Anyway, one of the things we discovered was temperatures closer to the pavement were higher than temps farther from the pavement. Like you, I didn't keep accurate notes on this as it really wasn't what we were testing. Also, the stock intake air location isn't exactly the same with the G8 and Camaro.
To say that an intake is drawing engine air and comparing that to 120 degree pavement isn't accurate with our intake as it does not draw engine air. Our system will run IATs slightly above ambient when the car is stationary. It starts out at 2-3 above and can go as high as 8-9 degrees above ambient if it sits long enough. As soon as the car starts to move the intake temps go down immediately. At 5 MPH we run about 2 degrees above ambient. At 10 MPH we are 1-2 degrees above ambient. This testing was done on appr. 90 degree day using a thermocouple placed directly in the pleats of the air filter.
I will add that our intake temps are actually lower than the stock intake by about 8 degrees while stationary and at 5 MPH. As speed increased the differenced decreased.
Yes, I will definitely test this on a hot day just to post numbers and quantify the difference. It's simple though-the stock inlet duct of the camaro draws it's air from about 2 1/2 feet from the ground. As you move closer to the pavement the temperature will go up-no doubt about it at all. Ask the guy that received second degree burns on his hands and knees from the pavement in Phoenix last year!
Anyway, not trying to be crappy and I don't even know what the acronym "FUD" represents, but it is probably similar to BS and I try not to engage in that!
For those that aren't familiar with the stock air intake duct, it is located behind the grill on the driver's side. The air comes in the top of it and the air goes directly into our air box area. That makes our system a true cold air intake system. We draw outside air while effectively blocking engine compartment air from entering the filter.

[scrming]

Originally Posted by Roto-fab 1

Same boat here...hope we hit the mid 20s here today! We did similar testing when developing a ram air system for the G8. We made a duct that went from the lower panel in front of the front wheel and coupled directly to the bottom of our air box. Anyway, one of the things we discovered was temperatures closer to the pavement were higher than temps farther from the pavement. Like you, I didn't keep accurate notes on this as it really wasn't what we were testing. Also, the stock intake air location isn't exactly the same with the G8 and Camaro.
To say that an intake is drawing engine air and comparing that to 120 degree pavement isn't accurate with our intake as it does not draw engine air. Our system will run IATs slightly above ambient when the car is stationary. It starts out at 2-3 above and can go as high as 8-9 degrees above ambient if it sits long enough. As soon as the car starts to move the intake temps go down immediately. At 5 MPH we run about 2 degrees above ambient. At 10 MPH we are 1-2 degrees above ambient. This testing was done on appr. 90 degree day using a thermocouple placed directly in the pleats of the air filter.
I will add that our intake temps are actually lower than the stock intake by about 8 degrees while stationary and at 5 MPH. As speed increased the differenced decreased.
Yes, I will definitely test this on a hot day just to post numbers and quantify the difference. It's simple though-the stock inlet duct of the camaro draws it's air from about 2 1/2 feet from the ground. As you move closer to the pavement the temperature will go up-no doubt about it at all. Ask the guy that received second degree burns on his hands and knees from the pavement in Phoenix last year!
Anyway, not trying to be crappy and I don't even know what the acronym "FUD" represents, but it is probably similar to BS and I try not to engage in that!
For those that aren't familiar with the stock air intake duct, it is located behind the grill on the driver's side. The air comes in the top of it and the air goes directly into our air box area. That makes our system a true cold air intake system. We draw outside air while effectively blocking engine compartment air from entering the filter.

I agree the pavement can get hot... yes, I believe you can get 2nd degree burns from it... but by the same token if you touch your motor you can get burns too!

The thing about drawing air from the front grill is I believe you are going to get some warmer air off the radiator... I could be wrong as I haven't seen one in person... just going by what I'm able to see in pictures...

But at this point we'll probably have to wait until spring to discuss actual data... although I heard we may make it above freezing tomorrow! LOL!

[Roto-fab 1]

Originally Posted by scrming

I agree the pavement can get hot... yes, I believe you can get 2nd degree burns from it... but by the same token if you touch your motor you can get burns too!

The thing about drawing air from the front grill is I believe you are going to get some warmer air off the radiator... I could be wrong as I haven't seen one in person... just going by what I'm able to see in pictures...

But at this point we'll probably have to wait until spring to discuss actual data... although I heard we may make it above freezing tomorrow! LOL!

I did hear temps will get above freezing tomorrow for us too...it sounds like we enjoy similar weather! Maybe we can do a little IA testing in warm weather and compare notes.