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Bourgui · 12-01-2010, 09:30 AM

I have no idea what a keyway is, time for wikipedia I think.
Or if you know a place I can find a nice little diagram to educate myself...

xpanda305x · 12-03-2010, 08:55 AM

i am thinking of swapping my fluids on my tranny soon. amsoil??

h2oplay · 12-03-2010, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpanda305x

i am thinking of swapping my fluids on my tranny soon. amsoil??

I use it, it made a diff in my tranny.....

ckaram · 12-04-2010, 08:50 AM

So I'm one of the ones who has never experienced a grind from first to second, but it's always notchy, which means it's not "like butter" from one to two like all my other gears.

Lately, especially when cold, it was hard to put the car in first gear at a stop. I had to triple clutch it at times before it went in. I found the TSB relative to this issue and shared the issue with my dealer (TSB is referenced by me above in post #560). They told me the tranny will have to come out.

I dropped the car off and when I called later on in the day, dealer tells me they had to contact Chevy engineering who directed them to let the car sit 6 hours and then check it. They wanted it good and cold I guess. Well, sure enough, they experienced the problem. They dropped the trans and confirmed that two thirds of the pressure plate bolts were loose. They took it off and inspected the clutch for excessive damage and said there was none (I didn't think there would be). They then buttoned it up correctly per the TSB (red loctite #242).

Just thought I'd post for those with LT and SS cars built before February 2010. My dealer treated me right.

By the way, the fix has resolved my problem of not going into first gear. Still notchy of course...

CAMAR0 · 12-05-2010, 10:21 AM

Keep us posted if that solves it for good. Supposedly they did that to mine when they swapped the trans but about 3k later im having the exact same thing happen that you mentioned. What dealer did you go to?

ckaram · 12-05-2010, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAMAR0

Keep us posted if that solves it for good. Supposedly they did that to mine when they swapped the trans but about 3k later im having the exact same thing happen that you mentioned. What dealer did you go to?

Gates Chevy in South Bend. I bought it new there. Funny thing is the problem got worse after I had the dealer change the trans fluid back in October. I pressed them to make sure they put the right stuff in, and they did. Could've been a coincidence I suppose.

I have seen posts that reference "tightness" when the car is cold, which may be one of the downsides of the AY6.

Omega Man · 12-05-2010, 11:17 PM

I picked up my new 2011 2SS last Monday with only 48 km on the odometer. 500km (300 mi) later, I'm getting this grinding problem from 1st to 2nd and sometimes it's a bitch shifting into 2nd. Now I thought it was me as it's been 10+ years since I last drove a manual so I made sure I was very cognizant of the clutch. I made sure the clutch was all the way down and it still grinds regardless of the speed. It seems that the only common denominator is that it grinds when it is cold. After a couple of minutes of driving, the grinding goes away but the difficultly of shifting into 2nd still happens every now and again. Excitement turned to disappointment almost over night.

CAMAR0 · 12-07-2010, 02:29 PM

Will they care if i tighten the flywheel bolts myself? The tech busted the clip on my harness and then loosely zip tied it in place... Im guessing my level of work would be good enough!

I should be able to do this farly quickly. Whats the best way to determine the current torque on the bolts? My torque wrench is the type that snaps.. Do i need to rent a dial one? Anyone have the part number for the bolts?

ckaram · 12-07-2010, 07:14 PM

Hey CAMARO, I pm'd you.

mickss · 12-08-2010, 01:39 AM

Not sure if this was posted elsewhere.
CAMAR0; also contains torque values you inquired about.

xpanda305x · 12-10-2010, 08:53 AM

i might have to take it in. because it hard to put it into gear from 1 to 2. at times too. how long did it take to get your car back? i think i have to tighten up the bolts too!

CAMAR0 · 12-10-2010, 10:58 AM

Thanks for the info.

I just saw that indiana counts saturdays as business days. My cars at 23 days of the 30 days of service limit.

ckaram · 12-10-2010, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpanda305x

i might have to take it in. because it hard to put it into gear from 1 to 2. at times too. how long did it take to get your car back? i think i have to tighten up the bolts too!

Dropped it off Monday and picked it up Wednesday nIght.

nak3dsnake · 12-10-2010, 04:27 PM

Such a weird bell housing pattern.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckaram

So I'm one of the ones who has never experienced a grind from first to second, but it's always notchy, which means it's not "like butter" from one to two like all my other gears.

Lately, especially when cold, it was hard to put the car in first gear at a stop. I had to triple clutch it at times before it went in. I found the TSB relative to this issue and shared the issue with my dealer (TSB is referenced by me above in post #560). They told me the tranny will have to come out.

I dropped the car off and when I called later on in the day, dealer tells me they had to contact Chevy engineering who directed them to let the car sit 6 hours and then check it. They wanted it good and cold I guess. Well, sure enough, they experienced the problem. They dropped the trans and confirmed that two thirds of the pressure plate bolts were loose. They took it off and inspected the clutch for excessive damage and said there was none (I didn't think there would be). They then buttoned it up correctly per the TSB (red loctite #242).

Just thought I'd post for those with LT and SS cars built before February 2010. My dealer treated me right.

By the way, the fix has resolved my problem of not going into first gear. Still notchy of course...

View Poll Results: Shifting into 2nd gear on your V6 M6?
Periodic / Regular Grind	194	45.97%
Periodic / Regular Bind	89	21.09%
No Issue	139	32.94%
Voters: 422. You may not vote on this poll

12-04-2010, 08:50 AM	#564
ckaram Drives: 2011 2SS RS, 1968 ragtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,850	So I'm one of the ones who has never experienced a grind from first to second, but it's always notchy, which means it's not "like butter" from one to two like all my other gears. Lately, especially when cold, it was hard to put the car in first gear at a stop. I had to triple clutch it at times before it went in. I found the TSB relative to this issue and shared the issue with my dealer (TSB is referenced by me above in post #560). They told me the tranny will have to come out. I dropped the car off and when I called later on in the day, dealer tells me they had to contact Chevy engineering who directed them to let the car sit 6 hours and then check it. They wanted it good and cold I guess. Well, sure enough, they experienced the problem. They dropped the trans and confirmed that two thirds of the pressure plate bolts were loose. They took it off and inspected the clutch for excessive damage and said there was none (I didn't think there would be). They then buttoned it up correctly per the TSB (red loctite #242). Just thought I'd post for those with LT and SS cars built before February 2010. My dealer treated me right. By the way, the fix has resolved my problem of not going into first gear. Still notchy of course... __________________ 1968 Camaro Convertible LS1, T56

12-07-2010, 07:14 PM	#569
ckaram Drives: 2011 2SS RS, 1968 ragtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,850	Hey CAMARO, I pm'd you. __________________ 1968 Camaro Convertible LS1, T56

12-08-2010, 01:39 AM	#570
mickss Drives: 2010 Camaro LS-M6 67 Chevelle Wgn Join Date: May 2009 Location: . Posts: 1,509 View My Garage	Not sure if this was posted elsewhere. CAMAR0; also contains torque values you inquired about. Last edited by mickss; 04-18-2011 at 08:55 AM.

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12-01-2010, 09:30 AM	#561
Bourgui Drives: 1LT/RS, VR, GFX Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ottawa Posts: 333	I have no idea what a keyway is, time for wikipedia I think. Or if you know a place I can find a nice little diagram to educate myself...

12-03-2010, 08:55 AM	#562
xpanda305x Banned Drives: Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gunshine State Posts: 3,150 View My Garage	i am thinking of swapping my fluids on my tranny soon. amsoil??

12-05-2010, 10:21 AM	#565
CAMAR0 Loose is Fast! Drives: Mikes Hard Lemons Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brick House Posts: 645	Keep us posted if that solves it for good. Supposedly they did that to mine when they swapped the trans but about 3k later im having the exact same thing happen that you mentioned. What dealer did you go to?

12-05-2010, 11:17 PM	#567
Omega Man Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS Cyber Grey Metallic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Posts: 2	I picked up my new 2011 2SS last Monday with only 48 km on the odometer. 500km (300 mi) later, I'm getting this grinding problem from 1st to 2nd and sometimes it's a bitch shifting into 2nd. Now I thought it was me as it's been 10+ years since I last drove a manual so I made sure I was very cognizant of the clutch. I made sure the clutch was all the way down and it still grinds regardless of the speed. It seems that the only common denominator is that it grinds when it is cold. After a couple of minutes of driving, the grinding goes away but the difficultly of shifting into 2nd still happens every now and again. Excitement turned to disappointment almost over night.

12-07-2010, 02:29 PM	#568
CAMAR0 Loose is Fast! Drives: Mikes Hard Lemons Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brick House Posts: 645	Will they care if i tighten the flywheel bolts myself? The tech busted the clip on my harness and then loosely zip tied it in place... Im guessing my level of work would be good enough! I should be able to do this farly quickly. Whats the best way to determine the current torque on the bolts? My torque wrench is the type that snaps.. Do i need to rent a dial one? Anyone have the part number for the bolts?

12-10-2010, 08:53 AM	#571
xpanda305x Banned Drives: Dark Knight Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Gunshine State Posts: 3,150 View My Garage	i might have to take it in. because it hard to put it into gear from 1 to 2. at times too. how long did it take to get your car back? i think i have to tighten up the bolts too!

12-10-2010, 10:58 AM	#572
CAMAR0 Loose is Fast! Drives: Mikes Hard Lemons Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brick House Posts: 645	Thanks for the info. I just saw that indiana counts saturdays as business days. My cars at 23 days of the 30 days of service limit.