2012 Z28 to be faster on track than Corvette Grandsport and Z06 says GM Marketing VP?

[el ess A]

Originally Posted by PQ

Tell you what.

If the Z-28 is 45k or less, and can beat a Z-06 around a true road course, I'll dress like a girl and drive my car n public.

And...how is that different than your current behavior??

[truth411]

Originally Posted by Shurenuff

Everyone appreciates you sharing info, after all that's what makes this forum great. But in hindsight, it would have been best to provide a link to where you obtained this quote.

While it gives us something to talk about, the source is suspect at best. It's about the equivalent of me randomly quoting a source on our message boards.

"The Z28 will be able to out run a ZR1 on the track, while going in reverse, for a starting price of 40k. We want to produce the best performance based production car possible, regardless of screwing over our other performance brands and customers who pay a premium for those vehicles. It will also fly, be amphibious, and shoot missles." - Ed Welburn

Thats Awesome!!! will it be able to transform and help me attract hot chicks like in teh moviez too?

[WA SSRS]

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

The 'vette should have been revised/on its way out anyways. Probably better from a business standpoint to sell more Camaros than the z06's that they can still manage to sell every year.

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

Thanks for being the Nanny nay sayer...

You could suck the fun out of the entire interwebz couldn't you.....

They only sold 500+ Z-06's in 2009. I sold mine......

[Milk 1027]

Looks like I am definately trading up.

For those talking about competing with Vette sales.

Right now GM is about making money.
They make less from selling a Corvette than from selling a Camaro.
Corvette sales are already low as they are.
The current C6 is on it's way out so there will more than likely be a Corvette response within a year or two of the Z28 release.

[WA SSRS]

Originally Posted by radz28

There is at least ONE company in our Community that claims, and I believe has shown, their SS will outrun a stock Z06 at a particular track (I can only recall one, if my recollection is correct, lol). That car has more power than I'm sure Z28 would come out with (though I remember some details that might render this comment incorrect, to an extent) but has brakes and chassis upgrades that aren't totally out of this world. It's all stuff we ALL can buy here from many vendors and duplicate ourselves.

Without getting into more details, I think that it's possible, but it still doesn't add up. The price is the biggest factor - even if I bump it near $50K. And it's not that I don't believe GM could make it happen; it's just there's too much keeping them FROM making it happen. It would still be KICK A$$ to see it though. That'd shut-up the serpent drivers out there

The Camaro's did outperform the Vette's at some of the races in the mid 80's (IROC Z-28's) so it is possible, if the Z-28 is going to be on the new platform (2012?).

The 2011 verts list for $47K, so just under $50 sounds more likely $49,999.99

As far as Camaro competing with Vette sales, the Z-06 sales were almost non existent the last 2 years (about 1,100). You'd think the Z-28 could replace that niche market (Z-06) at a $50K price tag and sell more than 550 a year....you'd think

[OldJedi]

Originally Posted by radz28

There is at least ONE company in our Community that claims, and I believe has shown, their SS will outrun a stock Z06 at a particular track (I can only recall one, if my recollection is correct, lol). That car has more power than I'm sure Z28 would come out with (though I remember some details that might render this comment incorrect, to an extent) but has brakes and chassis upgrades that aren't totally out of this world. It's all stuff we ALL can buy here from many vendors and duplicate ourselves.

Without getting into more details, I think that it's possible, but it still doesn't add up. The price is the biggest factor - even if I bump it near $50K. And it's not that I don't believe GM could make it happen; it's just there's too much keeping them FROM making it happen. It would still be KICK A$$ to see it though. That'd shut-up the serpent drivers out there

The people on this forum are some of the smartest and most up to date people I know when it comes to Camaro information. If none of them found this statement from Chris Perry when he made and where he made at, then I'm not so sure how much stock I would put into the statement. Especially coming from the comment section of the article. If it is all true, then the Z28 would be more awesome than I ever hoped for, at a price below what I estimated it to come in at. Before I get my hopes up too high, I would like to get more concrete evidence that this statement was made by a sober Chris Perry. The article also states that it will be introduced at the Detroit Auto Show and that is not going to happen in 2011. Just an old man's opinion. The Pedders car can out preform a Z06 but I'm not sure it can do it for under 45K.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by OldJedi

The people on this forum are some of the smartest and most up to date people I know when it comes to Camaro information. If none of them found this statement from Chris Perry when he made and where he made at, then I'm not so sure how much stock I would put into the statement. Especially coming from the comment section of the article. If it is all true, then the Z28 would be more awesome than I ever hoped for, at a price below what I estimated it to come in at. Before I get my hopes up too high, I would like to get more concrete evidence that this statement was made by a sober Chris Perry. The article also states that it will be introduced at the Detroit Auto Show and that is not going to happen in 2011. Just an old man's opinion. The Pedders car can out preform a Z06 but I'm not sure it can do it for under 45K.

That's the car I'm talking about I think duplicating that car under that price is probably going to not happen, but Z28 GM will be investing in total powertrain and chassis upgrades, which that car doesn't totally have. OEM TR6060, rear axle, etc. I'm sure we'd see a CTS-V-spec TR6060/6L90 and upgraded axles, diff', cooling systems, the lot.

If that car can do it, I'm sure Z28 could - I don't know about at that price, though I hope I'm wrong

[HBspeed]

Sounds unbelievable, but if GM can pull off a Z-28 thats faster on a road course than a C6 Z06 WOW. Talk about the Z-28 all of a sudden being a huge deal and something exciting enough for me to register on the forum!

[Anthony @ LG Motorsports]

Originally Posted by SSmoked

ill call there bluff and say this aint gona happen.
it will A- need serious power/control to beat the z06 or B- loose some serious weight and out handle it.
even at that i highly doubt it will be anywhere near 45k.

i could be proven wrong tho and hope so.

Agree'd.

Given it is close to the same HP/weight as the CTSV coupe....it isn't going to be as fast as a Z06...might be close to a GS, but not the Z06 or ZR1.

I'll be shocked to see it under $50k

[SGOS252382]

There's no way. The Z06 Vette will have a 600+ lbs weight advantage with huge rubber on all 4 corners. A skilled driver in a Z06 Vette "should" have no trouble beating a Camaro Z28 around a track.

Just for fun, here's the top 10 stock C6 Z06 times from corvetteforum.com

1----10.981 @ 128.90--1.77---jamie furman ------'06. -----Details
2----11.138 @ 127.20--1.76---Ranger------'06. -----Details
3----11.177 @ 127.08--1.79---walterm32 -----'08-----Details
4----11.242 @ 122.38--1.68---Dr.Ron------'06. ----------Details
5----11.311 @ 122.89--1.80---BLU-BY-U------'06. -----Details ******** Top 10 avg: 11.291 @ 125.320
6----11.349 @ 124.97--1.75---zosix427-----'06. -------Details
7----11.392 @ 124.84--1.92--- C5 Frank------'06-------Details
8----11.429 @ 124.88--1.86---dgdoc------'06. -----Details
9----11.443 @ 125.93--1.95---O7zeeO6------'07----Details
10---11.458 @ 124.13--1.80--- layjzay----- '06 -------Details
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[el ess A]

Originally Posted by Anthony @ LG Motorsports

I'll be shocked to see it under $50k

If it is, I'm betting it's $49,995.95 base price.

[Sawyer]

$48,500.00 starting. JMO

[Z_Rocks]

No pricing has been announced. So, the $45K comment is out the door.

I don't see Z28 being less than $49,870. With S/C, Upgrade to engine, brakes, trany, gears, tiers, clutch, cooling system, suspension and etc. Heck, the CTS-V, configured runs around $70K.

[Callaway Chris]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

A 4000+ pound Camaro faster around a track than a much lighter car that produces 505 HP?

I severely doubt it..

Exactly! What a bunch of BS!

And the minute another Chevy is better than a Corvette... Riggght.....