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Old 03-04-2011, 10:31 AM   #127
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I'd be willing to accept 0-60mph times vs. a dyno in the interim to guage improvement. Should be easy to do and cheap.
I agree with that as well, but everyone will still want a dyno sheet in the end. Also, I'd really be interested in seeing how the A/F is affected.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:40 AM   #128
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Still don't understand why the top of the intake is open. Won't that mix in hot air from the engine no matter how strong the seal is from the hood being shut on top?
You can see that when the hood is closed it becomes the top of that intake and seals out the engine heat. The air coming up through the grill is funnelled directly into the intake. Now while I don't know how it performs, you can be confident that Vararam has done their homework, but feedback is critical and they will listen. So if there are problems, let them know.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:54 AM   #129
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I'd be willing to accept 0-60mph times vs. a dyno in the interim to guage improvement. Should be easy to do and cheap.
Ever tried to manually record ACCURATE 0-60 runs with a manual transmission?

Adding a second passenger isn't really an option, as that just makes the car slower.

If someone has a DashHawk or other device that can do this easily, PM me for an address to send it to.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:13 AM   #130
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Just thinking out loud here, but if they are still tuning/tweaking this to squeeze out every last drop of performance, why not just throw it on the dyno? How do they know if they've made any performance improvements without a dyno run?
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since we are thinking out loud here.... without a dyno, with the hood closed, they really won't know if there is a performance improvement.... We all know what happens when you start trusting butt dynos...

That being said there are probably enough people that will buy it simply because it's Vararam...
Most of the minor tweaks being done are aimed at purposely adjusting how the computer responds to the intake. The power is there, now it's about ensuring your car's computer is also happy with the way air flows in from this intake across the RPM range and in the LTFT. As Patrick put it one day, their 'tuning' the V6 with the intake design rather than changing the settings in the computer itself.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:15 AM   #131
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Awesome thx for always keeping us updated can't wait to see the end result I'll sell my injen for this badboy if gains are good enough lol
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:20 AM   #132
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when is vararam's deadline for this rnd so we can kinda have an idea of when to expect this. I have to remind myself everyday that vararam is coming for v6 for me to not jump on injen or CAI. Tax refund is almost here and im planning to transform my fat girl even tho I was not going to mod anytime soon.
Can't speak for Vararam but I can tell you that they are keeping up with this thread and are well aware of the people that are considering buying this intake vs. others. They know everyone keeps asking for dyno results and pricing and wants the intake yesterday.....
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:40 AM   #133
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I have read all the different things that can happen on a dyno with-in just one Camaro's day at the dyno. I am not sure I would say give me the dyno numbers. SCRMING proved this out when he had IVY on the dyno. Multiple runs in one day yielded multiple results.

Not even sure a 0 - 60 time would show enough of a change to convince me this is better or worse than any other CAI out there today.

Lastly, 1/4 mile times wouldn't convince me seeing how my own runs looked. Yes many of my runs were within a .1 of each other but is it worth selling what you have for a possible tenth. Guess that depends on what you want to do.

Just throwing my 2 cents into the ring.

Good luck to Vararam………I am sure it will be a hit for those who purchase this unit.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:04 PM   #134
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Wow, after reading thru the life of this thread I can't believe the number of people having digs at Vararam.

They have came up with a design they believe to work and is currently undergoing testing. I just wish other manufacturers would take the jump and design other performance upgrades for our V6's that most of us long for (Superchargers etc). Kudos to Vararam for having a go.

I use the Injen and I'm more than happy with it but if this is proven to be a better CAI then I may switch - time will tell.

Keep up the good work Vararam and also to Rolnslo who has agreed to take part in the testing.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:29 PM   #135
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I have read all the different things that can happen on a dyno with-in just one Camaro's day at the dyno. I am not sure I would say give me the dyno numbers. SCRMING proved this out when he IVY on the dyno. Multiple runs in one day yielded multiple results.

Not even sure a 0 - 60 time would show enough of a change to convince me this is better or worse than any other CAI out there today.

Lastly, 1/4 mile times wouldn't convince me seeing how my own runs looked. Yes many of my runs were within a .1 of each other but is it worth selling what you have for a possible tenth. Guess that depends on what you want to do.

Just throwing my 2 cents into the ring.

Good luck to Vararam………I am sure it will be a hit for those who purchase this unit.
to be fair.. yes, I seen a huge swing from my 1st pull to my 5th pull... but eventually the numbers stabilize and since you can swap intakes while the car is strapped down, you should be able to show consistent numbers on the dyno to evaluate the performance of an intake... It's simply a matter of doing the right number of pulls and making sure things have stabilized... Luckily I get a deal on dyno time so I can afford to do 10 pulls if need be during a dyno session...

What the wild swing shows is how easy it is to strap a car on the dyno, get a base line number, add your new part, make a few more pull, get the car warmed up and then attribute the higher numbers all to the new part... when in fact I can do the same thing without changing anything and show a big gain.

That is why i like to do all my own dyno testing...
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:53 PM   #136
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Thanks to everyone for the input and comments and especially to Shannon (Rolnslo) for letting us use his vehicle to put the finishing touches on tne V6 Camaro unit. Please be patient and we will have the unit available soon but no sooner than we can assure you that you are getting the best performing unit we can produce. We will not rush the final production just to meet a date!
We want the very first unit to be correct and perform to expectations!!! We are so very close - we want this more than you all do!!!!
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:08 PM   #137
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to be fair.. yes, I seen a huge swing from my 1st pull to my 5th pull... but eventually the numbers stabilize and since you can swap intakes while the car is strapped down, you should be able to show consistent numbers on the dyno to evaluate the performance of an intake... It's simply a matter of doing the right number of pulls and making sure things have stabilized... Luckily I get a deal on dyno time so I can afford to do 10 pulls if need be during a dyno session...

What the wild swing shows is how easy it is to strap a car on the dyno, get a base line number, add your new part, make a few more pull, get the car warmed up and then attribute the higher numbers all to the new part... when in fact I can do the same thing without changing anything and show a big gain.

That is why i like to do all my own dyno testing...

Thanks for the additional input SCRMING.



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Thanks to everyone for the input and comments and especially to Shannon (Rolnslo) for letting us use his vehicle to put the finishing touches on tne V6 Camaro unit. Please be patient and we will have the unit available soon but no sooner than we can assure you that you are getting the best performing unit we can produce. We will not rush the final production just to meet a date!
We want the very first unit to be correct and perform to expectations!!! We are so very close - we want this more than you all do!!!!
Thanks again to everyone!
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Thanks VARARAM for making it as good as you can before releasing.
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Thanks to everyone for the input and comments and especially to Shannon (Rolnslo) for letting us use his vehicle to put the finishing touches on tne V6 Camaro unit. Please be patient and we will have the unit available soon but no sooner than we can assure you that you are getting the best performing unit we can produce. We will not rush the final production just to meet a date!
We want the very first unit to be correct and perform to expectations!!! We are so very close - we want this more than you all do!!!!
Thanks again to everyone!
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I dont own any Vararam products but just from this comment and others I have seen them post I dont see anything less than the best in the future for this Intake. Now a days it is very hard to find quality in a product everyone wants to have their product out before the other person with a comparing product, and in that process quality is left out of the picture a lot of the time. Thanks for actually taking the time and dont worry about the people trying to hurry you guys because strangely those are the ones that usually dont even buy the damn thing!!!!!!
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:49 PM   #139
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Thanks to everyone for the input and comments and especially to Shannon (Rolnslo) for letting us use his vehicle to put the finishing touches on tne V6 Camaro unit. Please be patient and we will have the unit available soon but no sooner than we can assure you that you are getting the best performing unit we can produce. We will not rush the final production just to meet a date!
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Does this use an oiled filter? I was looking at one of the V8 Vararam thread, and they mentioned that version does.
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