1/4 mile time might not be as good as everyone hopes

[LSxJunkie]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

I love bench racing. Everyone forgets all sorts of factors that add up to a great et.

Gearing, 60 ft, trap, weight, and CoD. Etc.

When someone throughs the weight factor around says a car can't do something, I laugh. When someone says it's all about the trap, I laugh. Oh well love bench racing we'll see who can drive these cars after we get them. People will be amazed at some of them. I gurantee it.

You forgot the X-Factor. DA.

You want trap speed?

RoflSupras. 11.7@145, because 1100whp doesn't come with driver mod.

[MrKrisSullivan]

Hello!!!???? Ummm 13.3 sucks in the quarter... R/T Hemi Challenger's are pulling that all day long... And i've seen some 13.0's and 13.1's... Man something is seriously wrong with those times... Or something is seriously wrong with that car... Everyone here "Bench Races" on this GXP LS3 and if that 13# is correct... The Camaro isn't gonna be a whole lot better... Pull baby pull...LOL...

[Hesh]

MrKrisSullivan Hello!!!???? Ummm 13.3 sucks in the quarter... R/T Hemi Challenger's are pulling that all day long... And i've seen some 13.0's and 13.1's... Man something is seriously wrong with those times... Or something is seriously wrong with that car... Everyone here "Bench Races" on this GXP LS3 and if that 13# is correct... The Camaro isn't gonna be a whole lot better... Pull baby pull...LOL...


I think you got that way wrong. If 13.3 sucks even tho Motortrend got 13.0 with the GXP then your R/T is even worse since they got a 13.6 out of the R/T. I think you are confusing the R/T and the SRT-8, that got a 13.1, still worse than the 13.0 that the GXP got. Heres the links to look for yourself. Now I am sure there are people able to get better times themselves for both cars, but here are the numbers for both from the same source.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ons_specs.html




http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...lenger_rt.html

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t8_manual.html

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by Hesh

MrKrisSullivan Hello!!!???? Ummm 13.3 sucks in the quarter... R/T Hemi Challenger's are pulling that all day long... And i've seen some 13.0's and 13.1's... Man something is seriously wrong with those times... Or something is seriously wrong with that car... Everyone here "Bench Races" on this GXP LS3 and if that 13# is correct... The Camaro isn't gonna be a whole lot better... Pull baby pull...LOL...


I think you got that way wrong. If 13.3 sucks even tho Motortrend got 13.0 with the GXP then your R/T is even worse since they got a 13.6 out of the R/T. I think you are confusing the R/T and the SRT-8, that got a 13.1, still worse than the 13.0 that the GXP got. Heres the links to look for yourself. Now I am sure there are people able to get better times themselves for both cars, but here are the numbers for both from the same source.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ons_specs.html




http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...lenger_rt.html

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t8_manual.html

Yeah, maybe he is thinking about the SRT- 8 Challengers. In head to head testing the SRT-8 is pretty much dead even with the G8 GXP. But the Challenger R/T is actually slower than the 365hp G8 GT.

Road and Track (March 09)
Challenger SRT-8 - 13.2 @ 108 mph
Pontiac G8 GXP - 13.1 @ 109 mph

Motortend (April 08)
Challenger R/T - 14.1 @ 102 mph
Pontiac G8 GT - 13.8 @ 102 mph

These were head to head times (same day, same track).

[CDBiker220]

Why does so many ppl quote the slow 13.3 1/4...4.7 sec 0-60 times from road and track when motortrend already tested the car faster than that.

0-60 mph 4.5 sec
Quarter mile 13.0 sec @ 109.6 mph

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ons_specs.html

I have seen dyno's for the GXP it put down 369rwhp. most Vettes have been putting down 380+. I think with the 10 extra horsepower and 150lbs lighter the camaro will pull 12.8 or 12.9 in most maganize tests. probably 12.5's by an experienced driver with some drag radials.

[Hillbilly]

Lets see

What was the original question on this thread?

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by Hillbilly

Lets see

What was the original question on this thread?

Let see? No questions were asked. Just the statement that the Camaro might not be that fast because the G8 GXP only ran 13.3 in one test. He also states that other cars on the market also run 13.3 such as the Mustang GT.


So if I correctly understand what he's saying, the 422hp Camaro SS will not be any faster than the 315hp Mustang GT.
Now that's funny.

I just love it when people take the slowest time they can find for one car and compare it with the fastest times they can find from another car.

[Ject]

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

Let see? No questions were asked. Just the statement that the Camaro might not be that fast because the G8 GXP only ran 13.3 in one test. He also states that other cars on the market also run 13.3 such as the Mustang GT.


So if I correctly understand what he's saying, the 422hp Camaro SS will not be any faster than the 315hp Mustang GT.
Now that's funny.

I just love it when people take the slowest time they can find for one car and compare it with the fastest times they can find from another car.

ive seen 340 hp cars run faster than 400+ hp cars. there's more to it than just saying "well, this car has more power, so it should be faster"

[r.i.p.01slpss]

All i know is when GM was doing ring testing on the camaro they stopped taking mustangs on the runs with them because they couldn't keep up so if you think the mustang gt has a chance of standing with a v8 camaro when it has the horsepower of the v6 camaro, you're wrong. and the srt8 challenger is heavier but will still most likely prove to be close competition.

[MrKrisSullivan]

I've seen time slips man... That's why I say that... I saw a slip from a fella over on the Challenger site where he put down 13.1 with the R/T... I've seen SRT Charger time slips in the 12.8 range... All Stock...Show me a time slip for the G8... then were talking...

[Visual_Perfection]

Originally Posted by MrKrisSullivan

I've seen time slips man... That's why I say that... I saw a slip from a fella over on the Challenger site where he put down 13.1 with the R/T... I've seen SRT Charger time slips in the 12.8 range... All Stock...Show me a time slip for the G8... then were talking...

I think the point is that sure you have seen time slips of an R/T running 13.1 but that is prob. with a great driver, conditions etc.. If you compare an equal comparison, it would be the same day, the same track and the same driver. Like stated, in the magazines when they tested the G8 and the Challenger head to head on the same track the same day the G8 was quicker.. so moral of the story, based on those statistics, one could assume that whoever is driving a SHOWROOM STOCK SRT8 challenger to whatever great time they get should really be able to drive a SHOWROOM STOCK G8 GXP even quicker, same goes for the R/T and the GT.

That is kindda how I am taking all this..

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by MrKrisSullivan

I've seen time slips man... That's why I say that... I saw a slip from a fella over on the Challenger site where he put down 13.1 with the R/T... I've seen SRT Charger time slips in the 12.8 range... All Stock...Show me a time slip for the G8... then were talking...

You can't go by the fastest times produced by excellent drivers under negative Density Altitude conditions (cold air, high pressure, low altitude track, etc).

There's a guy over in the Nissan 350z forums that goes by Veetec and he has run 13.1s in his bone stock 350z. But as we know most 350z run high 13s or so (stock).

Here's a video of a couple SRT-8 Challengers having trouble running high 13s. It just shows that with average drivers under average conditions, track times aren't always the best.

[CamaroSSforme]

Originally Posted by Visual_Perfection

I think the point is that sure you have seen time slips of an R/T running 13.1 but that is prob. with a great driver, conditions etc.. If you compare an equal comparison, it would be the same day, the same track and the same driver. Like stated, in the magazines when they tested the G8 and the Challenger head to head on the same track the same day the G8 was quicker.. so moral of the story, based on those statistics, one could assume that whoever is driving a SHOWROOM STOCK SRT8 challenger to whatever great time they get should really be able to drive a SHOWROOM STOCK G8 GXP even quicker, same goes for the R/T and the GT.

That is kindda how I am taking all this..

As a motorcycle track guy or yesteryear, I also have to point out the dubious statement of "bone stock" when we are talking about people posting track slips. Unless you were there and inspected the car...checked the rear end gear, opened up that engine bay etc...you can't actually say that. And...*GASP* people lie online and cheat in real life