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PoorMansCamaro · 03-23-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade

There was a thread floating around somewhere about 6 months ago, where a v6 owner had a techie for a friend working at GM and found out that they don't give a rat's ass if the V6 engine is tuned. Because they already maxed out the performance on the stock setup, they like diablo, HP tunes, SLP believe that no one is going to come out with a tune for it anyway.

In short, they don't bother checking for it.

I'm almost 100% sure that was devildoc

Blade · 03-23-2011, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

I'm almost 100% sure that was devildoc

Thats the dude!! Where is he these days anyway!??!

PoorMansCamaro · 03-23-2011, 10:31 AM

good question. haven't heard from him in a while.

Demon Hunter · 03-23-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade

Thats the dude!! Where is he these days anyway!??!

Last I heard he was in the process of moving out here to Cali, really haven't seen much of him since then.

devildoc · 03-23-2011, 03:26 PM

Speak of the devil! lol.....yeah sorry been super busy at school. Seems radiology techs don't get a break. Yep, it was me that did that. So pretty much the dealer couldn't see the tune enable, since GM (at the time) hadn't developed any software to "see" it. The word they gave me was that since a majority of camaro owners would be the SS and since the LS engine software allows a tune to be visible, there didn't seem to be the need that V6 owners would do such a thing, lol. Along with the fact that any new engine the software to detect a tune would need to be created and then all dealerships would need updates for the tech's computer reader thingys, lol. Hope that helps!

gjarzabek009 · 03-23-2011, 03:28 PM

Does it matter what tune you do? Would a general tune be any different then one that is used to get rid of CEL? Im new to the modding world so dont hate XD

devildoc · 03-23-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gjarzabek009

Does it matter what tune you do? Would a general tune be any different then one that is used to get rid of CEL? Im new to the modding world so dont hate XD

Naw, no hating here man, I was like you several years ago and didn't knw squat! I can only speak about the Trifecta tune, which is going to work on several point issues with the cars management system. Along, with the fact that Trifecta is the only tune out there right now.

Blade · 03-23-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by devildoc

Speak of the devil! lol.....

"Ooooooh Gopher!"

KMPrenger · 03-23-2011, 04:33 PM

Well, even if it is completely true that GM never did intend to check for, nor do they still check for V6 tunes.....I'd be pretty suprised if they were not aware that some of us are doing tunes. We know there are several top Camaro team project gurus cruising these forum, so you'd think they would have seen it by now. Now whether they care to worry about it or not...who knows? (we're such a tiny fraction of the whole so far)

Maybe that is part of the reason they 'might' be planning an ECU brand change for next year? Flashes on the new computer might be more easily traceable just like the SS.

Blade · 03-23-2011, 05:44 PM

My dealer Service Manager knows I have a tune done, and he does not give a crap. In his opinion as long as it doesn't cause an issue, he couldn't care less. He also knows that the tune doesn't mess much with the ECM anyway.

devildoc · 03-23-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade

My dealer Service Manager knows I have a tune done, and he does not give a crap. In his opinion as long as it doesn't cause an issue, he couldn't care less. He also knows that the tune doesn't mess much with the ECM anyway.

Maybe that is the reason also....ECM isn't affected.

mpiper · 03-23-2011, 08:39 PM

So as long as I get a reasonable tune that doesn't impact longevity (remove all TM, change redline to 8,500, etc.) I should be good, correct?

I read somewhere there is a hidden version available from Vince (cant' find where right now). Doc, is that correct or is it just that the "norma;" tune can't be seen by the techs at GM?

devildoc · 03-24-2011, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mpiper

So as long as I get a reasonable tune that doesn't impact longevity (remove all TM, change redline to 8,500, etc.) I should be good, correct?

I read somewhere there is a hidden version available from Vince (cant' find where right now). Doc, is that correct or is it just that the "norma;" tune can't be seen by the techs at GM?

Not sure about that "ghost" tune from Vince. I have just the regular ole tune with my custom mods applied. You can always call Vince and ask as he is very friendly about answering any questions. And yes, any tune you would get from Vince is reasonable; ie - he won't recommend it if he doesn't think it is smart choice.

gjarzabek009 · 03-24-2011, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by devildoc

Not sure about that "ghost" tune from Vince. I have just the regular ole tune with my custom mods applied. You can always call Vince and ask as he is very friendly about answering any questions. And yes, any tune you would get from Vince is reasonable; ie - he won't recommend it if he doesn't think it is smart choice.

So if I were to get 3.73 gears and LT's and did the tune to get rid of the CEL and adjust the speedo it would have the same impact on my warranty as just doing the speedo? What are the chances that GM will refuse to do warranty work on my car if lets say something busts in the transmission or something happens with the engine? Would they then check if there was been a tune?

03-23-2011, 10:31 AM	#17
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 57,223	good question. haven't heard from him in a while. __________________

03-23-2011, 03:26 PM	#19
devildoc Drives: '12 Toyota Tacoma Dbl Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Beaufort, SC Posts: 1,275 View My Garage	Speak of the devil! lol.....yeah sorry been super busy at school. Seems radiology techs don't get a break. Yep, it was me that did that. So pretty much the dealer couldn't see the tune enable, since GM (at the time) hadn't developed any software to "see" it. The word they gave me was that since a majority of camaro owners would be the SS and since the LS engine software allows a tune to be visible, there didn't seem to be the need that V6 owners would do such a thing, lol. Along with the fact that any new engine the software to detect a tune would need to be created and then all dealerships would need updates for the tech's computer reader thingys, lol. Hope that helps! __________________ MRT V2\|Trifecta Tune\|Airaid\|ARH LTs\|Eibach Sways STANDING 1/4MI: 13.948@99.87 6600RPM HP/TQ Gains - 30.54HP/24.3TQ (NOT PEAK)

03-23-2011, 04:33 PM	#23
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,967	Well, even if it is completely true that GM never did intend to check for, nor do they still check for V6 tunes.....I'd be pretty suprised if they were not aware that some of us are doing tunes. We know there are several top Camaro team project gurus cruising these forum, so you'd think they would have seen it by now. Now whether they care to worry about it or not...who knows? (we're such a tiny fraction of the whole so far) Maybe that is part of the reason they 'might' be planning an ECU brand change for next year? Flashes on the new computer might be more easily traceable just like the SS. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

03-23-2011, 05:44 PM	#24
Blade Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS BVM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Charlotte Posts: 4,689 View My Garage	My dealer Service Manager knows I have a tune done, and he does not give a crap. In his opinion as long as it doesn't cause an issue, he couldn't care less. He also knows that the tune doesn't mess much with the ECM anyway. __________________ Formerly owner of: 2012 2SS/RS Build Thread - Totaled by red light runner 2010 LT/RS Build Thread - Traded in for 2012 2SS 2007 Acura TSX 1992 Oldsmobile Achieva V6 1992 Mercury Sable

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gjarzabek009 Drives: 1LT Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 954	Does it matter what tune you do? Would a general tune be any different then one that is used to get rid of CEL? Im new to the modding world so dont hate XD

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mpiper Drives: 2011 Black 1LT RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 496	So as long as I get a reasonable tune that doesn't impact longevity (remove all TM, change redline to 8,500, etc.) I should be good, correct? I read somewhere there is a hidden version available from Vince (cant' find where right now). Doc, is that correct or is it just that the "norma;" tune can't be seen by the techs at GM?