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axis · 04-05-2011, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ucantctchme

I have the vararam, while my car was being tuned I was logging temps that were 10 degrees under ambient. I attribute this to humidity and air speed combined with the location of intake opening. My tuner has tuned many camaros and found this to be remarkable. I noticed an immediate difference. I would imagine a C.a.I. Combined with a scoop would be a better comparison. My washer res. Is still intact if that counts.

It's impossilbe for your IAT's to be lower than ambient.

So what were your pre and post numbers?

csjcsj · 04-05-2011, 07:37 PM

Ucantctchme · 04-05-2011, 07:45 PM

Your iat is a thermistor, resistance varies as temperature increases or decreases. Humidity combined with air speed can cause the temp reading to go below ambient. It's very similar to the operation evaporative cooling units. This is just an explanation of what the iats were showing that day. (central Florida, mid 70's ambient). When sitting at a light the temp would be a few degrees over ambient. Be careful with the word "impossible" it might let you down one day.

Ucantctchme · 04-05-2011, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axis

It's impossilbe for your IAT's to be lower than ambient.

So what were your pre and post numbers?

Internet hero. Haha

brantley847 · 04-05-2011, 07:54 PM

Axis...you are still the best silly goose.

But everyone from Orlando is always right and f ing brilliant!....so I cannot doubt this guy

Ucantctchme · 04-05-2011, 07:56 PM

Thx.

axis · 04-05-2011, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brantley847

Axis...you are still the best silly goose.

But everyone from Orlando is always right and f ing brilliant!....so I cannot doubt this guy

With these two examples, I think term "always" in null and void.

Toyaholic · 04-05-2011, 08:42 PM

How do you accurately dyno a VaraRam? I don't think you would see a power increase from ram air using cooling fans. I'm not sure that is accurate. The fans supply the wind speed without the volume to force the air with the same pressure as moving along a track.

The VaraRam requires a break-in sequence for 100 miles for computer calibration. I have only seen tests without this break-in.

Love the look of the CAI, but VaraRam got my money.

Toyaholic · 04-05-2011, 08:48 PM

Actually, a revised version was released not too long ago. Maybe you should offer the challange again.

red&white · 04-05-2011, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pollock

Sell me your silver one and buy a black one!!

Hana. I would bro but the black one is 500 with tax and shipping. Plus. Im getting ready to port these heads next and or get a hurst short throw.

CAI Inc · 04-05-2011, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toyaholic

Actually, a revised version was released not too long ago. Maybe you should offer the challange again.

I know we have nothing to hide. If ted wants to run the test again we are down.

Ucantctchme · 04-05-2011, 09:28 PM

I think C.a.I. have numbers that may not be beaten in an "untuned" test. Their a/f numbers were good as well as their iat's. I think a controlled "track test" would be where the vararam would shine, but the adm scoop may give the advantage to the CAI. Were talking a tenth or two at best.

brantley847 · 04-05-2011, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ucantctchme

Thx.

No thanks necessary...I was complimenting myself through you and reminding Axis he is the #1 stunna silly goose.

Quote:

Originally Posted by axis

With these two examples, I think term "always" in null and void.

Ucantctchme · 04-05-2011, 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=brantley847;3059236]No thanks necessary...I was complimenting myself through you and reminding Axis he is the #1

Yeah, the thx was about the Orlando and brilliant thing. You can sit at one major intersection here in Orlando and begin to wonder why evolution hasn't thinned out our local population.
To the op, you'll be hard pressed to get unbiased info. Any of them are better than stock After all, it's just a fancy air filter.......

04-05-2011, 07:37 PM	#16
csjcsj Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS 6spd Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Jefferson, Ga Posts: 4,399 View My Garage	__________________

04-05-2011, 07:54 PM	#19
brantley847 v It bites. Drives: 2011 IBM 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,580	Axis...you are still the best silly goose. But everyone from Orlando is always right and f ing brilliant!....so I cannot doubt this guy __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Performance: 439 RWHP: 226/236 Comp Cam, Kooks 1-7/8, CAInc, Borla S type, Vmax TB, Rx Catch Can, Trans cooler, SLP 160 termo, Melling high volume, Eibach Springs/Sways 1" drop, Whiteline complete bushing kit.

04-05-2011, 08:42 PM	#22
Toyaholic It's a sickness! Drives: '69 442 Vert Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,319	How do you accurately dyno a VaraRam? I don't think you would see a power increase from ram air using cooling fans. I'm not sure that is accurate. The fans supply the wind speed without the volume to force the air with the same pressure as moving along a track. The VaraRam requires a break-in sequence for 100 miles for computer calibration. I have only seen tests without this break-in. Love the look of the CAI, but VaraRam got my money. __________________

04-05-2011, 08:48 PM	#23
Toyaholic It's a sickness! Drives: '69 442 Vert Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,319	Actually, a revised version was released not too long ago. Maybe you should offer the challange again. __________________

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04-05-2011, 07:45 PM	#17
Ucantctchme Drives: 2010 ss. 1990 RS the faster one. Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orlando Posts: 549	Your iat is a thermistor, resistance varies as temperature increases or decreases. Humidity combined with air speed can cause the temp reading to go below ambient. It's very similar to the operation evaporative cooling units. This is just an explanation of what the iats were showing that day. (central Florida, mid 70's ambient). When sitting at a light the temp would be a few degrees over ambient. Be careful with the word "impossible" it might let you down one day.

04-05-2011, 07:56 PM	#20
Ucantctchme Drives: 2010 ss. 1990 RS the faster one. Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orlando Posts: 549	Thx.

04-05-2011, 09:28 PM	#26
Ucantctchme Drives: 2010 ss. 1990 RS the faster one. Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orlando Posts: 549	I think C.a.I. have numbers that may not be beaten in an "untuned" test. Their a/f numbers were good as well as their iat's. I think a controlled "track test" would be where the vararam would shine, but the adm scoop may give the advantage to the CAI. Were talking a tenth or two at best.

04-05-2011, 09:50 PM	#28
Ucantctchme Drives: 2010 ss. 1990 RS the faster one. Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orlando Posts: 549	[QUOTE=brantley847;3059236]No thanks necessary...I was complimenting myself through you and reminding Axis he is the #1 Yeah, the thx was about the Orlando and brilliant thing. You can sit at one major intersection here in Orlando and begin to wonder why evolution hasn't thinned out our local population. To the op, you'll be hard pressed to get unbiased info. Any of them are better than stock After all, it's just a fancy air filter.......