45th Anniversary Edition 2012 Camaro and New 3.6L LFX V6 Engine

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

It looks like they fixed the missing dashboard ABL by removing it from the doors so it matches the dash, not the other way around like we asked.

ABL? Do you mean the lighting in the doors? I hope not!

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Originally Posted by Libertyforall1776

But WHY would anyone need to look *down*? They don't have to in the CTS, and the Camaro should be no different -- popup works for me for a touchscreen:
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Agreed. People still have to look down at the regular radio, for example, to select songs off their iPod. Also, navigation is offered on nearly every other GM model as does its competition. So, are you implying you want the other models to be less safe? I don't think so in the least. The lack of navigation is frankly the only thing I'm amazed to not see as an option yet.

[efpardo]

I like it but I love mine.

[Z28RockStar]

Will you guys still love me if I buy a 1st gen?

[Z28RockStar]

Originally Posted by havocnmayhem2005

So anyone who caught my post back towards the end of page 9, I got a little upset for no reason, saying BS that I was going to go buy a Mustang etc. After looking through pics of the 2012 Mustang and this Camaro, I got to say damn, the Camaro looks like 10 times better to me. I mean anyone who actually says the Mustang is not a good looking car and a damn fine performer needs to be woke up , but the camaro looks way better and I am just such a Big fan of Camaros through and through so I will be getting one, and if my M6 tranny screws up on me, I'll get it replaced over and over and over again if I have to, just so I can have the car that I know in my heart that I want the most.

OMG i HATE HATE HATE Mustanks, ok ok jokes not really, though I admit the rivalry is fun and I ham it up.

GO GO CAMARO! <3

[LOCKENESS-MONSTA]

That is sweet looking, only thing i dont like is the stripe but it will probably grow on me. It reminds me of like the pace car it has sertain stuff that make it different then the others yet more colectable.

[snkeyes069]

Originally Posted by Devon

I've seen a lot of people commenting that they want a NAV option as well. Really?? Why? With navigation available in everyone's smart phones, OnStar, and yes even available in "GASP!" street signs, why wound anyone in their right mind think a NAV screen would be a good fit for what is essentially a beast of a sports coupe that is designed to be just civil enough of daily driving? And I see that some of these same people are the ones bitching about the car already being too heavy. The power passenger seat falls into the same category as well I suppose

I prefer a screen based GPS over OnStar mainly because of the detail a map can show. Telling me distance in feet to my turn is far less informative than having a map that mirrors the streets I'm seeing. I guess I just prefer the visual cues.

Also, using the windshield mount and plugging in power to a phone/GPS is tedious. I always expect to be the victim of a smash & grab, so every time I park I stow my electronics. And in-dash nav would eliminate this tedium.

As for the dangers associated with looking down at a NAV screen, I do see fbodfather's concern. I think the popup NAV in the CTS is one solution (perhaps where the center speaker grill is?). Another very high-tech option could be to use a color HUD and project a simplified map on the windshield. Not oversimplified as OnStar does now, but maybe a basic streets view in red and the route/speedometer in blue. Again, I just feel a map view is inherently better.

Devon, we've had street signs for a few years now. Their clarity and ease of use are major reason why GPS and NAV are so popular.

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by liquidsmoke

It bothers me, and actually kind of bothered me when i first heard of the Disciples, because who are they really anyway and how can chevy think they can just grab some guys who love what you do already and call this listening to there customers. No way this group fully represents the camaro customer base. They dont represent me.
Not to bash those guys or anything, prob a great group of people, but to say you listen to a small group of people and equate that to listening to your customer base is just wrong to put it lightly.

Gee i wonder how i could get accurate feedback from my real customers?
Its not that hard, but for some reason most companies struggle with this simple task. In this day and age, its easier than ever to reach out to your customer base but yet last i checked no one is really doing that in a meaningful way.

Sure this site is a great resource for chevy, but even this site (as large as it is) is not an accurate representation of the customer base, so how can a small group of "Disciples" be.

If i were GM, i would use Onstar to initiate a direct one to one relationship with my customers. They could have onstar reps ask you if you wanted to take a short survey about your experience with a new car say 6months to a year after you purchase it. And also let it be known that you can call up onstar any time and give your feedback.
Who else in the auto industry could pull this off as easily with existing tech? No one. So why isnt GM doing this already?

good points and bad points
but I'll reserve my comments

[RedJewel2011]

Originally Posted by Travis64

hmmm just got my v6 3 days ago =(

Hey Enjoy it man!

[lets_go_bills]

This is just awesome. I love it.

[Sevn86]

Im so glad they listened to the complaints about the passenger seat issue. Looks like I might be getting into a camaro again. I wonder what the pricing will be. Hopefully its reasonable and not out of my price range. So does the 2012 model year still come with the ABL door lighting?

[Z/28orSs]

Originally Posted by Sevn86

Im so glad they listened to the complaints about the passenger seat issue. Looks like I might be getting into a camaro again. I wonder what the pricing will be. Hopefully its reasonable and not out of my price range. So does the 2012 model year still come with the ABL door lighting?

thats what kept you out of a camaro ? i could see if you didnt like the car but the pass. seat ??

also again with the navi

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by Libertyforall1776

But WHY would anyone need to look *down*? They don't have to in the CTS, and the Camaro should be no different -- popup works for me for a touchscreen (a little bigger screen might be nice, though):

If one were to remove the IP panel -- you would find that there is zero space to put in a 'pop-up' Nav Screen.

[live2drive]

[QUOTE=Libertyforall1776;3093614]But WHY would anyone need to look *down*? They don't have to in the CTS, and the Camaro should be no different -- popup works for me for a touchscreen (a little bigger screen might be nice, though):



I have test driven the CTS Coupe and the navigation screen is very easy to see and use. This type of system should easily fit into a reconfigured Camaro dash. However the navigation option, which includes a 40GB hard drive among other goodies, costs over $2,100 (comes standard in the "Premium" trim).

A decision was probably made to keeps costs low, which is why the Camaro interior is rather "light" on technology when compared to other vehicles in the $25,000-$35,000 price range.